goldenster95 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Oh come on...theres no way he's anything below above average. He plays pretty well, and does his blocking assignments pretty well. If it wasn't for him getting blown away by that Giants DE, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now. He has been doing pretty well up until then. Amen, brother. And he (and everyone else) got beat by a pretty damn good d-lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Whoops! We don't play Minny. :doh: Man...talk about a tough final stretch...our last 3 NFCE games come pretty darn close near the end. Funny thing... Dallas has had all 3 of their NFCE games played at home. So they got to play the rest away...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Oh come on...theres no way he's anything below above average. He plays pretty well, and does his blocking assignments pretty well. If it wasn't for him getting blown away by that Giants DE, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now. He has been doing pretty well up until then. Yeah? Remember the KC game? Again, is he worth the money? I might not be having this exact discussion if he was paid accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Yeah? Remember the KC game? Again, is he worth the money? I might not be having this exact discussion if he was paid accordingly. I didn't watch that game i live in eastern tennessee. I thought by me moving here i would at least be able to see more games than when i was down in Florida...but all i see is Tennessee, and Carolina. What happened? I heard a no name got a few sacks on us but i didn't know it was Samuels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Amen, brother. And he (and everyone else) got beat by a pretty damn good d-lineman. Yeah, the Giants D-line isn't that bad at all...made our O-line look like butter...i feel cursed because i actually saw that game on t.v and i almost threw up. I even laughed a bit when Royal dropped that TD pass at the end. It just was not our day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I didn't watch that game i live in eastern tennessee. I thought by me moving here i would at least be able to see more games than when i was down in Florida...but all i see is Tennessee, and Carolina.What happened? I heard a no name got a few sacks on us but i didn't know it was Samuels. Jared Allen got three sacks that game. And he only got them because he, as he admitted later, was able to time Brunell's snap count. That was an issue that was later talked about at length by Brian Mitchell, who said that Gibbs usually only uses one snap count during road games. He stated that should change since, if, like someone like Jared Allen is able to time the count and you don't have another one to fall back on, you're dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Yeah, the Giants D-line isn't that bad at all...made our O-line look like butter...i feel cursed because i actually saw that game on t.v and i almost threw up. I even laughed a bit when Royal dropped that TD pass at the end. It just was not our day. It wasn't our day at all. When Betts coughed up that fumble to being the second half, that was really a kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I didn't watch that game i live in eastern tennessee. I thought by me moving here i would at least be able to see more games than when i was down in Florida...but all i see is Tennessee, and Carolina.What happened? I heard a no name got a few sacks on us but i didn't know it was Samuels. Allen had a huge game against him. Tackles Interceptions Fumbles GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Tkl Ast Tot Sacks Int Yds Lg TD Pass Def FF Rec Yds TD 10/02 PHI L 31-37 Yes 3.0 1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 10/16 WAS W 28-21 Yes 5.0 0 5 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Jared Allen got three sacks that game. And he only got them because he, as he admitted later, was able to time Brunell's snap count. That was an issue that was later talked about at length by Brian Mitchell, who said that Gibbs usually only uses one snap count during road games. He stated that should change since, if, like someone like Jared Allen is able to time the count and you don't have another one to fall back on, you're dead. Yeah...sometimes i feel that we are predictible...but at least we aren't too conservative like we were last year. We ran the ball than did short little screens. But watching our D was somethin else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 It wasn't our day at all. When Betts coughed up that fumble to being the second half, that was really a kicker. I just ignored the fact that we even played after the game was over...i was like Redskins lose?? What are you talkin about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Well, anyway, in the end we'll see how it plays out. But I'm a big believer in drawing from historical lessons, and CS's record over the past 3 seasons and accumulation of injuries just isn't working in his favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Allen had a huge game against him. Tackles Interceptions Fumbles GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Tkl Ast Tot Sacks Int Yds Lg TD Pass Def FF Rec Yds TD 10/02 PHI L 31-37 Yes 3.0 1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 10/16 WAS W 28-21 Yes 5.0 0 5 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 Players always seem to have career days against us...this is nothing new...just a trend. Go to hell Tiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Players always seem to have career days against us...this is nothing new...just a trend. Go to hell Tiki. Exactly. And it's a gas how some people seem to think that Samuels has had a bad past three seasons when he played at a near Pro-Bowl level in one (2004) and actually made the Pro-Bowl in another (2002). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Exactly. And it's a gas how some people seem to think that Samuels has had a bad past three seasons when he played at a near Pro-Bowl level in one (2004) and actually made the Pro-Bowl in another (2002). I'm fine with our lineman...i think this unit can be very good if they had a little longer to gel. They have all the potential in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Oh yeah, ask the QBs how well he played. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I'm fine with our lineman...i think this unit can be very good if they had a little longer to gel. They have all the potential in the world. I'm a little worried about Dockery. He's the guy that has huge potential. This was supposed to be his breakout season. So far, he's yet to reach the hype that Bugel's given him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Oh yeah, ask the QBs how well he played. LOL. Huh? If i recall hasn't Mark said previously to the Giants game that the line was playing very well for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I'm a little worried about Dockery. He's the guy that has huge potential. This was supposed to be his breakout season. So far, he's yet to reach the hype that Bugel's given him. Yeah...he has been solid though...better than last year i'm gonna say that. Last year he was piling up the false starts like mad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Huh? If i recall hasn't Mark said previously to the Giants game that the line was playing very well for him? During the alleged "near Pro Bowl year" - 2004. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Huh? If i recall hasn't Mark said previously to the Giants game that the line was playing very well for him? Nah, Oakton knows a little better than Brunell. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 During the alleged "near Pro Bowl year" - 2004. :laugh: I'm talking about '05...and you've sorta lost me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I'm talking about '05...and you've sorta lost me... There's a wild assertion floating around this thread that CS had a great '04. Well, let's pour a few shots for Mark and Patrick and ask them what they really think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 There's a wild assertion floating around this thread that CS had a great '04. Well, let's pour a few shots for Mark and Patrick and ask them what they really think. The Pro Bowl left tackle was gaining a reputation as one of the league's best, but he hasn't delivered consistently this season. In Week 8, he was torched by Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora, and that wasn't the first week he had trouble with a fast pass rusher. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 There's a wild assertion floating around this thread that CS had a great '04. Well, let's pour a few shots for Mark and Patrick and ask them what they really think. Well you do know that we had Ray Brown in at the time right? 2 other horrible lineman playing. I dunno i dont think Samuels can be the blame for the sacks last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 I'm going to bed it was nice talking to you fellow skins fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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