SwampEm

I wonder how many general admission seats they still really need to sell? It must be a fairly large number if they are still sending out emails. It's a good thing they removed all of those UL end zone seats.

All Under Armour did was rip off The Charm City Roller Girls helmets.

We're not going to trot out the DC flag? Maybe with "taxation without representation" down the side of the pants?

They could also change the helmets to this logo.

Then you have no respect for math, or money...

Someone who has 4 tickets, thats $316 dollars across the entire season. Also, you save tax, which is an attitional $31.60

Now, i would argue that if 316 is going to make/break your financial situation, then you probably shouldn't be spending so much money on something like season tickets... but i'm not going to scoff at the idea of my season tickets being $352.60 cheaper....

TSHILE-

I am not discounting $352.60. I would to love have an extra $352.60 laying around.

There is however a little thing called profit maximization. One would have to assume that somebody who is enticed by the 10% reduction in prices is going to spend zero to minimal money in the stadium since that extra $7.90 per ticket was keeping them away from the game in the first place. I would also go under the assumption that these people would also look to hitch a ride with a parking pass holder or take the metro as well because their $352.60 savings would be reduced to $2.60 if they bought a parking pass. Then you would have to take into account if this would cause more than a 11.1111% increase in demand for tickets since money is effectively lost on the other tickets being sold at $71.10 vs $79.

I highly doubt that they would garner a 11.1111% increase in demand to create a greater profit.

Not in the long run. Price slashing would be like admitting defeat, unlike seat removal which can be spun as a fan improvement.

It sounds twisted, but I get their logic behind not lowering prices when you look at the big picture, not just the here and now.

They could do a section or two that is family friendly. No beer men, half price tickets for kids (future STH's), and some sort of mascot.

he could lower tickets 10 cents on the dollar, sell more of them, and make off 24 cents on the dollar richer.

10% total cut for GA tickets, but with a sell out... when you factor in concessions, merchandise, and parking (which wouldn't be cut), he'd probably come out ahead...

I really don't think lowering a $79 UL ticket to $71.10 is going to make a lot of difference.

So if the owner has the option that you describe, doesn't that mean that its "up to the owner?"

You have to think that some analysis went into the removal of the upper level end zone and in the end, Snyder decided it was in the better interest to rip the seats out rather than continue to purchase the unsold ones.

According to PFT the team would have to pay 34 cents on the dollar for the tickets to avoid a blackout. Here is more.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/14/blackout-loophole-could-give-union-some-labor-leverage/

In recent years I estimated 10-15,000 vacancies in the 400 level. At least 8,000 seats have been removed from last year.

By 'vacancies' I'm referring to seats unassigned to STHs. Most of the 400 level was occupied for the Dallas game last year, but they certainly weren't all STHs.

We're still reading of people getting offers to buy up to 8 seats for this season, even though the team said there would be no new ST offers back in July. I think it's safe to assume there are another five to ten thousand vacancies up there in the 400s.

I'm less worried about blackouts than ever before. My theory about the 'actual number of seats sold not mattering toward a blackout in todays climate' is looking better all the time. I firmly believe the choice to blackout is solely up to the host teams owner.

It is not up to the owner. The owner does have the option of "buying" the seats at a discounted price (I assume the " league split" portion of the tickets), and then they can give them away to charity.

Another pick a seat day. This time its for the 400 level. Free jerseys and star player autographs if you buy 4 seats or more.

From the TO's email today...

Still thinking about Redskins Season Tickets? Now is your chance to see them before you buy them!

As an eligible member of the Washington Redskins Wait List, you are cordially invited to come out to FedExField for an exclusive opportunity to select your seat location for the 2011 season.

Prices start at just $640** per season ticket package and are sold on a first-come, first-serve basis.

Simply reply to this email to secure your opportunity to select your seats at FedExField!

You must bring this invitation to the event in order to select your seats.

Account Name: XXXXX XXXXXXXX

Account Number: XXXXXX

Seats are available in the Upper Level sections of the stadium. Inside-the-Beltway Parking is also available! Purchase and receive a complimentary Redskins Replica Jersey.*** Choose from Chris Cooley, DeAngelo Hall, and Brian Orakpo. Purchase 4 or more tickets and your Jersey will be AUTOGRAPHED!

Place: FedExField (Suite Entrance at NRG Gate A)

When: Sunday, August 7th

Time: 2:00 p.m. until 4:00 p.m.

Parking: Free parking available in Lot H across from the Hall of Fame Store

If you cannot attend the event, or would like to purchase seats before the event,

please call the Redskins at 301-276-6033.

I wonder how many UL seat they still have to sell? I wonder if all those folks that "upgraded" to a plasma TV might be getting worried about a blackout.

I joined the waitlist in 2008 and this arrived in my inbox today.

Dear ****** **********,

GREAT NEWS! Now that the NFL and Players Union have reached a settlement, the Redskins 2011 season will be played in its entirety as originally scheduled and you are now eligible to purchase 2011 season tickets! Join the Redskins loyal and passionate season ticket fan base and keep seats in your family for generations. Nothing beats the excitement of Redskins football action live at FedExField. Be here for all the action as your Redskins take on their NFC East rivals New York Giants, Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles. Don’t miss other exciting matchups against the New York Jets, New England Patriots, and Minnesota Vikings. For your convenience:

Great seating locations start at just $64 per game*

Inside-the-Beltway parking

3-month, interest-free payment plan

And much, much, more...

Purchase by August 12th and receive a complimentary Redskins Replica Jersey.** Choose from Chris Cooley, DeAngelo Hall, and Brian Orakpo. Purchase 4 or more tickets and your Jersey will be AUTOGRAPHED!

To reserve your seats today, call the Redskins at 301-276-6033. Or to place your down payment of $100 per seat, visit www.redskins.com/seasontickets.

I wish I could get a free jersey for paying on time......

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I wonder how many more tickets they need to sell?

Nothing is really "sold-out" anywhere. You can call a Marriott Hotel and get a room even if there is "no vacancy " if you are a platinum member (75+ nights stayed per year), Derek Jeter can probably eat at any restaurant in New York without reservations. There are seats for every NFL team laying around somewhere. They may be scattered single seats, player returns, OV etc, but they are around. Be persistent and something will turn up.

I've had two uppers the past 4 years but haven't renewed as of yet for a few reasons (lack of

$, CBA, moved further away from DC area) but have been thinking of

Calling the ticket office to renew the past few days. Would I be able

To get tickets still?

I bet they can find a few for you. they may have to sacrifice a few "player returns" in the UL corners, but they may swing it.

I was just able to add additional seats in section 231 to go along with my seats in 224. Anyone else get an offer?

Did you get a email or was it in your account manager? I checked both and got nothing.

why should they?

they shouldn't.

but thats the way the TO has worked in the past. the idea that there were real benefits/punishments to those who followed the rules/didn't follow the rules is about as mythical as the wait list. in the past it actually came down to how far you were willing to go in waiting, and you'd actually get stuff (parking upgrade/other event tickets/not paying for preseason games/seat upgrade/etc) for not following the rules.

I don't know of anybody who has gotten away with not having to pay for preseason games.

I wonder what they are going to do for long time STH's who didn't pay a penny because of the lockout. Do you think they are going to start them up at the top again?

Just out of curiosity did they move anybody up higher in a row but closer to the 50? A move from something like a Section 422 row 4 to a Section 401 row 8 would be a gigantic upgrade in my opinion.

Can anyone tell me how many rows are in the 400 section? I want to see how far I am from the top of the stadium.

There are 29 rows. I started in row 28, moved to row 18, then row 10 in 422. This year I got upgraded to the LL section 112.

I'm guessing I should know either this week or next because after next they start sending the tickets out correct?

Tickets are usually sent out in late July.

The practice of teams charging for preseason games is not new. Check out this case from 1974 http://openjurist.org/495/f2d/1286/coniglio-v-highwood-services-inc . It appears that even then 16 of the 26 teams in the league did require that you buy preseason tickets then. The Redskins were never mentioned in this case so I guess that it is safe to say in 1974 The Redskins did not require STH's to buy preseason tickets.

http://openjurist.org/495/f2d/1286/coniglio-v-highwood-services-inc

It's accurate, back in the old days pre-season games were an optional purchase.

When was the last year that this was an option? I don't doubt that it was optional at some point but I highly doubt it was in the last 25 years.

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The other very significant change for the season ticket holder was to force us to purchase the pre-season games. That used to be optional. Again, not trying to blame Dan Snyder, or trying to make it seem like the Redskins are doing something that other teams don't.

When was this an option? Who in their right mind would pay more than 20% of face value to watch that garbage unless it was forced upon them? As far as I know it is a requirement of every team in the league.

My problem with the PG County tax being pulled out was it was a way to raise ticket prices 10% and just say "hey it's not the Redskins it's the PG county tax". Why didn't they just do as they had in the past and have the face of the ticket $110 and keep the tax part of the face cost of the ticket? Just seems like a sneaky way to increase their revenue by an additional 10% and try to deflect criticism.

I don't ever recall seeing the PG County tax listed on sporting events elsewhere in the County. When you buy Terps, or BaySox tickets are you paying this tax as well?

Reading through some of these posts alll I can think to myself is,

People that have a problem with the ticket being printed with the price and without taxes and fees

must need peeled off the ceiling each month when they open their cell phone bill.

They probably complain about it because they may think it's awkward to charge a friend $110 for a $99 face value ticket. A very short explanation to the friend usually solves the problem. The same thing happens when you buy tickets for anything through Ticketmaster though. TM list their BS fee on the ticket but it does not include delivery fee which can be expensive in relation to the ticket if you are only buying two tickets to an event.

Hmm. Good to know. Thanks. $60...my how times have changed!

According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics $60 in 1997 is worth $84.47 today. The price of the tickets has exceeded inflation since the stadium opened.

http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm