RedskinNutt

throw some details out if you can...haven't caught a PPV for years...

he could have this s eating grin on his face, you know, "saying it but not saying it".

correction, HAS self destructed. It's really sad because apparently, this guy has been given the ball on numerous times because someone at WWE saw something in Jeff. It's not like he's a fringe talent enhancement player/jobber. He's been a tag team champ, an IC champ, a world champ...his merch sells like crazy and the kids/chicks love him. the road and his pace must have taken a toll on his body...you guys are right, he won't be around for long...sad.

yeah, the anaconda vice is a much better move. most of the time, you can see the victim bracing or semi blocking the GTS with his hand...ungood

That'll be (excuse the pun) the showstopper...5 star match prediction.

I'm sure Ric woulda even loved to have had Paul Roma save him. Who beats up a 59 year old man? That's just wrong.

Heard he was a pretty decent indy guy, but man, he blew me away with that tag match with Rey. One thing though, that double knee move off the top rope..he landed right on his knees...crazy....I squirmed just watching him land.

I don't know about you, but I HATE Cryme Tyme. Zero mic skills Average ability in the ring An "over" gimmick because the WWE fans must be absolute rubes. Vince's Next Gen version of Harlem Heat is pitiful...didn't Damon and Keenan Ivory Wayans run with this act back in "In Living Color"?

If you can do it, go for it. The closest I ever got was 10 rows back at Starrcade (Hulk vs Sting) back in the day- and it was a hoot. You'll get a "better appreciation" for what these guys go through...plus, you never know, they might throw someone your way for some hardcore "clubbering" also, you might here a wrestler or two call out their next move...always fun to hear that:doh:

I saw Steamboat and Snuka tag from time to time in the old WWF, that would've been a fun team to watch. Never caught Steamer and Youngblood in the old NWA/MidAtlantic Sabu and Van Dam vs Daniels and Style would be a 5 star match. They could still probably pull it off. I was a huge fan of the Killer Bees and Islanders (back when the WWF could afford to have mid card TAG TEAMS).

Styles and Daniels were very good, but their lack of longevity hurts them when you talk about all time greats. I liked LAX, seemed like a more credible version of "Cryme Tyme":doh: Konnan as the mouthpiece was classic. Not a fan of AMW...didn't know why...they had a hardcore "Smoking Guns" thing going that just seemed dated.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: OMG, forgot about them. I actually dropped off wrestling during their hey day, but I did catch them from time to time. Super smart and talented. Was there a better mid 90s stable than the Dangerous Alliance?

Ratings my man, ratings. Or titles are simply something to just further a story line. Titles mean nothing nowadays. Back in the day it was something to be the WORLD CHAMP, now, there are three "World" champs in one promotion, so you know it means nothing. Why put the belts on such a young team like Rhodes and DiBiase anyway? Because there's no one else credible and there are, like, 3 tag teams anyway. Might as well give it to these two young guys in hopes that they can develop without being exposed and to possible further a stroyline (Orton coming back to be their "Flair".

The second I saw the Demos introduced, and think I dry heaved. The outfits were fine, but my gawd, if this was the WWF's answer to Hawk and Animal, they could've at least got guys in shape. Ax and Smash were fat ***es. The Powers of Pain were a better group, but they didn't last long for some reason in the WWF. They were the perfect Warriors wannabe, since that was their whole angle in the NWA. I watched both promotions, but leaned towards NWA/WCW because it seemed (oh my gawd, am I going to say this)...real :doh: . Flair COULD lose, and did from time to time, while it was always Hogan starting strong- getting beat- hulking up- body slam/ leg drop- posing for years...rinse and repeat. Plus, NWA didn't have as many roid monsters...NWA wrestlers looked like "athletes".

No problem with the Dudley's being thought of as a good/above good tag team, and the "decoration" thing means that they can carry the ball for a promotion, which is a testament to their ability and appeal- but later in their WWE/F years they were a clown act (only about tables and the WASSUP drop), and their WCW tag team title reign was under the WWE/F flag, so it can't really be considered a "true" reign (but that's semantics). I didn't mind Strike Force (Santana and Martel) but I would've loved to see how far the Can-Am Connection (Martel and Tom Zenk) would've gone in the WWF if Zenk didn't high tail it. I would take out Rock and Sock since they weren't a true "regular" tag team. I would add Michael PS Hayes and Jimmy Jam Garvin (or Terry Bam Bam Gordy)...FREEDBIRDS BABY!!!!

Catch an old video of their matches back then...the arena woud be deafening due to the amount of screaming girls. Arm Drag (SCREAM)...hip toss (SCREAM)...stand still (SCREAM LOUDER). It was wild. Saw an old Windham/Flair match that was non stop action and cheering for 60 minutes...insane. You do two arm drags nowadays, and you start getting the BORING chant.

Rock n Roll and Midnight Express...one of the greatest feuds (in terms of pure performance value) I've ever seen. I liked the RnR, but the double dropkick from two lightweights as a knockout finisher seems so hack now. Morton could bump for the entire match, just take a pounding, and tag in Mr. Charisma, Robert Gibson for the super crowd pop.

Exactly, that's why they were such a bonus for promoters who could have them. They didn't need the belts to get over, so they could have others teams establish themselves, win belts, etc. Then, if business is slow, you throw the Warriors into a feud to win the belts and get the crowd going. After I sent out the email, I did think about Arn and Tully, who would be right there next to the Midnights and above Arn and Ole. I also felt bad forgetting any combination of the Freebirds that had Michael Hayes. Very similar to the Road Warriors, these guys could get over without winning a belt and had perhaps one of the greatest guys on the mic (Hayes). My 6-10 would be: Arn and Tully Freebirds Arn and Ole Rock and Roll Express Midnight Rockers Funny, I'm remembering the old Jim Crockett Sr. Memorial Cup Tournament that the NWA would have each year. Even though it was supposed to highlight the best tag teams in the world, with the exception of the Warriors winning the first one (in an apparent move to award them with something other than the titles), SINGLE WRESTLER who happened to be in team won the next ones (Nikita and Dusty, followed by Sting and Luger)

I agree with Sith...did a double take when I saw the Demos mentioned! The accolades, the first team to wear the paint, the gimmick that was over for 20 years, all of it makes the Roadies the greatest of all time. The fact that they could be the most over team in a federation despite not holding the belts for long periods of time show that they were the ****! My short list of the greatest tag teams of all time (post 1980): Road Warriors Steiners British Bulldogs Hart Foundation Midnight Express (Lane and Eaton)

I agree with you wholeheartedly GP. It's just not the same anymore. You had good workers who could either work the mic or had a manager who could work the mic. The feud were straight up, and ended with a big pay day event. Now, you have JBL "running over" Cena...wtf??? Like I mentioned earlier, I just loved the Horsemen driving around a parking lot and jumping Dusty, breaking his arm. I loved Luger turning on the Horseman when he wouldn't use a chair on Dusty. I loved the New Hart Foundation joining forces because they felt America screwed them over. The angles were clean cut, sometime with a huge surprise turn that somehow, no one saw coming. Nowadays, people see turns a mile away. When Luger got jumped at a Clash, and got busted open, it meant something. Weeks later at teh GAB, Luger has Flair in the rack, and is bleeding from that earlier wound, causing the MD Athletic Board to "stop the match" and give Flair the win....it all meshed together and culminated. Now it's "I bumped into you, so now we must fight!"

Here you go: http://www.nwalegends.com/ road trip for the old school wrestler heads!

Just read the report in insidepulse. HBK and Y2J had a decent match, as did Cena/ JBL. Everything else was middle of the pack. It still feels weird seeing "Great American Bash" and a WWE logo next to it...surprised they never brought back "Starrcade." I either read the rags or just watch Raw nowadays for the results...they don't even hide them anymore...it's pretty much a highlight reel...saves me $30+ a shot.

Yes, I'm getting down with my bad self...RIP Sweet Saphire!!!!!!!! Gawd, this was an awful song...someone not only sat down and wrote this, but someone walked into a studio and sang this.

That was such a sad time. That was all about Vince's ego, Dusty needed the money and moved over, Vince wanted to show Crockett/ WCW and Company who the real deal was, and made Dusty wear f'n polka dots and dance in the ring with SWEET SAPHIRE! Even though, when that dumb @$$ entrance song came on, I did feel like boggying a little.

Yeah, I never got tired of the NWA/Mid Atlantic shows, because they had such a large roster when you combined the territories, you always saw someone different. And I absolutely loved the Jim Crockett Sr. Memorial Cup Tag Team Tourney- if Vince brought that back it might revitalize the stagnant tag team scene