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I know the Indians and Mexicans are kicking themselves thinking how their ancestors should have thought about building a wall hundreds of years ago.  It would have saved millions of their ancestors lives AND they would still have their land.

For all the people who "voted" for Trump and are now crying about not being able to work, about to lose homes, standing in lines for food assistance, and can barely put gas in their tanks.....  I wonder is this the way they believed he would "make America great again".

I wonder how they feel about him lying or not living up to his promise of making Mexico pay for this BS wall.  How ironic.....

While they were at them campaign rallies, they really thought things were gonna be better, but little did they know they would be voting themselves right into a stressful situation over a man who is infatuated with a damn wall.

2 hours ago, Boss_Hogg said:

Someone explain this

 

 

Ive seen this before in pro and college games.  I think each team has its own representatives on the opposing team's sideline.  I believe it has something to do with the fair use of each persons communication device/system.  I heard something like that years ago.  But in all NFL and big time collegiate games you will see at least two guys on the oppositions sideline with the other team's colors on.

2 hours ago, skinsfan35yrs. said:

so far 3 helmet to helmet non calls for Dallas

The only one they missed was number 54 of Dallas leading with the crown of his helmet.  The other two were legit hits.

2 hours ago, Gallen5862 said:

 Will other teams now decide to start doing helmet to helmet hits against the Cowboys in retaliation? How long will the NFL continue to allow the Cowboys to get away with their helmet to helmet hits? 

Maybe the league is paying Dallas back by allowing Dak to get face masked and not call it.  He got face masked against us and got face asked against the Saints tonight, both not called.

47 minutes ago, Stefanskins said:

But it’s not the number of penalties. Or the penalty yards (one 40 yard penalty doesn’t necessarily equal 8 5 yerd auto first downs ...or 4 holding calls) it’s more the timing of the calls and non calls in the context of the flow of the game. 

Like they said.  There is bad officiating all over the league, not just against us.

3 hours ago, mike42 said:

Please list the games of bad calls that won us the game like it did for Dallas.

 

Yes. I'm for the integrity of the game. I normally don't blame the officials for a loss. Sure, bad calls has went our way in some games, but not in the way it worked for Dallas. Did you honestly watch the entire game? When we came crawling back, the officials suddenly shorted a fuse. It was that bad. These penalties and no calls shaped the outcome of the game. Kinda like it worked for the Texans the week before...

 

I listen to both Doc Walker and Brian Mitchell's shows because these are two guys in which I have major respect for their football minds.  BOTH guys on their shows made it clear that officiating had absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of our game against Dallas.  They would even cut short calls of fans whining about the refs.  Brian Mitchell even made some even bigger points that I didn't realize.

He said for all of the conspiracy theorist, did they realize that the Skins aren't the most penalized team in the NFL?  Did they realize that Dallas had more penalties coming in to the Thanksgiving game than the Skins?  He also stated for everybody crying about the refs in our last game against Dallas, BOTH teams finished the game with the same amount of penalties.  We had 4 penalties for 70 yards, they had 4 for 75 yards.

Mitchell even defended the refs on the Jordan Reed non call that I heavily disagreed on until I listened to his reason and I went back and watched the play over again.  Mitchell stated that the refs were right for not throwing the flag against Dallas because the rule was established for players who strike with the CROWN of the helmet.  The Dallas defender did not do that.  He stated that the Dallas defender had his head up with and his palms up almost as if he was trying not to create the look of a personal foul.  Mitch was right.

Brian also stated that it was bad officiating all through the game and not one sided.  He brought up the point 3 times that the refs missed a face mask call that Dallas committed on McCoy, but they also missed a when Dak's face mask got snatched as well. 

In conclusion, I'm right in the same mindset of these former greats Doc Walker and Brian Mitchell.  The Dallas game was clearly not loss because of the refs and their ain't no damn conspiracy or bias against the Washington Redskin.  I trust their opinions because I saw what they saw.

48 minutes ago, BleedBNG said:

 

30-18-1

18 of those wins are off the Redskins

The tie was in '69 against the 49ers

I remember us playing them on thanksgiving through out my life, but I didn't realize we played them that many times.

8 hours ago, mike42 said:

After yesterday, I don't know what to believe anymore. I'm starting to agree with those who think things are bias, especially this game. I don't know what the officials are looking at and how they are missing these calls and why they threw the flags on some of it. It tend to work against us at the worst times possible. Very puzzling to me.

 

But if you think the officials mistakes didn't have a huge impact in this game, then you weren't watching the same game as me. I'm sorry, it was that obvious.

Ok so let's say the refs were bias against us and those calls and no calls against us hurt our chances to win...  Why not show the same type of energy when we win games because of bad calls against the opposing team???  We care about the overall integrity of the game right??

Nobody here was whining and crying when we won a couple games this year off of bad calls.  Can't expect everything to go your way and when it doesn't, it's all of a sudden a conspiracy and bias.....  But when we win because of it, "We played a great game"!!!!

6 hours ago, Wildbunny said:

 

Mike Florio and PFT had a good article regarding this:

 

 

We're 1-8 against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving.

 

We should know by now that the NFL can't allow America's team to lose on America's day...

I don't know their Thanksgiving day record, but I've seen them lose that game a couple times before.  So I doubt the NFL controls win/loss records of teams playing on that day.  If that was the case the Cowboys and Lions would be undefeated on turkey day.

2 hours ago, Wildbunny said:

WAsn't it a false starts on Harris?

 

I'm not sure but their DL kept on moving before snaps, looking aggressive to jump and draw many false starts from us...

Thats what good defensive coordinators do, train their guys to aggressively shift from side to side to draw the offense offside.  There's nothing illegal about that.  It's a smart strategy.

36 minutes ago, Reaper Skins said:

Before posting in here, i suggest you actually go back and read the entire thread.  Every few pages someone says basically the exact same thing you're saying here, then myself or someone else points out the flaw in the logic in regards to what the purpose of this thread is. 

 

 

For reference, here's a response from 2 pages back  

 

If you still disagree, fine.  No one's forcing you to come in here. Its just a database for me and others to log anything suspicious, unfair, or weird relating to the team.  I always try to provide links to articles to back up my claims, and whenever possible they include pics, video evidence, or even notes from the league themself admitting to calls being flat out wrong.

 

Bad things happening to other teams and bad thing happening to the Redskins aren't mutually exclusive events.  All in good fun.  Don't be that guy who talks over the whole movie pointing out about how unrealistic the plot is.

Some whine (tongue in cheek) and some whine because they really believe there is this bias and against only the Redskins and not any other team in all of sports, just us.  It's entertaining most times but actually sad other times.  Everybody has their own opinion and I have mine.  I've seen other teams get robbed worse than we have ever got robbed but some will either ignore or just conveniently choose not to  mention that.

So for those of us who sarcastically moan and groan about the ref being against us, I get it.  But for those who believe with all their heart that the refs and league are against only us for whatever reason or notion, that's sad.  But whatever helps you sleep at night.  Fact is, every team suffers and benefits from bad calls.  We just benefited from one the other day, that's how it goes.

2 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

Yep my apologies..wrong of me to accuse you of being a fantasy foosball player...so you don't believe in all whatsoever the NFL is fixed at all so the NFL can get who they want in the Super Bowl to make the money the NFL wants to make like WWE does...why did the ref not throw the flag in London when Crowder got his head ripped off going into the endzone while the ref was looking at the play happen.. how about the hold in Green Bay on Kerrigan that I mentioned... If I wrote everything down I would have a book..just saying.. I'm not trying to start an argument..have you seen the episode of Adam ruins everything about the NFL in the playoffs.. I was starting to get furious as I was watching it yelling at my wife to change it and the things he was coming up with he was talking about the playoffs when the Giants were in Green Bay and I thought he was total BS and I don't know it's all confusing it's definitely different football from the 70s and 80s... I have noticed a major difference this year with officiating for the Redskins.. I'm being completely fare by stating they have made calls on other teams to help us and have missed some calls on us... Maybe whoever it is with Redskins organization finally got through to the officiating and said look you got to do a better job for us... And I read a clip earlier about how special teams coach noticed what the center was doing in warmups and said something to Gruden and he said something to the refs and the refs noticed it and rightfully so through a flag.

I respect how you feel and your opinion on this matter, but I have read similar arguments from Lions fans who were jobbed when Calvin Johnson took multiple steps, rolled around, then let the ball go in the back of the endzone and the refs said it wasn't a TD.

I have seen similar reactions from Raider fans with the BS tuck in rule garbage.  That was clearly a fumble.  I have heard similar reactions from Cowboys fans when they were robbed out of most likely a win against GB in the playoff game when Dez caught the ball and took like 3 or 4 steps and told it was incomplete.

Hell we are hearing Dallas fans the last day or two whine about the very questionable flag on the LS for something that LSs do all the time.  It worked out in our favor thank goodness, but you know this place would have been in an uproar if the roles were reversed.

Ive read reactions from Browns fans that were pissed and said similar things when they came to Fed Ex a couple years ago, remember when their RB fumbled the ball but got it back and ran out of the pile of bodies with the ball in his hand jumping up and down while the refs were still looking in a pile of players WITHOUT a ball in it....  And once everybody got up the refs said it was our ball?  It worked out for us but the Browns were robbed blind.

How many times has LeBron James and other players in the NBA gotten away with taking 4 steps driving to the basket and not get called for travel?  But most times others get called.

To answer your question no I don't believe in conspiracy and biases against solely the Washington Redskins.  I do believe that refs are human and make mistakes that go against us and every other team, and go for us and every other team.  It goes both ways.  If they made penalties reviewable, then that would cut out all the conspiracy nonsense for every fan around the league.

16 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

It's not loser talk and apparently you don't watch Redskins football..watch Redskins football and not fantasy Foosball

Ive been watching and enjoying Redskins football for 38 years and have not seen us get any worse calls against us than any other NFL team.  Bad calls happen in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, tennis, etc...  It happens.  But to blame the majority of penalties on us on some mystic ref led league wide bias/conspiracy is BS and loser talk.  But this is just my opinion according to what I have seen in all of sports with my own eyes.

For the record I have never gotten into fantasy football.  I'm not into all of that.

15 hours ago, bakedtater1 said:

So I think we can all agree the refs have done there fare share of bending us over through the years..I mean they make ****ty calls in other games besides ours but the refs have screwed us before.

 

I'm still seeing missed calls(kerrigan against gb)but there also calling them.. specifically in last night's game when whoever it was nearly knocked out dak near the sideline...I'd bet a grand every time there would be a flag thrown...and as much as I hate saying it in today's NFL that should have drawn a flag..??...but it didn't..and there was a flag on a play that eventually lead us to win the game. I have noticed the refs actually favoring us?..does that sound right?.

 

I don't know but I have noticed a major difference in the officiating in the Redskins games this year so far. Is it really our year    ?

Every team gets bad calls.  Every team gets jobbed.  Sometimes it works in our favor like Sunday and sometimes it doesn't.  Our fan base is too intelligent to believe every time we get flagged its some conspiracy or bias against just us out of all 32 teams when there are controversial calls all around the league every week.  

I would love for us as a intelligent, hardworking, knowledgeable, storied, and loyal fan base to stop leaning on league wide "bias and conspiracy" excuses.  We have been playing well lately.  When you are good, your play overcomes penalties 9 times out of 10.  If we get a bad call against us, then oh well.  No disrespect to anybody in general but the refs/league bias and/or conspiracy is loser talk.  We are a better fanbase than whiny loser talk whenever we get penalized to blame it on the refs and league.  Cmon y'all!!!