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It doesn't, because looking up his stats on wikipedia doesn't show you what kind of fighter he was, Dana let him go for a reason. God forbid you actually watch the fights.

But I'll go ahead and let the Fedor Fanboi's claim he is number one in the world without fighting guys like Lesnar, Couture, Mir ,Carwin, Velasquez, Junior Dos Santos....hell even Kongo or Gonzaga. He is number one beating has beens.

I'm sorry, I like talking MMA with people who actually watch MMA and aren't just fans of a certain fighter, its obvious it isn't here.

:hysterical: You think Kongo would test the true mettle of Fedor? Gonzaga? Couture? Mir? They would be murdered by Fedor. I don't know what fights you are watching to come to your wild ideas about true bouts for Fedor, but I'm not quite sure you watched the UFC fights this weekend :doh:

I also find it laughable that you seriously think Fedor isn't joining the UFC because he's trying to dodge fights. That's absurd. Anyone who knows even a little bit about the way Dana White works would have a clue as to why Fedor is hesitant about contracting with that organization.

By the way, before you go off and call me a "Fedor boi" or whatever, you should know that I've been accused by many for having a thing for Lesnar And yes, that is a fight I would really like to see.

I know some people would wanna argue for Fedor, but IMO there are too many fighters out there that Fedor isn't fighting, he is beating scrubs right now so I am very skeptical on him until he proves himself against the elite.

Let me get this straight, your contention is that Fedor hasn't "proven" himself against the elite??? Who does he need to fight to "prove" himself in your eyes?

Lol at the Diego gifs. Very nice.

Kimbo turned down his second chance to fight. lol

Without a doubt, my favorite part of the TUF season was McSweeney getting ****y and throwing his chin out there and Nelson drilling him with one right up the middle.

It was not a great season, but that may have made it all worth it.

Really though, I can't understand idiots who do that bullcrap in a fight. Anyone who does that deserves to get KO'd.

I was really sad too when Baby lost. He was my favorite.

this will either be really really good or disgustingly horrible

Hmm, I wonder what I'm going to predict.......

Speculation and based on no intimate knowledge of his current condition. I'm just saying.

BTW, Brock did 'roids.

Lol, I wouldn't argue with that in his post-collegiate career.

But now, you're saying Brock is a fav of yours. To me, what he did was much more despicable than what Rashad did. Rashad did a funny little antic, and I don't think he even realized the severity of the KO. Brock, on the other hand, runs up to a bloodied Mir AFTER the fight, while the docs are still looking at him (or just finished), and got in his face and looked as though he'd hit him again. Just curious why you feel differently about the two incidents.

Good question. There's really no rhyme or reason why I like Brock and don't really like Rashad other than the stories my husband has told me about hanging out with Brock at wrestling camps in Min. I guess his stories have endeared me to Lesnar, simply b/c I know a bit more about what's behind his facade than I do about Rashad. I will say however, that I like Rashad a lot more now that I've seen him coaching on this season's TUF, although TUF is totally lame...

He shouldn't have gone up to Mir like that, but I can kind of see that happening because he's a pretty intense dude; he's a lot more emotional than a lot of other fighters. Still shouldn't have done it at all, I guess I just kind of "get" that personality more as the years go by and I am kind of thrust into hanging out with more and more wrestlers. They seem to have a similar personality streak that runs through most of them. :whoknows:

As for Rashad, I probably was too harsh on him back in the day when he KO'd Chuck. My dislike for Rashad made me dislike the act even more and have a more visceral reaction against what he did. What he did wasn't right either, but like you say, it probably wasn't a completely intentionally malicious act.

So you're right, my reactions to the two acts aren't consistent. Sorry. Tried to explain it a little bit, but I'll be the first to admit they aren't consistent. But hey, I'm a crazy chick, I'm not supposed to utilize a rational reasoning process when formulating opinions about who I like!!! So there.

By the way Lovetoaster, the picture you showed; how many people you know that size with striations in their chest like that? Seriously, that dude was pretty damn ripped. Compare him to other MMA fighters fighting at the same weight he was fighting in college. Also, how much did he weigh in that picture? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1018452/index.htm say's here that he put on 60lbs from high school in 96 to college in 98, naturally?

From your very link:

That's because it's hard to get past Lesnar's imposing physique. He's a weight-lifting fanatic and has put on 60 pounds since graduating from Webster (S.Dak.) High in 1996. He can deadlift 720 pounds, squat 695 and bench-press 475, totals that arouse suspicion that he didn't attain such strength naturally. Robinson had Lesnar tested for steroids shortly after he arrived at Minnesota. The results were negative. "I never thought Brock was using steroids," says Robinson. "When people look at him, they make assumptions, and I told Brock that I wanted to eliminate the question before it became an issue. He didn't have a problem with that."

Again, I'm he was probably involved with roids, but in college, no way.

Again, I really hope the guy is okay but you have to imagine how much steroids a guy would have to do to go from the size he was in college to the size he was in Pro wrestling. We're probably talking 60lbs of muscle. He was around 300lbs of muscle in the WWE,F or whatever it's called these days. That's not just a couple cycles of juice to push through a plateau.

No offense, but you have absolutely no idea how much muscle Brock has put on and taken off, you are completely guessing with your figure here.

The guy was pretty huge in college. My husband remembers Brock canon-balling off the roof of a friend's house into the pool back in college and him almost draining the pool, lol. Okay, obviously draining the pool is an exageration, however, the guy has always been pretty freakishly huge.

I'm not saying that he did or did not do roids after his collegiate career. Like I said before, I wouldn't be surprised if that was confirmed. However, you seem to be discounting his natural size and are just throwing out figures regarding his muscle gain following college.

I also know that oral steroids will really take their toll on your liver, kidney's and prostate. Good friend of mine ate dynabol like it was freaking candy, 10+ pills a day in addition to the crap he was injecting in his ass. Also, when some of these guys reach a plateau with the roids they'll inject themselves with insulin to gain weight. You wouldn't believe the things people will do to gain more mass, it's an addiction.

I actually have friends who have been on heavy duty steroids, I'm pretty well aware of the crap they do. I am also well aware of steroid effects on organs like the kidneys, liver, prostrate, acne, etc. What I am not fully aware of is what types of effects steroids potentially have on the INTESTINE, the actual organ that is involved here in Brock's case.

At this point, everything is conjecture regarding the causes of his condition (unless we are members of his medical care team which obviously none of us are). If I had to guess though, I would be surprised if a current bacterial infection in the intestine necessitating major surgery was the result of possible steroid usage years ago... Who knows though.

This really sucks about Lesnar. I'm a big fan of his...me loves wrastlers. I love watching him fight and I think his personality is totally hilarious. So I'm really sad to hear this about his health. Whether he ever fights again or not, I hope he just gets better and is able to enjoy the rest of his life with his family...that's my wish for anyone who is ill.

As for the observation about roids, I can confidently say I don't think he did them during his collegiate wrestling days, the guys get big time tested in college. However, after college and during his "pro" wrestling career, I would not at all be shocked to learn he did some serious roids, among other bad things...he's pretty much admitted that in interviews.

Who knows whether or not that has any bearing on his particular health issue right now; I don't know how steroids affect the intestines or a preexisting intestinal problem. Being hospitalized since collapsing and talk of transferring him to one of the world's premiere research hospital for treatment is certainly very worrisome though. Obviously this is a personal issue for Lesnar and his family, but I'm definitely curious about the type of intestinal-related illness that would just drop a guy like this, require a major surgery and end a career...

Whatever the case, my sympathies go out to him and his family and I really hope he is able to recover from this.

me too. kang quit though, he needs to be cut

Oh yeah, agree with you there.

And I agree, I hate Bisping too. I basically expected him to win though, he's just a slightly above-average fighter that fights average guys most of the time. I'm sure his next bout will be against Pete Sell or some other scrub.

Pretty much exactly the situation. I friggin hate that.

And it will be the main event of UFC 112 in Liverpool.

:hysterical:

I wouldn't mind seeing a Bisping/Hendo rematch...

Dang, the way Dana is talking about Brock is not good at all. That's too bad to hear, hopefully he is able to recover from this illness.

I really hate Michael Bisping. That is all.

the irony of Chael Sonnen predicting a boring fight, and criticizing another fighter's standup abilities

Yeah, I was just going to say that. Chael's a frickin moron. Yawn, stretch back to sleep.

Haha, that Hollywood drama is starting to seep into his brain. He needs to change his nickname to Quinton "Hollywood" Jackson.

I'd definitely be down with that, lol.

I'm so happy about the Vitor victory, I can't wait to see what they do with him now. That shakes up 185 in a good way. There are a lot of fight possibilities.

Definitely agree. I love Rich Franklin, I think he's a super nice guy, but I was rooting for Belfort in this fight. I loved watching him back in the UFC "old days," he was always entertaining...and I think this is great for the division. Can't wait to see what lies ahead for Belfort and the entire MW division....

he was the only submission on the card, he should pocket the bonus money

He's a really great guy, super nice and an insanely hard worker; he certainly deserves anything good that comes his way. Here's to hoping the rest of his contract plays out well.

EDIT: Just read on Sherdog he got "Fight of the Night" too. Freaking $130,000 in bonus money between the two! Unbelievable. Couldn't be happier about the outcome for him tonight.

Yaaayyyyyyyy!!!!! I'm so freaking excited!! I was about to throw up when I saw Ricky get tagged in the beginning. I don't think I could've handled much more, glad he submitted him when he did.

Very thoughtful and I think I remember the guy you're talking about. We were all rooting for him that night.

Yeah, his name's Ricky. He's actually fighting tonight too.

isn't your friend on the card tonight as one of the undercard fights?

His fight will be broadcast with the rest of the preliminaries, free, on Spike before the main card on PPV. Pretty much a do or die fight for him, so we'll see what happens...we are all definitely keeping our :fingersx:

Okay, since Chachie got his promo, I get to give my brag story!

Our friend who just started fighting in the UFC gave us one of the coolest wedding presents a couple weeks ago. When he came to the rehearsal, he pulled out a poster from UFC 99 signed by everyone on the card with messages written to us, and then he gave us his gloves from that fight! He could have given them to his family members, but he said he knew we'd appreciate them more...how freaking cool is that?!

Rampage has to be the worst coach ever.

Lol. Methinks Rampage just really doesn't give a **** whether his team wins or loses...just picking dudes who will give his team the most publicity.

This is why this sport still is barbaric. NO WAY that fight should have continued. I'm a longtime boxing and pro wrestling fan and I do watch MMA on occassion, that was the worst cut I have ever seen and they let that fight continue.

Shameless promo time for Chachie:

I started a thread where my new web series can be viewed and commented on. If any of you guys feel like taking a look, your input would be greatly appreciated. I chat with you guys more than anyone else on ES so I'd love for you all to see it. 3 episodes so far or if you don't have time for all that, just view the trailer and see if it sparks your interest.

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=299679

Haha, nice promo Chach...I'll check it out in a bit!

Pissed I missed this one. From the comments it sounds like the Couture/Nog fight was awesome. I'll definitely have to look for that on the replay.

I think Fedor's next fight after Barnett will be coming in an octagon.

I think that's the direction they are going to try really hard for. I would love to see that!

ArmageDan

Dude, my fiance sent me that last night and I was laughing my butt off! That's one of my favorite gifs to come from that fight yet. When they show the meteor then a pic of Dan's cheesy smiling face I was dying :hysterical:

My other favorite gif is the one where they plant Henderson's face on Hasselhoff in a clip of Night Rider...so freakin hilarious.

Alright fellas (and Keastman),

Let's get a pool going.

That's a good question. The top guys in each class seem to be on such a different level than everyone else at their weight.

Shortests: I'm thinking it might be Silva if he fights Henderson again in the near future. Henderson is probably the only one coming up who I see having a decent chance against Silva.

If the UFC somehow snags Fedor, I would take him over Lesnar.

I would love to see Penn go down too...

Longest - I'm thinking GSP and Machida

So sorry, I can't really pick!! I'm so indecisive. Like you, I'll have to think about it a little bit more, but those are the thoughts that first come to my mind...

I got my new wallpaper from one of those.

Well, I'm glad someone's found that site useful