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On 1/4/2019 at 10:59 AM, Coach Janky Spanky said:

 

How is that going to happen?!?  What pricing and what restrictions?  There aren't enough Redskins fans attending games to fill the lower bowl.  I wish people would start to understand that.  

Offer a deep discount to a non-transferable e-ticket that requires a drivers license to get in.  They did this with the U2 concert for the floor a few years ago and it worked fine. It would be hard to make every ticket non-transferable but lets say that at least one ticket per pair was non-transferible . that way STH's who attend every game can take friends as they like in the other seat. 

They should also close the upper deck completely for a few years, whcih would make tickets hard to get once again, and that would draw more fans because fo the scarcity. Ownership is obviously in it for the long play, and while having the upper deck open may get short returns for big matchups, the better money would be to solidly the STH fanbase downstairs once again. 

2 hours ago, Coach Janky Spanky said:

Got an email this morning about Single Game Tickets.   A LOT of tickets are available.  

There are thousands of unsold tickets. I went on Ticketmaster to other stadiums for comparison. Blue dots represent seats sold by the team, and pink dots are sold by resellers on ticketmaster.  Pretty much both 100 level endzones and most of the upper deck sections have a ton of seats available all blue.  Almost every team had some tickets available(Blue dots) but we had the most that I saw. 

I wonder how many season ticket holders there actually are? Most people have either 2, or 4 seats, and other people/companies have many more than that. A lot of the seats are not sold out for the season regardless of what the team tells you. The team sells them on stubhub, or creates occasional groupon promotions. If i had to guess there only about 12-20,000 idiots like me that actually buy season tickets at this point. 

How many upper deck seats are left?

I think it would be cool if they just took all of them out. It would also make going to a game a big deal again since it would become a tough ticket just based on scarcity even if their record is poor. 

Where did you get your tracking number?

Is anybody else having trouble logging into their season ticket account today? 

I wonder if parking will be upgraded in the same manner?

The Skins have acknowledged printing Robert Helu in error...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/redskins-season-tickets-identify-roy-helu-as-robert/2012/08/01/gJQAmltWPX_blog.html

It was a mistake and we’re sorry it happened,” Tony Wyllie responded when asked by Dan about the error.

What about London "#58" Fletcher?

Has anybody called to see when ST's will arrive? I have a feeling that it will be late this year since our first home game isn't until 8/25.

Crazy Levi thinks Snyder is a tool. Sonny and Sam is an avowed Snyder Apologist. We get it.

According to this survey by ESPN The Redskins ranked 112 out of 122 major league sports teams in the nation in giving back to the fans in exchange for all the time, money and emotion the fans invest in them. The categories are Bang For The Buck, Fan Relations, Ownership, Affordability, Stadium Experience, Players, Coaching and Title Track.

Whether you love Snyder or not, this is unacceptable.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings/_/category/stx

These polls are always BS. The Giants will probably go up a few notches from #90 after winning the Super Bowl. The 49er's, and Dodgers have really low rankings too. I wonder how theory would rank if the poll was conducted last week?

They should give all paid STH's mystery bag of crap from all of the Reebok stuff that they still have lying around in the team stores after the Nike changeover in April. I am not an accountant but I'm sure that they could write down the full price that they paid and chalk it up as a promotion. This would be a win-win for everybody.

Just got a new ST offer in the regular mail. This year it looks the complimentary tickets to the FedEx (non Redskins) event of your choice are guaranteed to be the event you choose as a first year STH. Current STHs who renew on time were are only promised free tix to an event 'upon availability' thus most people got stuck with concerts last year.

I have four season tickets. My wife just got "the lucky letter" from the TO yesterday saying that she can now get tickets too. They offered her a choice of college games, or a Kenny Chesney concert as well. I didn't get any of that. I just got a bill in the mail for $4381.00. The only thing that I want is green parking passes (which I am willing to pay for), and they won't even give me that. I might actually be done with this BS.

Are they really going to find people to pay $80K for those PSLs?!? That's amazing.

Didn't the Raiders have a bad experience with PSL's already in the Bay area? I know that Oakland, and the rest of the Bay area have two different economic bases, but WOW.

I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure.

True, the Caps couldn't sell out a high school rink 5 years ago when they were awful, and now they're the hottest ticket in town. But their arena is also 1/4 the capacity of FedEx Field, the in-game experience is a lot better and more family friendly (they can do more entertainment and games that wouldn't be practical in a huge football stadium, plus fewer drunks because people don't tailgate), and it doesn't take all day to attend a Caps game.

Even when the Redskins start winning again, there will still be a large segment of the fanbase that simply will prefer to watch most games in their 75 degree home or at the neighborhood bar, where the beer is cheaper, the food is better, you don't have to pay $35 to park and fight traffic, and you can watch every play on a 60 inch HD screen.

If the Skins ever put a run together like the Pats or Green Bay, I think the best you'll see is a secondary market that sets most games at face value for the uppers and slightly higher for lowers (with price bumps for the premium games). Of course the minute demand picks up, I could see Danny raising ticket prices, which the secondary market would probably not be willing to cover.

A few things have to happen for the demand to come back.

1. The OV seats have to be removed. This will create even more of a premium on LL seats, and will also help fill the UL with budget conscious fans that would normally sit in the OV's.

2. A portion of the UL needs to get gimmicky to draw families. Have one end zone be alcohol free, AYCE, etc.

3. Most importantly they need to win. No team with a track record like ours draws well unless it is the first year of a new stadium.

I will never give my tickets up.

Eight times a year I get to hang out with my friends from college in the green lot for four hours and have fun. That is just a important as the games to me. If I gave up my season tickets it would be easy to say that I am not going to go if the weather was bad, or if the team was down. Yes it's a long day, and yes it is frustrating when they can't even get to 500 at home, but there is so much more than going to football games than the game.

i bought loge seats on stubhub this morning 4 tickets were 194.00 total

I hate this. It is obviously the TO that is selling these tickets as well as others seats around the stadium. It is a slap in the face to people that paid full price.

The Redskins TO is more than likely listing the SRO's on stubhub. There is no reason to take that big of a loss on a regular season game otherwise. For the Skins its free money that waters down all of the other tickets.

I have had tickets since 2002, and have missed 0 reguar season games. The sick part is, in that time I have missed only 2 preseason games - the 2010 preseason awaiting the birth of my daughter. Yup, I am that crazy a-hole who left his wife at home alone with a 3 week old (through 4 month old) to keep my reg season streak alive! And God love her, she was cool with it!

Nice work!

I have had tickets since 2001. I have been to all but two regular season games. In the same time frame I have attended one preseason game.

I think it would help quite a bit if they got rid of the OV seats. They cause quite a bit of confusion on the secondary market and they cheapen the price of the gameday experience. They should reduce the cost of the UL corners and endzone to offset some of this. The result would be no OV seats, and people that want a more affordable gameday experience can obtain it. It would also help to uncrowd the LL, and fill up the UL.

I stumbled across this WaPo article from Michael Wilbon in 1997. One of the things he mentions is that no seat has a OV.

JKC Stadium: Sites, Seats to Behold

By Michael Wilbon

Washington Post Columnist

Wednesday, August 20, 1997; Page D01

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Let's start with the good news from yesterday's tour of the new Jack Kent Cooke Stadium: The inside is fabulous. It's hard to imagine that even the pickiest person on Earth could walk in and see fit to change much of anything.

The bad news: The first person to be tossed into one of the temporary jail cells in the bowels of the new stadium if he assaults anybody else will be Michael Westbrook. His punchout of Stephen Davis is the first real downer of what otherwise has been a productive and optimistic preseason. This is supposed to be one of the cornerstones of your franchise? A guy who attacks a teammate in an open practice, infuriating virtually everybody in the organization? The club's patience with Westbrook is running very short, and it should be.

Fortunately for the team, the first half of the day was spent reveling in a media tour of the new stadium, the good feeling from which obviously will be around a lot longer than the bad taste left by Westbrook's assault.

And the high over the stadium's impending completion is understandable, even if getting it ready on time is going to be a 24-hour-a-day job between now and Sept. 14.

The sightlines, from the seats close to the field, to the Bob Uecker seats up top, to the seats deep in the corners of the end zones, are probably the best you'll find in the NFL. The end zone seats are just as close to the field as they were in cozy RFK Stadium and the sideline seats are so right on top of the benches, you'll probably feel like you can reach right down and lift the headset off Norv Turner's ears. More than 95 percent of the seats are in open air (meaning, bring a cap for sun and rain) but there's no such thing as an obstructed view. It's more intimate than Giants Stadium, closer than Arrowhead, and just short of peerless Ericsson Stadium in Charlotte.

The seats themselves are plenty large, big enough that I could flop my 6-foot-3, 230-pound (okay, 240-pound) frame down and sit comfortably without my knees hitting the seats in front of me or my thighs hitting the seat next to me. Anybody shorter than 6 feet and under 200 pounds should feel like he or she is sitting in a love seat, relative to other stadium seats across America.

The audio system, even with only a few speakers functioning yesterday, put forth sound so full and clear it was like listening to a really high-end home system. There's a mammoth video screen not at one end, but both ends of the stadium, and not way up on the roof like at Giants Stadium and Veterans Stadium, but right on the first concourse. And the concourses themselves are wider than the ones in Miami's Joe Robbie Stadium (now Pro Player Park), with tons of room in the corners of the stadium that may be utilized as public areas at a later date. There seems to be a bathroom about 10 steps from every seat on every level and for a change, women should never have to wait in line.

The people who purchased seats on the club level are in stadium heaven. Not all of the chairs are five inches wider than the rest of the chairs in the main seating areas, as advertised, but folks in those 15,000 premium seats get their own parking just steps from the front door, their own brew pub, three of their own restaurants, their own lounge areas and TV monitors equipped with DirecTV's NFL Sunday Ticket, and arguably the best sightlines in all of pro football, if you like to be just high enough to see the entire field and formations.

The only thing that warrants criticism is the metal window frames that are a total nuisance in the sky suites and (ahhhem, the press box). It's a sensitive situation because Jack Kent Cooke dearly loved luxury boxes with windows that opened so suite holders could soak in the atmosphere and contribute to it. And while you can hear the roar of the crowd if you're sitting in the middle of a $150,000 suite, you can't see the 40-yard line because of some aluminum window frame. That, I think, isn't going to fly with the high rollers. Some Redskins officials already have noted John Cooke's annoyance and expect frameless, albeit unopenable, windows to be installed after this season.

I've been to every NFL stadium in the league multiple times and I can say with absolutely no reservation that the interior of JKC Stadium is right there with those of Ericsson Stadium, Texas Stadium and Giants Stadium as being as good as it's going to get for viewing pleasure and amenities.

But I can't say the same thing about the exterior.

On the outside, the stadium looks like a building that was constructed in 18 months. It's an observation more than a criticism because who can blame a man for wanting to see his dream house finished before he dies?

Still, the result -- with cleanup and unfinished landscaping figuring to enhance everything -- is a stadium that is the football equivalent of Camden Yards on the inside and the unimaginative new Comiskey Park on the outside. You stand in front of JKC Stadium and you see far too many exposed water pipes and the like. I'm no architecture student, but I expected -- perhaps unfairly -- some kind of dramatic facade like the one on Ericsson, and there is none. All you see is white railings that go on and on, and something on the front that looks like the white siding you'd use to build a tool shed.

But hey, wouldn't you live in the Taj Mahal even if it looked like Boston Garden on the outside?

The legitimate concern isn't the exterior, but the traffic flow, the parking, the access to the place. You look at the building, and it's not difficult to imagine all the critical parts to it being finished in time for the opener. But the roads? Maryland state authorities swear the road construction is "on time." My question is, "On time for what?" With only 25 days to showtime, I made three turns leading to dead ends before deciding to follow a dump truck to the stadium.

Driving and parking on game days is going to be trouble, at least for the immediate future. RFK, along with Soldier Field, The Vet, the Metrodome and Arrowhead, have been among the easiest stadiums in the league to access. JKC may well join Texas Stadium, Rich Stadium in Buffalo and Foxboro Stadium in New England as the toughest. Go early. Very early. And be prepared to shuttle from somewhere.

But even if you get stuck in traffic and have to walk too far from the parking lot, your anxiety should be calmed for the rest of Sunday afternoon by a well-designed, well-executed ballfield that appears to be as comfortable and as inviting as any in the NFL.

© Copyright 1997 The Washington Post Company

So a mere $25 (after fees) will get you the same club level some of our STHs are paying $500 a game to enjoy.

Zone A clubs at the advertised rate break down to about $500 per seat, per game, when you balance all of the expenses.

Wouldn't be surprised to learn those SRO tix on SH are coming from the TO.

This is total BS. I have 4 LL tickets. I spend $871.20 just on tickets for preseason games that I don't even go to.

This could turn into a PR nightmare.

There are 24 tickets together in row 26 of section 430 going for $22 a piece. There is a 99.999999999999% chance that these tickets are being sold by the TO through stubhub.

If somebody bought these tickets and are reselling them they would be taking it in the shorts for over $1000 in this game even if they were lucky enough to sell all 24. As a matter of fact the seller of these 24 seats together has up to 24 seats together for every game except for Philly, and Dallas all below face value.

they need to get rid of the OV seats. It creates a soft market for the other tickets.

Good luck selling at "face value" since there are thousands under face value on StubHub. I dont think that I have ever seen a market so soft...even with the lower capacity.

It's ridiculous. I bet the TO is selling a lot of these tickets.

Here's an idea. Make the gameday experience affordable for more people and more people will go to games. Taking my wife and 2 kids and sitting in the lower level endzone would cost me over $470 with parking BEFORE any concessions. I can afford this expenditure but I would venture that many cannot.

Making concessions more affordable will also lead to more people attending games and purchasing them. Raising beer prices to $9 for a Bud Light is absurd. Owners got greedy and kept raising prices until demand could no longer support the inflated prices.

People need to see the value in attending games to get up off of their couches and away from the large screen HDTV's.

I agree with you to a certain extent. The upper deck should have tickets in the $25 range. This would be good for everybody.

I also think that all of the OV seats should be ripped out to give a better overall perception of value to the LL seats. It would also make the concession lines in the LL more tolerable. It would also help fill the upper deck up because many of the OV crowd would go upstairs for the cheaper tickets.

As far as the $9 beer goes, I believe that it is way overpriced. I think $7 is a better number. (It's not going to be college bar prices at a sporting event).