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34 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Forbes was thrown out on a sinking island in the same way that Howell was. This year I doubt we put Forbeson AJ Brown and leave Butler single high. That was criminally bad play calling. We have small opportunistic speedy corners. I bet we'll see a lot of cover 3, with one safety sticking around the middle occasionally blitzing, but covering the hashmarks deep, to keep WRs in front of them and allow the corners to attack under the route.

 

We should also finally have an actual pass rush in Quinns defense. 

To this day I'm genuinely curious who's brilliant idea it was to put a 6'0 170lb rookie CB who excels in zone coverage in one-on-one man coverage against a 6'1 225lb WR who is one of the elite NFL players at the position...and then was surprised by the results.

I'm still a bit dubious about Forbes, but he was absolutely railroaded by incompetent coaching.

18 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen said:

 

OK you just triggered a Usual Suspects Quote Fest....

 

"GIMME THE F***IN KEYS, YOU F***IN C*****KER MOTHERF****ER BLEEEEAARRRRGGHHH!!"

 

Sorry, I had to get that off my chest...

17 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

My favorite lol:

 

"Hand me th' keez you ****sucker, whut th' fuuuuuhhh..."

Random factoid I read about that scene. Apparently most of it was improvised and the reason they all started cracking up, couldn't keep straight faces, and started joking around wasn't because it was in the script...it was because while they were in that room filming, Benicio del Toro kept farting and stinking up the whole place.

2 hours ago, EmirOfShmo said:

 

"Make no mistake, ladies and gentlemen. If you pay porn stars hush money and then fraudulently modify your business records, take highly classified national security documents and refuse to give them back while lying about having them, or conspire to illegally overturn a lawful federal election...then they will come for you too!"

25 minutes ago, Simmsy said:

 

Ultimately, I don't think it was doubling down that ended her, I think it was how patronizing she was about about the whole thing. Like everyone else has the problem and this is normal behavior. So long, Kristi.

True, though I think what ended her overall was just being plain stupid. What kind of moron thinks "I bet telling a bunch of strangers the story of how I murdered a puppy will make them gravitate towards me"?

And we know it wasn't a mistake or some rogue editor, because apparently she pushed for it to be included in opposition to her publisher. From what I read she actually tried to include it in her previous book but they managed to talk her out of it. This time she was just not to be deterred.

She wanted the whole goddamn world to know that she shot a puppy in cold blood. Because that's the kind of **** that people love in their leaders.

21 minutes ago, KDawg said:

I watch a lot of football. Like… a lot. College, pro and high school.

 

I have never heard of this person. I didn’t even know they were on this team. 

He's the Keyser Soze of wide receivers.

1 hour ago, redskinss said:

 

Hey don't hold back man, say how you really feel.

 

Everyone here knows that I am a sublime example of restraint and judiciousness in all of my posts. 

1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

You can tell a lot about a person by what they carry.

My EDC pistol:

13 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said:

No, I am not saying that at all. I just think Milton is underrated. He has had an injury history, and that has hurt him. He has a great arm, can extend plays, elude pressure, etc. A good dual-threat QB. He is underrated is my main point.  

I dunno. I think he was drafted around where he should have been. I watched several Vols games this season (my father is an alum and huge Vols fan) and I was never really impressed with him outside of being a big dude and having a howitzer attached to his shoulder. But to each their own.

I think the idea of Milton being the backup and Maye being 3rd string is pretty dumb though. 

Just now, tshile said:

Any person I’ve ever met that brags about carrying a gun, winds up being someone I don’t think should be carrying a gun. 
 

it seems to be a pretty reliable flag that someone probably shouldn’t be carrying a gun. 

100%. The responsible gun owners I know who conceal carry...you'd never know that they carry or even own a gun for the most part, unless you got to know them and the topic came up. The people I've met who brag about carrying a gun are basically just doing it for attention and usually don't even bother to go to the range to make sure they can actually use the thing.

21 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

42 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said:

Come on how many first round QB's fizzled.  A lot. 

 

Let's see what happens with Milton. He has good accuracy down field. He has had injuries, but I just think he is going to surprise some people. I do. 

Are you saying that a 3rd overall pick is a bust after 2 rookie minicamp practices?

29 minutes ago, frontline205 said:

So I watched QB's all year, mainly Caleb Williams and Drake Maye in prep for Ron RIvera's last year being a clown show (which it was). I even came on this forum and got roasted for saying I think Drake Maye was anointed too early and most people are coasting off his 2022 projections. I even pointed out that most QB's who trend down in college rarely work out when they finally get to the NFL. Ultimately I think Drake Maye is a good prospect and hope he can do well in NE. However I saw this QB we drafted Jayden Daniels make huge strides all season, and improve significantly.

I saw someone with an amazing deep ball, accuracy and a raw athleticism not often seen in this polished a passer. Then I heard stories about his work effort and how he has a tendency to take coaching well. Then after watching the tape I saw a quick release, great footwork, and a guy who scans the field fairly quick. Some amazing mechanics really. I'm actually more excited for Jayden then I was a few months back. I see a pocket passer who forces defense to account for his speed and ability to get to the outside. Barring injury which he has no history of, I don't see many flaws in his game. Even the sack to pressure ratio's in the tapes I watched showed that a lot of times there was no one open on the side of the field he was moving towards. I think his sack to pressure ratio number were indicative of him relying on his run ability to bail him out, and waiting to long to run or get rid of the ball out. Because usually when he took off there was a positive gain but often as well he gave the defenders time to contain his rush lanes. 

I also see that yes he took a lot of bad hits, but while watching his tape there were also many times I thought he should've slid only for him to keep running and often picking up another 10-20 yards. Now these are big issues, and in the NFL they will need to be fixed. However I feel our coaches will have that worked out and we have a QB who can pick up the coaching relatively easily. 

I'm just glad that a lot more people are coming around to this pick who were rooting for someone else to be picked, and hope that I'm right about everything I think is there in his game. 

Dude, paragraphs. 

Reading about that dog thing, it sounds way more like she was in a rage and took it out on a couple of animals than made some sort of moral decision based on the safety of her kids.

She was angry at the dog for messing up a hunt (why would you bring a completely untrained young dog on such an important hunt?) and then going after a neighbor's chickens (she didn't put the dog in a kennel on the way home - saying she didn't care if it jumped out and died) so she got home and was apparently furious so she then took the dog, shot it, then came back and grabbed the goat (which they'd had for years) and shot it.

And she's...bragging about it. What a pycho.

5 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

 

The difference here is, nobody knew Pace had died lol...they SHOULD have known, but Repubs were apparently too inept to run a competent primary.

30 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

He's apparently a fantastic WR coach and enjoying a long NFL career.

 

I bought a TV at Best Buy from "Kelvin" two weeks ago.

What the hell is Hankerson teaching them, how to drop routine passes every game?

1 hour ago, EmirOfShmo said:

 

****ing psychopaths.

I don't really care what Maye does in NE one way or the other. They're not in our division, they're not in our conference. The only time we'd face them is every once in a while during the regular season and if we got to the Super Bowl.

I actually hope he does well until he faces us in either of those two scenarios. Then I obviously want him to go down in flames.

1 hour ago, mac8887 said:

I wish brissette got to play more last year, he looked soooo good when he played. I’ve always liked Brissette and right now I’d agree that he is better than Marriotta. Though, I actually am glad that Marriotta is the back up here, I think he has come to terms with what he is and his role. You can bet that Brissette is gunning to start, where as Marriotta is here to be a backup and help mentor the rookie qb.

IMO it's usually not a good idea to judge a backup based on what he did in spot duty in a few games. Yes, he played well, but also absolutely none of those teams game planned for him during the week. We've seen this happen many times in the past and people often seem to get caught up in it.

Brissett isn't a horrible QB, but he's a journeyman backup for a reason. He's pretty mediocre overall. 

2 hours ago, lovemaskins said:

You still seem to be a bit sensitive, but I’ll address… I used “hunch” because based on what I read, JD far and away out graded Maye, but as you stated, teams at times overvalue mechanics etc… meaning a team likely selects the wrong player by overly relying on analytics and metrics (your words) where they should have used more subjective reasoning, “hunch,” to pick a Mahommes or a Herbert.  
 

Also, I’m glad you appreciated my using EQ words, because AP and Quinn also repeatedly talked about how cool JD is, and the natural leader he is, etc.., contrasted by what I’ve read, that Maye seems a bit uptight or nervous at times, who knows whether that’s good or bad for Maye or if JD’s coolness is a mute point after he throws 2 picks…

 

I hope they both are amazing young QBs and better men. 

Wait, where did I use the words analytics and metrics? I was talking about overly weighing things that are fixable with practice (footwork, mechanics) vs focusing on traits and how that sort of thing led to plenty of people missing on Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert.

As far as Maye being nervous or uptight, I think you're mostly repeating what someone else on here has said recently (can't remember who). Never really heard anything like that from any people who analyzed him or scouted him online. From what I read they both come across as natural leaders with Daniels being more quiet and laid back and Maye being more vocal and extroverted.

9 minutes ago, lovemaskins said:

Of course, everyone makes mistakes, but ignoring the obvious trait weaknesses (footwork, release, accuracy, erratic tendency; demeanor, leadership, coolness, etc.) while using level of competition as a backdrop, to then select the other guy, like Maye (he’s not the first or last) increases risk substantially for a GM and head coach.  And your only real justification for the choice is a hunch, hard to defend being wrong to you’re boss…

 

However, if all my data and analysis prove to be wrong, although i followed my process, either my process is flawed, which initiates incorporating lessons learned, or just chalk it up to bad luck and try again.  But at least I have a hill I’m willing to die on.  As you say though, only time will tell…

 

 

Who said anything about just a hunch besides you? The Chiefs didn't trade up for Mahomes based on a hunch, the Bills didn't draft Allen and the Chargers didn't draft Herbert based on a hunch. Those were all guys with elite traits who also had sloppiness to their games - accuracy, footwork, mechanics, etc. That's why other QBs went before them.

Also, I love how you just randomly threw out demeanor, leadership, and coolness as if either Daniels or Maye lacked those things.

30 minutes ago, lovemaskins said:

Which is exactly why, since we ARE fans, we should mostly (unless obvious incompetence occurs), from a fans’ perspective, allow our highly paid NFL professionals to do their jobs, and trust they have done it thoroughly, translating into the decisions we saw on draft day.  I find it rather amusing that some posters on this board are still so stubbornly locked into their stance on Maye, it’s done, move on….
 

I’m sure AP and Kingsbury saw the mechanics delta early in the process which made picking JD the no-brainer they said it was. So… GREAT! Our staff did job one, yay!, now on to job two… QB development.  Still lots to do.

I don't really care that much about Maye anymore, though I'll be curious to see what ends up happening with his career. I wanted him over Daniels, but it's done now.

That said, you do realize that even highly paid NFL scouts and coaches still make mistakes right? Overvaluing mechanics and footwork and undervaluing traits and other factors is the biggest reason that guys like Mahomes, Allen, and Herbert slipped.

Hopefully that won't be the case this time and we made the right choice.

52 minutes ago, profusion said:

The window of accuracy is smaller in the NFL, and I keep thinking back to Belichick's draft-day analysis that Maye was missing on throws to narrow windows that are considered "open" in the NFL.

 

I'm not rooting against the guy (unless he's playing the Commanders). It's just that maybe we're starting to see why Peters wasn't interested in him.

I think this could potentially be an issue for both players, especially with regards to 2nd level tight window throws down the middle, for different reasons. For Maye because of his inconsistent accuracy and footwork/mechanics, and for Daniels because he didn't do it very much in college...it was much more often to the boundaries to one of his stud WRs. Now, we don't know if that was by design or that was him being hesitant to make those throws. We'll probably get a better idea of that once we see him in a live game situation.

If it was by design, then it's much ado about nothing. If it was Daniels just being naturally hesitant about doing it then that could be a bit more problematic because it would have to be coached out of him, as those throws are considered must-haves and routine for NFL QBs.

The aggression and willingness to make those sorts of throws was one of the things I really liked about Maye and reminded me of Allen.

I hope they don't rush him back. That 4 week timeline sounds bonkers. Let him rest for 3-4 months until he's fully healed and then, if everyone agrees, phase him in gradually. Him being on the field this year isn't the difference between going to the playoffs or not. 

10 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

Isn't Brissett proven to be a better passer and leader and competitor than Mariota? And by enough in all three areas to be considered a definite, though not a big, notch up overall in the role? 

 

I really haven't bothered to do any thorough examination there, it's just my basic take from what little invested attention I've paid to each over the years.

I think they're both pretty so-so passers. Both have pretty good arms, ok but not great accuracy. Leadership and competitiveness you might have me on Brissett, but not by a mile. Mariota is apparently a good teammate, but more of a laid back kind of personality.

So overall Brissett might be a slight upgrade but IMO it's sort of like comparing a 4 day old turkey sandwich with nothing on it to a 3 day old turkey sandwich with lettuce. Neither is going to make you happy but both will probably fill you up as a quick meal in a pinch.

4 minutes ago, profusion said:

 

Daniels should sit if his fundamentals (footwork) are as poorly developed as Maye's apparently are. However, what I was getting at is that the Pats have a viable short-term starter in Brissett, while the Commanders don't (in my opinion). You could say that the Commanders FO burned the lifeboats on this one by not resigning Brissett. 

 

I also think, based on my hazy memories of last year, that the Pats might have a worse offensive lineup than the Commanders, and that's saying something. Peters has put some key skill players in place to help out Daniels in the short term. I don't have the spare time to worry about what the Pats' FO is doing, but they weren't as active in FA, for sure.

There's not much difference IMO between Brissett and Mariota. They're both mediocre career journeyman QBs who have had a couple of good seasons interspersed with nothing. Both can be so-so starters, with Mariota being a slightly better runner and Brissett being slightly bigger to take more punishment.

And yes, you're right. The Pats have a really **** roster on offense. 

48 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Agree and said so as for that clip. 

 

My point was lol we are going to get those comps for years I gather.  Especially in this case where the narraitves seem clear that Peters was smitten with Daniels and I gather not so much Maye considering he had McCarthy ahead of him.

 

Back to Maye, I think it simply might take time with him.  He's going to be 22 this season. 

 

Yeah, agreed. And for the record I wasn't giving you a hard time for posting that clip (I know you said it was sketchy), I was just commenting further.

I'd actually be pretty surprised if Maye didn't look much less polished at this point than Daniels. Pretty much everyone knew that would likely be the case at first, even big Maye supporters.

27 minutes ago, profusion said:

The Commanders don't have that luxury and need a Week 1 starter.

Why? We aren't exactly in danger of going to the Super Bowl this season and we're in year 1 of a rebuild with a new FO, HC, and owner. 

I'm not saying Daniels should sit, just that this sentiment seems to come with no actual reasoning or evidence.