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3 hours ago, CTskin said:

La'el went undrafted who I absolutely would have taken with a late rounde winger. I know most Skins fans on ES were saying the same thing. Just like with Caleb Brantley this year...

 

Frank Clark and DGB were both projected 2nd rounders who were drafted in the 2nd.

 

Again, you are missing my point... I'm talking about the players who dropped ROUNDS and at some point become worth the risk of a draft pick. The fact of the matter is that it's difficult to find a stud, let alone a starter, after the 2nd round. All of the guys I mentioned were steals of their drafts, but we've always shied away from players with red flags. I think we need to change that.

Clark was predicted first round at the beginning of that college season and fell to the second last pick of the second. 

And as I stated with Le'el, he STATED that if he was drafted he would forego the season, not sign and reenter the draft. It wasn't worth it knowing he wasn't going to sign. There are rookie caps for all rounds and his max would have been minimal in the late rounds. It was clear he wasn't going to sign with whomever drafted him. Caleb, I do agree with however. He didn't have a long history of off field altercations except for that one heinous act. 

But, no, i'm not missing your point. I understand that there is a chance you hit on one of the dropping troublemakers and you look like a genius. But there are a LOT of guys who drop for similar reasons and don't work out. I would say a majority don't. 

10 minutes ago, CTskin said:

I think you missed my point. I'm talking about top tier talent that drops rounds, if not all the way to the bottom of the draft due to character concerns. Every year there's only one, maybe two. 

 

Manziel and Phillips were both 1st rounders. 

I got your point, and my point was for every guy that drops because of character issues and atones there is someone who should have dropped because of character issues and didn't and the team got burnt. In other words, you never really know who is going to make amends.

La'el Collins, BTW, didn't get drafted because he told his agent that if he did, he would sit out and re-enter the next year's draft. Would you have risked a first or second on him?

You look at guys like Frank Clark on Seattle who fell to the third because of issues and while he's been a decent player, the dude has been nothing but a locker room cancer, including punching a fellow Seahawk in the face this offseason.  Dorial Beckham Green was another one who dropped and he's on what his 4th team already? Karlos Williams another one. 

13 minutes ago, CTskin said:

Random thought crossed the mind and figured this would be the proper place for it. 

 

1) We could have been so good right now if we would have taken a/some chance(s) on players who dropped in the draft due to character concerns... A few that come to mind- Honey Badger, Lael Collins, Joe Mixon, Vontaze Burfict, LeGarret Blount, Caleb Brantley... I'm not saying we could have landed all of them, but infusing one or two of these studs on cheap rookie contracts is the perfect way to build a team. None of the aforementioned players have had issues since entering the league. Maybe I'm just not remembering the studs that had red flags at the draft who then dropped and never ended up panning out?

 

I didn't mean for there to be a part 2, was just curious about what people thought to #1 but while I'm here...

2) IF we would just effing bench Compton. Absolutely hate what I'm seeing in camp from him- slow to react, bad reads/takes bad angles, poor athleticism, just no improvement from last season. I hate him so much that I don't have enough left to hate on Grant and Luavao.  

For every Honey Badger there's a dozen Johnny Manziels and Lawrence Phillips. Hindsight is 20/20 so why not just say for every undrafted rookie that succeeded why didn't we risk a 7th on them?

I bow down.

On 4/5/2017 at 8:23 PM, gooseneck said:

I am tracker dog on the site

Either you're a liar or how did you break 20,000 for the Browns?

I'd be thrilled with that however I think your FA numbers in terms of money are lower than what they will actually get.

I gave up next year's first but i don't care

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 19 (T.B.): Zach Cunningham, ILB, Vanderbilt (A)
Round 1 Pick 25 (ATL): Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan (B)
Round 2 Pick 19 (T.B.): Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A)
Round 2 Pick 21 (G.B.): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 16: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 3 Pick 21 (G.B.): Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 6: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+)
Round 4 Pick 16: Braden Smith, OG, Auburn (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan (B+)
Round 5 Pick 16: Brandon Kublanow, C, Georgia (F)
Round 6 Pick 16: Channing Stribling, CB, Michigan (A-)
Round 6 Pick 20: Clint Van Horn, OT, Marshall (D-)
Round 7 Pick 16: Aarion Penton, CB, Missouri (A-)

15 hours ago, gooseneck said:

Not sure if I have this game wired yet

 

Your score is: -551 (GRADE: )

 

Your Picks:

 Round 1 Pick 20: Adam Griffith, K, Alabama (F)

 Round 2 Pick 20: Andy Phillips, K, Utah (F)

 Round 3 Pick 20: Ben Grogan, K, Oklahoma State (F)

 Round 4 Pick 6: Cameron Van Winkle, K, Washington (F)

 Round 4 Pick 7 (CAR): Aleem Sunanon, K, South Alabama (F)

 

Your Team: Washington Redskins

Swinging gate just took on a whole new meaning.

On 11/26/2016 at 2:11 AM, ixcuincle said:

Maybe it's just the lack of sleep but I'm sitting in front of my computer looking over the Cowboy's last 5 games and it's conceivable they could not win a single game the rest of the way. 

Opposition includes Minnesota, the Giants, Eagles, Tampa, and the Lions. All 5 teams are in the playoff mix or hovering around .500. It could happen!!

We don't want that.

I have friends that are fans of other teams (Chiefs, Dolphins, Steelers) and they all say the exact same thing.

there is no conspiracy theory.

1 hour ago, Reaper Skins said:

Two days after Norman criticizes the league, and one day after Gruden agrees with him and says Norman IS being targeted, its announced that Trent Williams, our best offensive player, gets busted for a substance abuse violation and can't play for a month.

Not condoning Trent's actions at all.  And I know the investigatiom has apparently been ongoing for awhile, but even the most skeptical of fans would be hard pressed to look at that time line of events and say the timing of them wasn't related.

This is why no one takes "conspiracy theories" seriously. He's been popped before for weed. IF you're putting ANYTHING in your body during the season then you deserve to get suspended. At least we have 2 weeks to get a new RT acclimated. 

Anyone who thinks the refs have it out for us, Oakland just tied the NFL record of 22 penalties in a game.

... and now set the record with 23

He's probably got 20K in his wallet