Yomar Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 TACKLES: # Round Name Link School 1 1B Jordan Gross Utah 2 1B Kwame Harris Stanford 3 1C Eric Steinbach Iowa 4 2A Brett Williams Florida St 5 2B George Foster Georgia 6 3A Tony Pashos Illinois 7 3B Steve Sciullo Marshall 8 3C Todd Williams Florida St 9 4A Jeremy Bridges Southern Miss 10 4A Jon Stinchcomb Georgia 11 4B Will Ofenheusle Tennessee 12 4C Ben Johnson Wisconsin 13 4C Seth Wand NW Missouri St 14 5A Jordan Black Notre Dame 15 5A Derrick Brantley Clemson 16 5B Tim Provost San Jose St 17 5B Gary Bryd Clemson 18 5C Dustin Ryker BYU 19 6A Damien Lavergne Louisiana Tech 20 6A Wayne Hunter Hawaii 21 6B Courtney Van Beuren Ark-Pine Bluff 22 6B David Porter Iowa 23 6C Justin Bates Colorado 24 7A Dralinn Burks Kansas St 25 7A Rob Doane Texas 26 7B Kareem Marshall Georgia 27 7C Pete Lougheed Purdue 28 7C Makao Freitas Arizona GUARDS: # Round Name School 1 2B Torrin Tucker Southern Miss 2 3A Wade Smith Memphis 3 3B Derrick Dockery Texas 4 3C Vince Manuwai Hawaii 5 4A Garry Johnson Arkansas St 6 4B Montrae Holland Florida St 7 4C Anthony Davis Virginia Tech 8 5A Jamil Soriano Havard 9 5B Gus Felder Penn St 10 5C Cedric Williams South Carolina 11 6A Tony Terrell UNLV 12 6B Alex Jackson Georgia 13 6C Sherko Haji-Rasouli Miami-Fl 14 6C Jeff Roehl Northwestern 15 7A Morgan Pears Colorado St 16 7B Taylor Whitley Texas A&M 17 7C Justin Sands Kansas 18 7C Enoch DeMar Indiana CENTERS: # Round Name Link School 1 3A Jeff Faine Notre Dame 2 3C Al Johnson Wisconsin 3 4B Dan Koppen Boston College 4 5A Austin King Northwestern 5 5B Brett Romberg Miami-Fl 6 6A Gene Mruczkowski Purdue 7 6B Ben Claxton Mississippi 8 6C Ben Nowland Auburn 9 6C Marcus Ogden Howard 10 7B Bruce Nelson Iowa 11 7C Lui Fuata Hawaii 12 7C Chad Setterstrom Northern Iowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 Dropping Manuwai is a bit of a shock...especially to the late 3rd. Wade Smith profile from TFY: Scouting Report: Wade Smith By Tony Pauline- TFY Draft Preview Date: Nov 23, 2002 Originally a blocking tight end, Wade Smith was forced to play tackle last year at Memphis and quickly took to his new position. He is now considered by scouts as one of the nations' most athletic line prospects. Full Name: Wade Smith School: Memphis Ht: 6-3.5 Wt:275 40: 5.01 Year: 5Sr Number: 71 Stats/ Bio: 2001: Moved from tight end to offensive tackle then started all 11 games during the season. 2000: Used as a blocker in the Tigers' two tight end sets. Finished the season with five catches for 25 yards. 1999: Lettered as a true freshman after playing in all 11 games as the backup tight end for Billy Kendall. Scouting Report: The Good: Former tight end that moved to the tackle position in 2001 but may be best off at guard in the NFL. Athletic blocker that plays with sound fundamentals and displays the skills to be effective in space or on the second level. Generally quick off the snap, light on his feet, can shuffle and slide in pass protection or take linebackers out of the play off the line of scrimmage. Quick with his hands and fights hard the entire play. The Bad: Not big or bulky but has added weight since he was a true freshman. Did not look like a natural pass catcher early in his career at tight end. The Skinny: Ultimately an effective pulling guard that could be used in several different offensive schemes and a lineman that will get better as he physically matures and receives more reps on the line. More on Wade Smith from TSN (they had him listed as a T: Player evaluation: Wade Smith Height: 6-3 Weight: 274 War Room analysis Strengths: Has exceptional footwork and quickness. Gets out and blocks moving targets in the running game. Has great initial quickness. Takes solid angles to his blocks. Can shuffle laterally in pass protection. Has excellent body control. Gets a quick, deep set in pass protection and does a great job of bending at his knees and playing with leverage. Weaknesses: Lacks bulk and strength. Has trouble matching up against powerful defensive ends. Lacks the lower-body strength to hold his ground at the point of attack. Struggles to move the pile in the running game. Does not have great leg drive and is forced to win battles with good position. Bottom line: Smith is an undersized tackle with good footwork and athleticism. He moves well in the open field and is excellent at mirroring and sliding with pass rushers. He has adequate strength for his size, but he struggles against bigger and stronger defensive ends. He desperately needs to add bulk and strength. Smith could be worth drafting late as a developmental offensive tackle or possibly as a blocking specialist at tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Wade Smith definately is a riser, but his lack of bulk is somewhat of concern to me especially when he will be forced to match up against 300 lb. DT's on a constatnt basis. Manuwai dropping does really surprise me as scouts must be concerned with his struggles in the sr. bowl, as well as the fact that he did not look overly comfortable in a 3 pt. stance as he played the majority of his career ina 2 pt stance at Hawaii. For my money, the best guard out there is FSU OG Montrae Holland, not only does he have the size top pay the pro game, but he also has played in numerous big time contests & wa sdominating vs. the Miami Hurricane front 4 this past yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Brasi Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Originally posted by Yomar Dropping Manuwai is a bit of a shock...especially to the late 3rd. No kidding. Grabbing him in the 3rd would be the steal of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 He's not really a "steal" if he's going to struggle against larger... quicker DL. In the Senior Bowl, it was the tale of two cities. He either executed his "handpunch" successfully and stood up the DL, quite effectively and intensely I might add, or he let the defender into his body and got pushed back into the QB. Anthony Adams, Penn St. DL rising up charts, had his way with him on more than one occasion. If it's the three point stance that's giving him problems, maybe time and coaching can correct that. Or... a question of you rule mongers, does the guard have to put his hand on the ground in the NFL? I've also read that Brett Williams, Todd Williams, and George Foster may be better guards than tackles. Of course, some of the OL fanatics here might cringe at the prospect of drafting a tackle with the intent on moving him to guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 3 3B Derrick Dockery Texas 4 3C Vince Manuwai Hawaii That would make one hell of a third round! I think it's hilarious that the scouts have slid Manuwai from late first/early second to the third round based on the Senior Bowl. I think coaching can help with his technique -- he's got the one thing that can't be taught that I like most in guards: he's a nasty competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 CSkin: The OL does not have to put his hand on the ground. What this says about Manuwai however, is that his time at Hawaii was spent in a run and shoot offense (stress "shoot"). The OL cannot effectively run block without having a 3 point stance and and OG must be able to run block. Since Manuwai spent most of his plays pass blocking from a 2 point stance, his learning curve to run (and pass) block from a 3 point stance is going to be an issue. The scouts saw this in Senior Bowl practices - thus the drop to the third round. The week of Senior Bowl practices combined with the game is plenty time enough to reasonably downgrade Manuwai for this obvious flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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