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16 hours ago, KDawg said:
Mac Jones’ slide attempt just caused himself an injury. Great decision but what in the name of all that is Holy was that?
Outstanding throw to Smith at the front of the pylon on the end zone comeback. That was text book.
Jones’ accuracy and poise stands out tonight.
My post Bowl game rankings might see him climb a bit.
That slide alone is enough to make me re-think my position on Jones. ouch.
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18 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:
@CurseReversedmy assumption is the team signs a bridge QB and drafts a QB either way. Bridge QB to win now and a drafted QB to take us next level when ready. Lance + Mariota or Lance + Tyrod even ...
That is a pretty solid plan and I would be happy with it but If they are going to go qb in the top half of the first and groom him, it makes a little more sense to just roll with kyle allen as the starter and pick up a much cheaper vet, on a one year deal, to round out the group. If they are going to go with the, sign a mid tier vet but groom a rookie strategy, I would rather they draft a mid round guy and use the first rounder on bpa. JMO
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3 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:
We absolutely have the time, patience is debatable, but getting into a panicked, win-now mode is what we've been doing for 25 years. We're in great shape right now.
The panic, win-now mode would probably be more akin to getting a expensive free agent, not something I am totally against btw. If they are going to draft a guy high, and already have a very strong defense and some pieces in place, it makes sense to not pick the riskiest guy out there, even if its a home run shot. Lance might have all the tools but he is still one of the riskiest of the prospects. For a team with nothing to lose that is not a bad play. For a team with a window of elite defense on the horizon, it makes more sense to go with the less sexy, more reliable guy. JMO.
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7 hours ago, Riggo#44 said:
5 years ago, probably. But the evolution of the game is going all of the best QBs now are very mobile--the only exceptions are Brady, Brees, and Rothliesberger--all of which are on their last legs. Just about every QB under 30 on PFF's rankings (not exact but a good overall barometer) can at least move well--if not serious running threats. There is a lot of Jackson and Allen to Lance's game. A Ravens-style running game would be a serious threat with our defense.
If we were starting from scratch I would probably agree to this. But we have a slightly different situation where we could plug and play a lot of qb's to be successful. I just dont know if this team has the patience or the time to wait for lance. I think mac jones is start week one type of guy and thats what I am looking for in the draft or FA. I would be happy with Lance if they picked him up so I am definitely not ant-lance here, just prefer the higher floor of Jones given our situation.
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1 hour ago, mhd24 said:
IF we lose on Sunday, we could potentially get the 7th pick in the draft. Otherwise, we're probably picking 11 if we lose (assuming none of the four below win)
Since we play last, root (see bolded for the following to happen to get as high a pick as possible if we lose...
Giants over Dallas
Lions over Vikings
Broncos over Raiders
Panthers over Saints
I'm rooting for a win, but we can get a pretty darn good player at 7-11 potentially.
Say the first 6 go...
1). Lax-Lawrence
2). Nyj-Wilson
3). Mia (from Hou)-Sewell
4). Atl-Fields
5). Cin-Chase
6). Phi-Smith
Do we take Lance? Trade up for Fields/Wilson? Take Pitts or Parsons? Go with slater potentially?
take mac jones over lance
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On 12/19/2020 at 10:53 PM, VaK9Trainer said:
Been watching a lot of Mac Jones. There's something about this kid. Call me crazy but I see a lot of Tom Brady in him. Great touch on the deep ball, Quick release and great pocket awareness. He's the guy I want us to draft!!
He has a calmness and instinct in the pocket that is hard to teach. This is the most important trait I Iook for in a QB. Not just movement in the pocket but the ability to still make quality throws within it, when big bodies are around. He might end up being the best qb in the draft besides lawrence. I wouldnt even be mad if they had to trade up a little to get him, but It would be very fortunate if they could get him outright in the first wherever they pick.
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Curl is such a gem, how did they find this guy? He might be one of the best SS's in the league right now. He looks that good.
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I am happy Cam has contributed but I think his hands are always going to be a problem. Looking at the Pittsburgh game, even the catches he did make looked awkward and he never seems to catch the ball smoothly. He is not a rookie either. If he hasn't learned these skills yet, its hard to imagine its going to click anytime soon.
Gandy Golden looks to have really great hands and I can't wait to see what he can do.
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2 hours ago, bowhunter said:
Complete with a Pittman4two quote hahaha He was the best.
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7 hours ago, Tarpon75 said:
I actually get to talk to him about that hit a couple years back at a pre-game rally in Nashville. He was still gushing over it, he lit up when I mentioned it. He said, I put him to sleep and laughed.Great guy to talk football with, very down to earth.I think you are right in regard to it being Quarles that he hit.
Thats awesome! I saw him at an airport in miami one time and said hello, but I was too starstruck to say anything other then HTTR. I wish I would have brought that up. I know he would appreciate fans remembering the small things like that that made him great. Glad to hear you were able to share that with him.
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On 12/4/2020 at 7:00 PM, Tarpon75 said:
Clinton used to “put em to sleep “ to quote him from a Tampa playoff game when he picked up a blitzing lb and laid him out. Maybe one of the best blocking backs of all time in the NFL.
If I remember correctly it was Sheldon Quarles or something like that. Still one of my favorite Portis memories. Even Portis was psyched after that hit, like he just scored a TD. haha
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17 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:
What are the chances that Morgan's move to the left side could offer a long term fix? It'd make it a lot easier to find a second starting OT.
I was just thinking this. Could be an ideal situation that allows the team to draft LB in the first and go mid round for right tackle.
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I get the argument that winning the division means nothing and it will most likely do more harm then good...Chase young has shown us how much better it is to suck big time if your going to suck, but I also can see it from the players and coaches point of view. There is a potentially elite defensive line group forming on this team and teams like the giants have got hot late in the season with just such a group and knocked off one of the best teams in history. They had an avg QB and a bunch of avg at best wideouts, who were all out of the league in a few years. So it can be done.
The one thing more then any other that has changed my perspective on this teams potential this year, is the emergence of Sweat. He looks like he could be just as good or better then young right now. His tools and ceiling are off the charts. This group of guys, if they get hot at the right moment, could be dominant enough to beat anybody.
Not saying its going to happen but its definitely possible.
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If I were Ron strategizing for the draft, I would be thinking that this team is going to feature the defense for the next ten years. And it could very well be one of the best. Sweat, Young, Payne, Allen etc are all that good, and that young.
IF that is going to be the case, maybe they don't think they need a great QB, just a good one. Maybe they can save some draft capital and find a middle round, or even a later first round guy that they think they can work with and build a winner.
Woudn't surprise me at all to see them take a flyer on a lesser prospect that has the intangibles they like, a culture guy. If it doesn't work they can just try again next year and not have lost much. They will always have Allen as a backup plan and it looks like they think he can give them a chance to win.
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On 5/14/2020 at 7:07 AM, stevemcqueen1 said:
The good news is that he can win strong outside leverage and get a couple of steps on vertical routes and he's got the talent to adjust to the ball and lay out for throws. Corners aren't going to be able to just sit on all the underneath stuff with him, he's a legitimate deep threat. That's a very real concern with guys who don't run fast.
He's got size too. He walls you off from the ball, especially on low routes and hitches/comebacks. His catch radius is high end and once he gets a rhythm with his qb and gets stronger, he'll be able to lean on a db and just pluck back shoulder bucket throws and field side low and away stuff.
The bad news is it looks like he really struggles with physicality through the stem. And he had a hard time getting a good release and winning inside leverage against decent press coverage. He's not that explosive or tricky off the line, and he needs to gather himself up a little to redirect. And his play strength doesn't match his size yet. This is where the tough transition from his lower level of competition really shows up. But you're right, he is twitchier than he looks. He exploded out of some of those breaks and he's got some nice tricks for selling a deep break to DBs that should get him open quickly enough to be useful in the intermediate game.
If he can get strong and get better at dealing with physical bump and run coverage, he could get good. The catch radius and talent for adjusting to downfield throws and the strong vertical element to his game are the foundation for a good outside receiver. It also helps him to be a #2 (at best) who isn't going to see a lot of shaded safety zones. I think he's basically just going to get single coverage while McLaurin is out there. And it will help him that Haskins is an instinctive thrower who will work with you on adjustments to exploit leverage issues that show up post-snap and place the ball at the adjustment you need to make. He's got a good chance to be productive here, this is a good situation for him.
I found it hard to judge his ability to handle press coverage and physicality because the refs really let guys hang all over him in most of his games. I think that they let a lot more PI calls go in these small school games. Especially with a man among boys like GG out there you can imagine why they would feel comfortable looking other way when some small school DB starts grabbing at him. This is one of the reasons I think he projects better then one might think looking at his play. He really was in a different environment than most of other prospects. It is going to be interesting to see how NFL CB's match up without being able hold and grab him.
I think they are going to find that he is a monster trained in the pits.
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I dont know how to embed videos but this is a cutup of gandy golden playing umass.
Been doing some homework on him and after watching this, I really believe he could be the biggest sleeper on the squad.
The thing about GG that I started to realize after watching a whole game as opposed to just highlights is that he essentially was used like we all used randy moss in madden when he was at his peak. They just lobbed the ball up to him deep on jump ball plays, no matter the coverage, and he consistently took the ball from whoever was on him. Everyone on the defense knows he getting the ball and more often then not he is being interfered with and held. it never mattered. He just dominated.
This guy never had an accurate or strong arm qb or and offense that did much to scheme him open. He was a one man wrecking crew that just ran down the field and took the ball over everyone and anyone.
When he gets the benefit of a modern offense, a qb with arm strength, and a chance to fly under the radar a bit, he is going to really surprise some folks.
High hopes for him. HTTR.
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On 4/11/2020 at 12:00 PM, KDawg said:
I was running down a bunch of scenarios. Did you miss that?
Though... if Burrow refuses (I don't think that's the case) then why not take Young and see what happens and try your hand at Lawrence next year?
Can anyone say that's not a possibility? The Bengals aren't very well constructed.
Won't matter. Dude played well against good receivers all season. Whether it's a 4.38, 4.48 or 4.5, dude has some film to back things up. He also has some very high end skills. I had him ranked fairly highly to begin with.
Aren't these pro days recorded? I'm betting teams are timing him themselves on the tape.
I think there is very little chance that someone trades with cincy and takes young. the reason is that there are probably teams who would be willing to trade for 1 overall for young and for burrow but there is little chance that the teams trading for young are going to give up as much as the ones trading for burrow. It is true that they might like the draft position better of detroit as a trade partner for chase but its hard to imagine that would outweigh the sheer volume of draft capital they might be able to get for a team trading up for burrow.
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(mod edit of OT, delusional, and rule violating content since you were told you not to post here again --no penalty, though)
Jumbo I made the post before this before I read your post. Message received
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1 hour ago, Llevron said:
This is why your argument is stupid. Its a fact that you cant charge anyone with collusion. Its also a fact that no one has been charged with anything resembling that yet because the investigations are on going. That doesnt mean there isnt prof. You are choosing to focus on your weak ass argument. I dont have to.
Im not going to waste my time proving you wrong if you cant use commonsense in your own argument.
Right, and this is all I have claimed since the very beginning. It has taken pages of text to even get anyone to acknowledge it. There has been nobody charged with collusion or anything resembling it. Whatever proof there might be or might not be, right now the outcome of this investigation is not certain. If nothing comes of it then given the resources allocated to it, it is a pretty strong indicator that the proof that some people think exists, might not. This is the hypothetical I proposed and it is not outlandish. We will see. Why everyone thinks I have made some baseless claims is beyond me. Maybe this is such an emotional issue that even the suggestion of possible outcome that does not support the past two years of countless collusion accusations and investigations, must be a scary thought. I understand.
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1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said:
I'm going to answer your question with the hope that you'll just stop after this.
If we pretend that we live in this magic fairy-land where a whole mess of people DON'T get found to have colluded, I will still think Trump and his minions are a pice of ****. There is more than enough to hate them for even if you throw out all Russia-related things. And would the investigation and money spent have been worth it? Absolutely! There has been at least enough stuff shown to SUSPECT the President may have been doing some shady things with regards to Russia. i would say it has been a far more useful than an investigation that ended up proving the President got a blow job. Or about the million different things that the government has wasted time and money on regarding Hillary and other Democrats. And before you try to write me off as just another Liberal, you should check out my posting history.
Now stop.
I appreciate it. That is the most thorough explanation I have received. I think we are going to find out soon what sort of fairy tale world we really live in. I do not know why its such a vile thing for me to post about the possibility of no collusion when as of right now that is the case. Why are dissenting opinions so threatening? Why must I stop? I have not made any assertions that were even that outlandish. I just asked a hypothetical question about a possible outcome of the investigation and made a vaild assertion that there is currently nobody guilty of collusion.
I will stop but not because I think that I should. If I had the energy it would be a great thing for there to be some diversity of opinions here.
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16 minutes ago, Llevron said:
You have proven multiple times in just 12 hours that it would be a waste of my time to take you seriously. I mean I have links ready to go for you, contradictions to most of the same dumb ass claims you keep making over and over, and prof - verified prof - that some level of collusion happened between the Trump camp and Russia and I have high ranking government officials agreeing with me. With prof lol. Hell I can even use your own dull-witted logic to show how stupid your argument really is. I literally only need to use your own words in the last 2 pages to prove how dishonest (or dumb, you make the distinction not me) your posts are. You aint the first, you wont be the last. Its a cake walk at this point.
Your colors are clear for all posters here to see. And we see it weekly. You are nothing new.
easy example
The above is a simple lie you tell like its a joke. Your entire argument is made up of "facts" like the above. This is why your argument is invalid. You have no intellectual honesty. Or you are dumb enough to believe this nonsense. Either is disqualifying.
You have. You have. What does Mueller have? You have Opinions and conjecture friend, and links to other people with opinions. You say you can prove me wrong then do it.
Show me where somebody has been charged with collusion. that is the only argument I have made.
Nobody has proven me wrong. Maybe that will change but as of now there is nothing.
I like how you manage to call me dumb multiple times without disproving a single thing I said.
Its ok though. I dont think your dumb. I dont think anyone in here is dumb. Just emotionally compromised. I still love you.
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18 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said:
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Doesn't Fox and Limbaugh always brag about their ratings? (They do)
I would like to hear your take on the Atlantic article linked above.What are twitter and googles ratings? Bet they gotta be big. Do you think they are bias in how they choose to censor or control information?
Anyway. the article:
Quote“The ‘no collusion’ mantra is simply a non sequitur,” Jackson said during Manafort’s sentencing hearing on Wednesday, referring to Manafort’s attorneys’ claim that Mueller had found no evidence of collusion with Russia. “It’s also not accurate because the investigation is ongoing.”
It basically proves my point. They are basically admitting that they have not proven collusion yet but they have information regarding manafort that could qualify, the investigation is ongoing. I have never asserted that they would not have any proof only that they have not shown any yet. IF additional proof comes to light, specifically what this article references then I would have to change my premise. As of right now Manaforts crimes DO NOT prove collusion.
Why not take a look at what Manafort was convicted of? Why just hear the word russia and assume it implicates trump? WHo was he working for at the time of his crimes? What was the situation? The information might surprise you.
13 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:Whoo boy, hanging onto the "media is liberal" trope, still?
wowza... we have truly entered the twilight zone if people do not know this.
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27 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:
If that's all he can prove then that's all he can prove. It won't change my mind based on the evidence available now because what somebody knows and what somebody can prove beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law are two different things. There is also the possibility that it shows clear collusion/conspiracy but GOP congress will never impeach so it pretty much dies there. It's not likely Trump would ever go to trial on this. They will cover it up and defend just as you are doing now.
The real question is what will you do if it is proven? Defend, obfuscate, play semantics and blatantly ignore the truth, which you are readily doing now? We all know you won't hold him accountable if it is proven. So the questions you should be asking are to yourself. Things like:
Do I really care about truth and justice?
Will I adjust my beliefs in accordance with the facts presented to me?
Am I a person of integrity or just a blind partisan hack?
Straight from Rush Limbaugh's mouth to CurseReversed's keyboard.
Good question and thanks for at least attempting to answer my original question. There are a lot of ongoing investigations that will shed more light on what really happened. mueller Is not the only one investigating circumstances surrounding this. If Mueller Indicts trump then he will have his chance to defend himself against the charges. I honestly dont know what I will think until i see the details but if there is enough evidence that can be proven I will have to hold him accountable.
I have not really done any of the things you suggested. If you note I have not tried to prove that he is innocent only that he has not been proven guilty of collusion nor has anyone else... yet.
Amazingly this seemingly obvious statement sounds outrageous to everyone. I wonder why?
Yes it was rush limbaugh that made me state the obvious. Damn him and the other 1% of conservative voices available in the 99% liberal dominated information space.
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1 minute ago, Llevron said:
Some of his lawyers are already looking for their next gig, so thats the biggest, most recent sign. Im not sure that it means much though. There is still atleast one case that is under seal that we know next to nothing about. One would assume that has alot to do with the subject matter but we wont know until its available to us.
Also note: Dude just said "If anything, Manafort implicated Democrats" while he has spent so much energy talking down the ties between Russia and Trump. That right there tells you all you need to know. It invalidates anything he has to say going forward.
Did you read the article I quoted? I am referring to information that is right there. But of course feel free to try and invalidate all the things that I have said because you disagree with one particular statement I made, that is a lot easier then having to address them honestly.
This is the level of logic that we have been reduced too. I have had to repeat the same basic facts over and over again and they are plain to see. I dont know how many different ways I can say that 2+2 does not equal 5 before It becomes obvious that it does not matter what the facts are.
2021 Comprehensive Draft Thread
in The Stadium
Posted · Edited by CurseReversed
I was into mac jones initially but I am coming around to the same type of thinking. The Eagles game brought it home even more. Watching how much impact Hurts had on that offense really said a lot. The situation the WFT is in, it really would be a slam dunk to get a guy who can make plays with his feet, and generate offense without being some sort of pocket system mastermind. The, less mobile, system type player, is a longer shot to find and takes longer to mataure, and it gets longer every day when guys like Chase are coming out to make it even harder for any qb to sit back there and sling it.
This team needs an elite back and a decent, athletic QB who can use his legs and they are in business to compete for a superbowl for the next few years.