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    The State of the GOP: With All the White Supremacists, Conspiracy Nutters, and Other Malicious Ignorant Subgroups, How Does It Get Fixed?

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    On 12/29/2020 at 10:06 AM, Jabbyrwock said:

     

    Let the thread title be your guide and start there.  The current GOP is a wretched hive of white supremacists and conspiracy nutters.  I'd perhaps throw in rampant science denial, though in a way that fits under conspiracy nutters.  That is what is wrong with the GOP.  Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell are read herrings.  An apotheosis of such values, not the cause.  So don't be confused.  What may come across as mixed messaging is mostly people focusing on particular traits is these individuals as exemplars of the underlying problems.

     

    Now...what I haven't read a lot of in this thread is "How To Fix It".  So if you have some ideas we are all ears.

    I really have no idea how to fix it. it's anathema to me like Martin Luther and the Roman Catholic church.

    Presidential Election: 11/3/20 ---Now the President Elect Joe Biden Thread

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    7 hours ago, China said:

    CBS News poll: Most feel election is "settled" but Trump voters disagree

     

    With the Electoral College poised to elect Joe Biden on Monday, a sizable 62% majority of the nation's voters feel the election is "over and settled" and it's "time to move on." Large majorities feel their own votes were counted correctly, and a majority acknowledge Mr. Biden as the "legitimate winner."

     

    But the president's backers feel very differently: 82% of Trump voters say they do not consider Mr. Biden legitimate and — perhaps most notably for the coming transition month — almost half of President Trump's voters say Mr. Trump should refuse to concede after that Electoral College vote happens, and instead do all he can to stay in power.

     

    As a rationale, the Trump voters who do not see Mr. Biden as legitimate widely accept Mr. Trump's premise for overturning the election results, and — even as states have certified results and courts have ruled against challenges — echo the president's assertions of fraud.

     

    Click on the link for the full article

     

    What I want to know is, who are the 2% of Biden voters that think Trump shouldn't concede and why not?

     

    You are under the mistaken impression that Americans actually care about facts.

     

    Let's take another look at how that plays right into the President's machinations:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/dilbert-creator-scott-adams-explains-trumps-persuasion-style-2017-10

     

    Presidential Election: 11/3/20 ---Now the President Elect Joe Biden Thread

    in The Tailgate

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    7 minutes ago, goskins10 said:

    There really is no legitimate rationale for the electoral college. The whole - do we want CA and NY to decide every election gets thrown out with - do we want PA to decide every election? It's pretty close to that. The difference is peoples votes actually matter with the majority. How many conservative in CA just don't vote anymore! NY??   WHy vote? ANd how many dems in W VA don't vote. How about AL (although dems are an endangered species in AL.) Every other elected office is done by majority vote. President should be no different. 

     

     

    Maybe it would be better if all Electors were like Nebraska?

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    BBC: China pneumonia outbreak: COVID-19 Global Pandemic

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    12 minutes ago, Llevron said:

     

    Im not sure how to articulate it, but I suspect that Republicans and the people who give them orders are smart enough to know that they need people to take advantage of to stay on top. And if those people either die or have no money at all to take, then Republicans lose and they whole system falls apart. So as always, they will end up doing what they have to do to retain power. Not explicitly to save or help people. But if they have to, to benefit themselves....sure it will happen. 

    That's not unique to Republicans. That's most politicians in general.

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    The Impeachment Thread

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    2 hours ago, Jumbo said:

     

    less credible

     

    z's an evangelical christian

     

     

    :evil:

     

     

    :D

     

     

     

    (sorry z, you know i'll lower myself for a gag if i see one---btw, zguy has been a stable and honest broker for his views for years here and unless my recall is amiss, he is not trump-friendly)

     

    Bless you my friend. ;)

     

    Worse than that, I am an evangelical church leader who has left the GOP and advises youth to not go to Liberty U.

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    The Impeachment Thread

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    13 hours ago, Hersh said:

     

    You seem to have found the only so called liberal part of the entire country that thinks that.

    maybe. Cape Cod is full of old people. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who hate him there. Many more than not, but I was surprised when it came up several times at parties. I was expecting one thing, which I agree with btw (he should be removed from office, #nevertrump), and got another.

    The Impeachment Thread

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    spent the holidays in a pretty liberal area of Massachussetts and was very surprised by the amount of people who said they were against impeachment and that their party (Democrats) was embarrassing the United States. Most of them were older democrats, and some were immigrants. It honestly took me by surprise.

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    How do you see current society playing out? Headed towards Civil War Lite?

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    2 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

    Not sure if you all are looking at around the world, but there are a bunch of protests taking place because of corruption and anti-democratic efforts. Ecuador is Kicking off right now too.

     

    But us Americans are doing nothing while a guy is becoming a dictator with no impediment. 


    We are a docile nation who is sitting down and watching the world burn and our institutions collapse.

    But we have Hulu, video games, and pro sports to binge on... we're too fat and lazy as a nation to care (generally).

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    NYT: A School Put an Autistic Boy’s Desk in a Bathroom, Setting Off a Debate on Stigmas

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    2 hours ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

     

    I think that's a serious accusation. This strikes me much more as being tone deaf and/or ignorant than malicious. 

     

    It does very much bother me though...no excuse for sticking a kid in a bathroom. 

    I will give them the benefit of the doubt on motive. I was just talking to my wife (former teacher) about this. She said due to overcrowding and over-zealous attempts at full inclusion, many public schools no longer have dedicated quiet rooms for special kids like this to retreat to.

    Presidential Election: 11/3/20 ---Now the President Elect Joe Biden Thread

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    Warren got some church pulpit time to stump in South Carolina... preach on...

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-the-pulpit-on-the-curb-sanders-and-warren-take-2020-campaign-straight-to-sc-voters/ar-AAG1ewl

     

    Fear me you lord and lady preachers
    I descend upon your earth from the skies
    I command your very souls you unbelievers
    Bring before me what is mine
    The seven seas of Rhye

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