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By most accounts, Maye was thought to be pretty raw in some areas and might benefit from some time watching. But he had a great "measurables."

So then the Pats take a guy who is more raw has even more impressive measurables. 

Two young qbs not doing the little things right, but one of them is throwing the ball further and harder and is bigger... it's a good way to get the beat guys rumbling and writing clickbait and even a better way to destroy Maye's confidence.

Extremely likable.

Has fought through some stuff. 

I love it. 

This is not RG3 all over again as a person.

Not corny, not fake.  All about the ball. 

Love his attitude and personality -- you could tell he was pumped.  

Joe Burrow meets Lamar Jackson. Might take a while to get there -- week 3 maybe?

1 minute ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

Imo if Maye played for LSU they would have had a better season than they did and if Daniels played on UNC people wouldn’t know who he was. 

Maye was scared to even play in the SEC.

De-committed from Bama once he saw their QB class.

And I will take all of this back if we draft him! Just having fun.

Hail!

2 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said:

Tiny baby Daniels, or a hulking chad from North Carolina?

 

Neither can consistently hit what he's aiming at.

Offensive linemen can pick up Jayden and throw him 50 yards into the end zone. How come no one mentions that aspect of his game?

4 minutes ago, ST_DaGoat21 said:

I love when people wear sunglasses inside.  What a tool bag.

Okay Boomer.

2 minutes ago, sinews said:

One thing I can't get over is that every time DQ talks about the qualities he values in a player (holistically, not a specific position), it just screams Drake Maye. We'll see what wins out, I'm sure the selection will be based on a multitude of factors and many of which we don't have access to as fans/observers.

 

Just hope they get it right. 

That quote screams Daniels as well. 

4 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said:

 

This jives with my personal experience. I met St. Brown's father at a local bar in southern california a few years ago. Their family is from SoCal. We were watching a Lions game, and he was really concerned about how Detroit's staff was using him then. This was early in Amon-Ra's rookie year. He lamented his son getting drafted by Detroit.

 

Worked out pretty well overall, I'd say.

 

Trust me, if you had no team allegiance like we do, and you were a young man getting tours of facilities and places to live.... Ashburn would not be high on list.

50 percent of the league probably wants to be in LA, Las Vegas, or Miami. 

It all works out in the end. 

5 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

This feels like Bryce Young again for different reasons. I know they have different builds/games/etc. I mean simply from the stand point that their size was an obvious red flag from the jump and turned into an immediate reality. 
 

I hope I’m wrong. I enjoy being one of the bigger homers on this site. I was here when this organization broke @Cooleyfan. Nobody is safe. 😆

To be fair, Bryce Young is playing for the biggest dumpster fire in the NFL. 

7 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

I’m sure I sound like Colin Cowherd, but man - JD was just on NFLN, and he just doesn’t ooze leadership to me.  Not a bad guy, but just more flashy and me oriented than I prefer.

 

Am I a boomer?

Yes.

He'll be fine.

Just because he's not one of those "firm handshake leader of men" types doesn't mean he won't command respect.

Also, no matter who we draft, if you hate it, take solace from this --

I'm reasonably sure he's going to throw for 5000 yards and run for 1500 in his rookie season.

Okay, maybe just 4000 and 1000.

Just now, Going Commando said:

 

I'm suspicious that we heard so much about them because the Giants desperately want Drake Maye and have fed a mountain of bull**** groupthink to a draft media that is incompetent and unable to see through it.

Yep. Those geniuses have fooled the overwhelming majority of coaches and scouts into thinking Daniels is a better pro prospect.

The same geniuses that gave Daniel Jones a massive deal even though there were no other bidders out there.

Unless... it all started then.

Playing Chess not Checkers!

Competitor!

Firm handshake!

You'd want this kid to marry your daughter!

Comes from a great family!

Just because he wasn't asked to do it in college doesn't mean he can learn on the job in the NFL!

Small hands, but huge heart!

2 minutes ago, Ghost of said:

With the exception of his actual athletic ability, Brock Bowers has horrendous genetics. Dude looks like he's 35-38 already.

I know. It's hilarious. You would pick him last in a pickup game and then get dunked on.

5 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

As an observation - it's so interesting how things changed over the draft season. I know the media guys are usually behind the FO and once the FO catches up on tape and scouting, the boards in the media start shifting to reflect that reality.

 

But going into this season and really up until about 4-6 weeks ago, it was all about Caleb and Maye being the 1a and 1b.

 

Even at the beginning of the off-season, mock drafts had Daniels outside the Top 10. Many said he could get up into the Top 5 potentially.

 

Then around 6-8 weeks ago Daniels gained more momentum, and it's just bizarre that we're sitting here today with him as the presumptive pick, and LITERALLY - every single person saying Daniels to the Commanders says that they don't have any intel but just what they're hearing is expected.

 

Everyone says our FO has been tight-lipped. Even the local beat guys are just making educated guesses at this point.

 

So how did we go from Maye being a lock to Daniels being a lock, at a time when everyone making these prognostications admits they have no intel from the team?

 

Just a fascinating thing to observe, and something to come back to if, in fact, our pick is Maye.

It's been more than 4-6 weeks.

And it happens all the time.

The truth is the real serious work on players doesn't seriously begin until long after the season ends.  

And there were definitely some former execs in the media -- Randy Mueller for one -- who have been saying for months that teams would fall in love with JJ once they dug in.

2 minutes ago, NoVaSkins21 said:

In 2012, they were locked in on RG3 with the trade, but there's not guarantee that's it's going to be Daniels for sure.  Maye is very much in play 

As is JJ.

This time last year 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/priscos-final-2023-nfl-mock-draft-will-levis-lands-in-houston-at-no-2-as-five-qbs-go-in-round-1/

1 hour ago, clskinsfan said:

Mayes work ethic and love of the game have never been questioned by anyone that I can find. You have a link to some of that stuff by chance?

Only thing I saw was some scout -- anonymous of course -- saying Drake de-committed from Bama when he saw who he was competing against and that bothered him.  And that Drake  hasn't gotten better in college in the little areas. 

It's nonsense. Clearly all these guys work hard.

And people always forget how young they are and how much pressure they're under. Dudes are all very impressive. 

Just now, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

 

 

followed by “JJ McCarthy is a good boy who’s crazy bout Elvis, loves horses, and America too”

 

This. 

All in on Daniels if no other reason than I am so sick of blogger boys jerking it to Drake Maye. Good Lord -- someone towel off the guys at the Ringer.

Of course, if we do take Maye, I'll be all in!

People see what they want to see. That much is clear.

Whoever we pick, I'm confident our new braintrust has done the work.

All you have to do is look at last year's mock drafts to know no one knows anything. So many people had Levis going 2! And not early mock drafts -- I'm talking the day before the draft.

I'll be fine with any of the three.  Daniels is an interesting case study.  People in the game -- coaches, scouts, etc -- seem to love him and see him as the consensus number two pick. Yet blogger boys who watch All-22 are in love with him. And they love to point out how young Maye is -- and he seems it in those interviews, so does JJ. I'm not so sure that's the selling point people think it is.  

Anyway, we'll see.

Exciting!

This time last year, a lot of mock drafters had Will Levis going two overall in their final mock drafts.

9 minutes ago, Dah-Dee said:

 

Is that Lance Reddick? Loved him in the John Wick movies. If we have any fans of the video game "Destiny," he was also the voice of Commander Zavala. Just a couple of the many many things he was awesome in. 

Great in the Wire and Bosch.

9 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

I can't believe I'm going to have to spend likely the rest of my life dealing with Pats fans celebrating Maye's career. 

I think there's a good chance whoever gets drafted by NE flames out.

Because it's a horrible situation.

Next to nothing on offense and an owner who wants his son to be deeply involved in everything after being told to STFU by Bill B for 20 plus years.

And because of the self-serving dynasty doc and all the stories about how Kraft crapped on Bill B to whoever he could, the fanbase is furious. I don't suspect there will be much patience for this new regime. 

Now the qb that goes to Minnesota... that's a different story.