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i thought it was Daniels today,Maye tuesday and mcCarthy wednesday.

1 hour ago, CapsSkins said:

 

My concern with Jayden's frame hasn't been about getting tackled when running - which I agree is fixable - but sacks in the pocket when lots of bodies come crashing. Shoulders, ribs, hip injuries on top of the usual ligament concerns.

 

I also have been very skeptical that a 24 year old at 200-210 lbs can simply bulk up to 225 over a couple years. But I am a total amateur. If Cooley thinks it's possible, while I wouldn't take it as gospel, I'd think he at least has some kind of educated intuition there.

 

Peters and Quinn's philosophy of building for the long-term (no shortcuts) made me think the pick would be Maye. But if they believe Jayden is flat-out the better prospect, I will trust them and root like hell for the young man to succeed. But the RG3 PTSD is strong lol.  

 

JD ain't bulking up to 225,It took him months after college season was over to get up to 210

2 minutes ago, Llevron said:

Yea you cracked the code I can’t even argue that one good find can’t believe no one else has found this statistically irrefutable evidence. 

Well where is your evidence that JD is gonna run all over teams in the NFL? 

2 minutes ago, Llevron said:

RG3 could read a defense. Ever. This other guy can. He really doesn’t have to run. He does and is gonna kill teams with it, but he doesn’t have to. Running WAS griffins game and he was determined to do it. Until he couldn’t. 

If JD doesn't have to run then why does he have more rushing attempts than RG3 did?

JD has the same tendencies that RG3 had which was when there was pressure he looked to run..Exact same thing that JD does..

Get ready for RG3 part 2 if the draft JD. Even there college stats are similar..lol

The problem with drafting JD at 2 is his playing weight ..there is no way his playing weight is 210,it's more like 200 or even less..with running being a big part of his game,he will not survive the hits that he is gonna take..So if they draft him and he gets constantly hurt then this regime needs to be put on the hot seat.

It would be foolish to take a QB that has started 55 games in college and only had a break out year in year 5..

I still think it's Maye..It just dosen't make any sense to draft a QB that is older with a lower ceiling over a QB that has a higher ceiling that is younger with prototypical measurements..I could see it if this was a GM and HC that was in say year 2 or 3 of a build,But to be in your first year together? It's just foolish with the red flags that JD has.

Just now, skinsmania123 said:

LOL! Your right do you know the two QB;'s that did?

Staubach and plunkett

7 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said:

Two and he will be the third.  Joe Montana is one. 

Montana didn't win no Heisman...lol

Yet only staubach is in the HOF,so again Heisman don't mean squat in the NFL

2 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said:

Two and he will be the third.  Joe Montana is one. 

Montana didn't win no Heisman...lol

2 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said:

I can't figure out how he had so many completions then. The guy won the Heisman. He had an amazing year, and I think it is transferable even though some on here actually said college stats don't matter. Yes, completions matter. The ability to use your legs in the modern NFL matters.  

 

I don't think he is going to get killed in the NFL. I think he will continue to make adjustments like rookies have to. I think the will pass the tests. 

Heisman don't mean squat in the NFL either..list all the QB'S that won the Heisman and also won a SB.

Just now, skinsmania123 said:

That is not true. He threw for more yards than Maye, as a comparison.  Caleb threw for around 4,500 I believe and he threw for about 3,800.

College stats don't mean squat in the NFL

Daniels just doesn't have the frame to play that style of QB in the NFL..If they draft him and he bust due to injury then AP needs to be fired

My problem with Daniels is he is what he is at this point..The moment he starts to feel pressure he is gonna start running without any intentions of throwing the ball..He has been playing that style of football for five years and no coach is gonna get him to stop..It's second nature to him now

11 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I like Maye over Daniels.  but I am not as full of confidence on it that some others are.   And I agree this point cuts both ways.    It's not like no one thinks they should take Daniels.  Plenty do.  It's not taking Bo Nix or some wild surprise at 2.  The judgment cuts both ways.  I reject the idea that Peters only looks bad if he passes on Maye and it backfires -- but gets a total pass if he passes on Daniels and it backfires.

 

For me this whole time, the only thing he could do with that pick to upset me is to trade down.  But tough for me to kill a GM for not getting the QB right considering so many have failed to get it right.  

Peters will look bad if he selects Daniels over Maye and Daniels is a bust and Maye turns out to be a franchise QB..analytics say Daniels will be a bust

9 minutes ago, skinsarethebest said:

yeah, how will his career look if he passes on Jayden in favor of Maye and Maye becomes Sam Howell 2.0 or the second coming of Zach Wilson or Josh Rosen, while Daniels is the NFC’s version of Lamar Jackson and wins multiple super bowls with the Giants?

here is a fact for you no Dual threat QB of Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick's kind  has ever won a SB..Daniels has to many red flags such as being almost 24 years old and having 5 years of experience and just now having a breakout year..weighing under 215 lbs,and when there is pressure hi first instinct is to run..

30 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

 

Not me.  I think we do it too, but it's a **** up and I'm going into this eyes open.  If we do this and Jayden is skinny Justin Fields and Drake Maye becomes Josh Allen part 2 in New England, Adam Peters's career is over.

Especially with that Trey Lance debacle on his resume..I know he wasn't GM,but he was involved the evaluation. 

6 minutes ago, TheBigJourney said:

You’re coping hard right now

So show proof where Washington is taking JD..

2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

Agreed. Everything else is media nonsense and due dilligence.

Maye has more upside,better physical traits, and younger..Yes daniels is more polished at this point in there careers,But he is not the correct pick for this franchise that has a first year GM and HC..Daniels is more suited for a team like the Vikings that has had a staff in place for a few years and needs to win now..Washington can take it slow and develop Maye.

It's Maye and always has been Maye..

Just now, mistertim said:

 

His first year starting he was told/taught to backpedal drop (I think I said shuffle, which was probably wrong terminology). Then this past season the new OC told/taught him to use NFL style drop backs.

Well then yeah his footwork is gonna be inconsistent..He doesn't have enough reps yet.

4 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I haven't been saying "Maye has no responsibility or issues with his footwork. It's all the fault of his OCs". I've been saying that having to use two different styles of drop back and footwork over his two starting years quite possibly had an effect on his footwork development and on it not being as consistent as we'd like. 

 

So I think it's likely a variety of factors, with being told to use two different types of drop back over two years being one of them. I don't think that's some crazy out of left field hypothesis.

I thought maye said in a interview following his proday he was asked to backpedal drop compared to what drops the NFL uses?

8 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

This is one of the reasons that I don't really agree with the whole "Daniels can start day 1, Maye can't" thing. They both bring things to the "day 1 starter" party. Daniels brings starting experience and more refined footwork/mechanics, and Maye brings experience in a very adverse environment and making NFL level throws into tight windows and with more anticipation.

Yeah lets see what those mechanics look like when his receiver dosen't have a couple yards of seperation on a defender and he holds onto the ball too long because he's not use to being pressured or the WR has no seperation and he gets leveled

JD is use to receivers being wide open compared To what Maye has had to deal with..That will make a huge difference in the NFL..

Maye has the better physical tools compared to JD..JD has the experience due to starting more games and being older.