visionary

There was suspicion on twitter that it might be a coup.  But that could also be what Putin and co. want us to think.

Anything new about this?

Mariupol: Survivors and drone footage reveal the scale of destruction (msn.com)

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Mariupol: Survivors and drone footage reveal the scale of destruction

 

Conditions in Mariupol are "unbearable" and "just hell," residents who fled the besieged city in southeastern Ukraine have told CNN, as shocking drone footage and satellite photos emerged showing the utter devastation wrought by the Russian bombardment.

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As many as 2,500 civilians have died in Mariupol, Ukrainian officials estimate. About 350,000 people are trapped in the city, with officials warning those who remain are without electricity, water and heat.

Two women who managed to escape to the Zaporizhzhia region, about 140 miles away, on Monday told CNN about conditions in Mariupol and the frightening journey out.

Lidiia, who did not give her surname due to safety concerns, told CNN that she decided to leave Mariupol after Russian bombardments started hitting closer to her home.

 

"We left the city under shelling -- there is no silence in Mariupol," the 34-year-old said. "Today we talked to our neighbors, they said that the situation now is even worse, so no one knows whether people will be able to leave Mariupol today."

 

She said she had spent two weeks in a basement with about 60 other people, adding she only left occasionally to retrieve items from her apartment.

 

Describing the journey out of the city, Lidiia said: "We stopped several times and hid the children because the airplane was flying very low directly above us. We were afraid that we would come under fire. But it was no longer possible to stay in the city. Mariupol is now just hell."

1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

Wow. I think I would rather have drones than fighter jets…..

Jets are for shooting other planes and drones are generally for dealing with stuff on the ground though., at least think so.

I'm interested to see what we send though.  Ukraine has been using the Turkish drones quite a bit and they've achieved some level of fame there now.  (including a music video)

Hopefully this doesn’t go the way of the migs..

At least it was just tear gas.

Mcfaul’s been going pretty hard.

I think I posted something about the peace keeping proposals earlier.  I do worry that the more people tune out or don’t see what’s going on in Ukraine, the more Putin and Russia will feel free to commit atrocities.

I do wonder what we would tell the tens of thousands of Ukrainian refugees who may end up here if Russia wins.

6 minutes ago, Redskins Diehard said:

Define en masse. 

By the hundreds and thousands.  
 

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