Cooked Crack

You seem to be having an argument with yourself about what to call the ban. Trump made a campaign promise and this BS ban is his way of keeping it. This wasn't about security. It was just to check off a box. The fact that this ban would continue after 90 days shows that. Also the court made a vague compromise. Only 3 justices would have allowed the full ban to continue as intended. We'll see where this goes in October.

If Obama campaigned on banning Muslims and came out with a bs ban people would care. Also this also bans refugees indiscriminately. You seem to forget about them. The Trump administration says these are temporary but I don't really put much faith in them. The purpose of the ban was to increase "vetting." These procedures should have already occurred based on the original ban. Yet here we are limiting travel just because. Somalia, Libya, and Sudan are in Africa btw. Quit acting like you actually care.

I fully expect the marching orders to be that this doesn't prove collusion and even if it did, collusion is A-ok.

A green card lasts for 10 years. You can effectively stay here forever. A visa is temporary. Your grandma is sick or your cousin is getting married? Go pound sand.

Didn't see the part about close family. I feel like you give Trump an inch and he's going to take a mile. Supreme Court was pretty vague on what constitutes as a bona fide relationship. Can students from those countries come in if they don't have family relationship? Does that count as business ties? The court needs to strike it down. Do not assume Trump is like any other President.

Why wait till tomorrow? I thought this was supposed to be keeping the bad hombres out. It's like this wasn't about security.

Keep the pressure on these asses. We've already had this happen in the House. Watch them come back with some compromise that lets people save face.

2 hours ago, Kilmer17 said:

I hope the CBO report gives enough cover to the GOPers on the fence to not allow it to proceed. 

 

Let this turd die on its own merits.  Don't save it. 

I think this bill passes. Only 2 no votes to count on right now. If a 3rd real no vote comes along maybe I'll believe it dying. It would be hard for Collins and Heller to walk back their comments and vote for this turd. The only other pushbacks are this was pushed out too soon or it isn't terrible enough. Most of the Republicans that might be vulnerable aren't up in 2018. I can't see these guys doing the right thing.

5 minutes ago, Llevron said:

Time out. Y'all know the point if the investigation is to see if there is prof, right?

Yep, it's like they are ignoring this on purpose! By the logic in this thread murderers would be going free all the time. No proof today so there can't be any proof tomorrow!

These guys ain't even trying to hide it. If you have a pre-existing condition, get bent. Dems should be running ads with anything that can constitute a pre-existing condition. Might be less abstract when people realize their health is on the line.

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“We know why those premiums doubled,” he opined. “We’ve done something with our health care system that you would never think about doing, for example, with auto insurance, where you would require auto insurance companies to sell a policy to somebody after they crash their car.”

“States that have… guarantees for preexisting conditions, it crashes their markets,” he continued. “It causes the markets to collapse. It causes premiums to skyrocket."

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/ron-johnson-people-with-preexisting-condition-dont-deserve-insurance-like-somebody-who-crashes-their-car/

8 hours ago, youngchew said:

Starting GLOW in about 5 minutes.  We'll finish by tomorrow.

 

I heard Alison Brie goes nude  

The nudity was a pleasant surprise. I will say she's pretty unlikable and plain looking in this show.

I feel dumber just reading that tweet. Trump-speak only works for him because we're all on the same page that the President is an idiot.

GLOW on Netflix isn't bad. Come for the girls in skimpy outfits stay for the interesting story.

IUDs or subdermal implants would be great but doubt this Congress would approve of their use. You might have better luck with sterilization.

35 minutes ago, jschuck12001 said:

Look I have a major pre-existing and believe everyone deserves the right to live and have medical but does anyone else find it shocking that 50% of all births in the US are financed by Medicaid, that number seems astronomical.

 

So only 1 out of 2 Americans (Could be less if you dig into the numbers) are actually financially prepared to have kids when they do?  This also creates more taxpayer burdens down the road once the pregnancy is over.

 

We seem to have a major issue with a large part of this country being fiscally irresponsible and entitlements won't ever fix that problem it will just continue to push that number up.

 

So the fiscally responsible thing is to increase access to birth control and abortions? Or tell them to go without care in general?

This Bernie stuff was out there since May. Now it's official that they're under FBI investigation. Anyone who thought Bernie would go unscathed through a general was fooling themselves. The Clinton campaign treated him with kid gloves. This would have been his version of "her emails" if he won the primary. The whole St. Bernie narrative was pretty annoying.

Emotional thread on what lifetime caps will do. There's going to be many sob stories like this when TrumpCare passes. These guys know this bill is a turd burger and people will die because of it but they couldn't care less. This is literally what people voted for.

Cops too scared it seems. Can't even be out of uniform if you're a black cop. First 2 cops acted appropriately only to have cop #3 pull up and shoot first and ask questions later.

Totally missed that one. Heaggan-Brown is a real piece of work. Police seem to only protect their own when the crime is committed on duty.

1 hour ago, nonniey said:

The CBO report has already been proven to be off with the latest Obamacare enrollment figures. Their projection was for a far larger number of people to be enrolled and increasing enrollments in the future -  which didn't and isn't happening and is actually declining.  Right now there is no telling the actual total numbers the new ACHA would effect but most is now 12 million but that number has a declining trajectory

You are just pulling numbers out of nowhere it seems. Most of the people who are getting kicked of are Medicaid patients. The 12 million number is less than the number of Medicaid recipients expected to lose coverage. I'm going to assume it's easier to score removing a benefit than creating one from scratch. I just don't see Republicans not throwing those folks under the bus.

Thread on some documents released yesterday. The video of the girlfriend and daughter in the back of the cop car is sad and aggravating

15 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

I'm not sure I agree with the insinuation here.  So will the handicapped get screwed because none of them are involved in the negotiations?  I would imagine SOME of the best doctors in the world regarding womens issues are men.

 

I'd prefer to say its disgusting that only politicians are working on this bill.

If handicapped people made half the country then yes it would still be suspect.

2 hours ago, skinny21 said:

Maybe in a pissing match. 

 

That's beneath Trump. He has people he pays for that.

Trump has no intent whatsoever on

challenging Putin. He'll continue to bow down and Republicans will look the other way.

40 minutes ago, grego said:

I want to know what the jury heard that made them decide not guilty cuz I haven't heard anything yet about him going for the gun - only that he allegedly didn't hand over the gun (or something to that effect) when he told the officer he had one and a permit to have one. 

 

Maybe something will come out??? Just weird that I haven't heard anything that makes it justifiable. He's not guilty cuz he had the misfortune of having a bad witness? 

 

Im gonna want to hear more than that. 

This is America. Police can pull up, shoot a kid in 1 second and beat the case. Justice isn't afforded to all. The more people accept it the better we'd be.