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    Redskins receiving corp is beginning to shape up

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    1 minute ago, JSSkinz said:

    The big difference is the money, we got AP for a bus pass and DJAX is getting $11M this year, I'm sure if we knew more about the direction of  Kirks contract we may have made a better attempt at keeping him but even then I'm not so sure. I still think he's an overrated 1 trick pony.

     

    I live in Tampa so I'm not in the dark on their team and why he is prospering this year.

     

    Ah we are both far away fans of the Redskins. That's very cool to me. I'm in DFW Texas myself. 

     

    About the salary well I agree that it was much more expensive to pay for Jackson then Peterson, but the team was slow to even entertain signing Peterson until it was obvious that they had to do something there. They didn't target him in FA, they waited until the last moments to hire him. And yes his money is almost vet minimum but the difference here and signing a 30 yo free agent receiver like Tate (I like Golden btw) is the markets will be in much higher demand for Tate then the market was for AP. I expect Tate to get Garcon money (was more then Deseans) this offseason and the team to be cheap with that route because they are always cheap. 

     

    If they can sign a vet WR for cheap then they will do it. Hell they just did that twice since the season started. Which is why I think that the team will likely sign Junior Gallette this season, he will come hella cheap now. But to pay up for an older guy this team hasn't done that since when? Not for many years. 

     

    About Desean isn't it nuts how one QB can use Desean correctly where as another QB can't? Desean with Fitzpatrick was exciting. Desean with Winston is going to be another snoozefest. 

    Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

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    Posted · Edited by bobandweave

    I once was a huge fan of the UFC but the last several years haven't excited me much and I haven't watched regularly in a long time. However I am a CM fan so he temporarily brought me back to the UFC this week. I know that the "purist" don't like CM. He is no Royce Gracie. I know morally good people really don't like CM. His actions are at times appalling and his mouth is brutal. There is a lot not to like about the guy. 

     

    To the casual fan there is a ton to like about him. CM brings excitement and unpredictability where ever he goes. CM is must watch. The UFC desperately needs more charismatic characters like CM if it wants to keep growing. Truth is there will always be an audience for the purist fans of this sport. But your only going to set records when the UFC gets a little more like professional wrestling. I'm sorry but if you don't think them rematching is good for the UFC you don't understand this business. CM is a cash cow, where he goes people follow. Dana knows this so he puts up with nonsense because in the end he is a business man with a goal of making as much money as he can. 

     

    As for CM he is completely one dimensional, can't wrestle or have any background in that. Take him off his feet and he's easy prey. I bet CM loses the rematch if there is one. You can't teach someone grappling for his entire life and expect a guy who worked on that for a few months to compete with him.  You can't teach that overnight and when your fight features this style clash without a lucky punch the shooter is going to win.

     

    CM is a good powerful striker but his best asset that no one else brings is himself. And after that fight his opponents best asset is what he did after that fight. People know his name now. Only the die hard purist knew who he was before this fight. Now people want to see him get his ass kicked and the roles to reverse. CM was the arrogant out of control heel before this fight. After this fight he is a babyface and his opponent is the heel. People loved CM as the heel and now will love him as the face. Its a different fight now. 

     

    CM used to be about his two titles, that was years ago. Now CM is about his whisky and his persona. So he lost. Big deal. Mike Tyson lost 5 times. Everyone loses except Money Mayweather. Even though he lost, even though he isn't going to win the rematch, and even though this fight was boring for the most part I guarantee that in his next fight the match will sell out and do even better ppv business then this one did. It will be exciting. That's what matters. CM puts asses in seats and until he can't do that anymore he will still get booked and people will still follow him. Even in his defeats it is exciting to his fans. That's a value to the sport that seems to be overlooked here imo. CM is good for the UFC

     

    Oh and the fighter who said he balls were hot as to why he took off his pants, that was the funniest thing I have seen in a long time

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    45 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

     

    Desean is burning it up, I'd kill to have him here.  No rule that we can't sign someone over 30 -- just because they didn't last time.  I'd rather have someone young but beggers can't be choosers.

     

    It would go against the way this front office has been doing business signing older players but like you said it could happen. And since the front office is so reactionary and they have found success with the 30+ yo Peterson I would think they could change that next season and sign an older receiver. 

     

     

    45 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

    Bruce said in an interview at the time that they lost production with Desean and Garcon but they replaced it with almost equal production from Quick and Pryor.  And beat guys said internally they thought Crowder was their best WR at the time they let Garcon and Desean go.   

     

    God that interview should have been enough to fire Bruce Allen. No team wants the guy running the show to be that idiotic do they? Just shows me their is nothing Bruce could do to get fired around here. I am sad now :(

     

     

    Redskins receiving corp is beginning to shape up

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    Posted · Edited by bobandweave

    15 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

     

    As for FA.  Golden Tate is 30 but when he's on he's good.  Maybe Benjamin rediscovers his way? 

     

    We can't sign 30 yo receivers, wasn't that the reason they let Desean and Pierre go? They were too old. 

     

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    Yeah its been a weird journey we had one of the best receivers crew in 2016 to now having one of the weakest.   I was among the people who wanted to resign D. Jax.  And I am not even as negative as some on the guys we got but we still don't have even close to a true #1 WR. 

     

    I was on the side of signing them both back, if you pressed me for just one guy I would have said Garcon. After seeing him get injured again yesterday the logical side of me thinks we did the right thing letting him go as that's happened the past two seasons to him. Still the homer in me says I still miss his swagger and see that as a desperate need for the receivers.  

     

     

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    If I recall you liked C. Ridley in the draft.  He's looking like a true #1.  He was very polished as a route running as a receiver in college so maybe that's part of the formula to unlocking the draft riddle.

     

    I was beating my drum about us targeting him pre-draft. Dude looks like a stud and if he wasn't lining up next to the best receiver in the game today he would have even better stats then he already does. Don't hate or even dislike the actual player we took but at the time I thought we could sign Hankins to shore up the middle of the line and get the drafts best receiver. People disagreed with me about that possibility saying he would cost too much but look he ended up signing a one year 2 million dollar deal. We could have had them both instead of just Payne but shoulda woulda couldas right 

     

     

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    I noticed the NFL,con article suggested we should trade for TY Yelton.  I am not adverse to trading for a receiver because like you I don't trust they'd easily figure it out on their own -- as you mentioned they aren't hot drafting them and in FA Bruce doesn't typically like to sign top shelf guys.

     

    Do you mean TJ Yeldon as in the Jaguars running back or TY Hilton as in Andrew Lucks #1? 

    Redskins receiving corp is beginning to shape up

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    2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

    or spy on the Steelers who do they like?  ?  In our division the Giants are decent at scoping out Wrs but they've had some misses.

     

    Steelers ploy wouldn't work because we don't have Ben or that offense coming with the pick.

     

    Giants have crushed us at drafting receivers and it pains me to say that. None of our draft picks ever made it to a pro bowl or All pro since Snyder took over. Not one. Our best receivers since Snyder took control have all been free agents. 

     

    To me it's like chasing unicorns finding a receiver in the draft. Problem is I just looked into next years FA's and it's not a pretty sight

     

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/wide-receiver/

     

    The best are too old and the younger guys are all wild cards. Its ugly

    Redskins receiving corp is beginning to shape up

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    Can't get on board with drafting a WR no matter how badly we need some. The issue with it is that since Snyder came here they have drafted 19 WR's and none of them were very good. We think that Crowder is good and that Trey Quinn is going to be good but if they weren't on this team would we still think that? Maybe maybe not. We can't spot receiver talent in the draft and it work out for them. Rather pick up receivers in Free Agency and not waste the draft pick personally. 

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    28 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

    In fact this offense overall so far is not fantasy friendly.

     

    i would take either of the backs on the team for fantasy. AP is ranked 10th for rush yards today after missing a game where the others in front of him haven't. Chris is currently 5th in the league for RB passing targets so makes for a fine PPR play. Both are fantasy worthy imo

     

     

    28 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

     Maybe Alex Smith can be an emergency #2 QB that can cover for you during your other QB's bye week, but the ball is spread around to so many guys coupled with the fact that no one on this offense seems to have the ability to take over a game.

     

    Alex is not worth rostering even in deep leagues imo. When your bye week comes my advice would be to check your waivers and find the QB who is playing against the team giving up the most points you can find and start him. Might have you starting a guy you don't believe in but when the matchup works like that you have a ceiling game of of Mitchell Trubisky yesterday.

     

    28 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

    Reed is probably the closest, but even he will have these games where he gets off to a great start and then disappears and/or vice versa.

     

    Reed has the 6th most targets for TE's so far in the league. He also leads the team in targets, he is also roster worthy imo 

     

    47 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

    I wonder how many 100 yard games our collective big 3 WRs will have this year.  Early Vegas line.... 2.5.

     

    I may take the under. They only have 260 yards total through 3 games. That is less than 30 yards per player per game. Now a lot of that has to do with running the ball effectively, but I see other teams have a 100 yd rusher and a WR with more than 30 yards so.... I think its wise to short the Skins WRs until we see otherwise.

     

    Too close to call imo 

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    9 minutes ago, mistertim said:

     

    Are we, though? I suppose if you just mean our split end (who tends to be the prototypical #1 WR) then yeah. But I don't think he's a #1 target. With Jay and Alex that seems to be more TEs.

     

    Target leaders so far:

     

    1. Chris Thompson - 23 targets

    2. Jordan Reed - 20 targets

     

    Our receivers come in 3 - 4 - and 5th separated by only 2 targets among them - Richardson 14 targets, Doctson 13 targets, and Crowder 12 targets. 

     

    The top receiving options so far have been the RB and TE. It's surprising to see that Crowder has the least amount of targets so far among the group. Either way they have to get the receivers more attempts. 

     

     

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    23 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

     

    I liked Treadwell initially but got swayed by all the metrics that Doctson beat him on and Doctson's hands combined with his size-vertical.  If Doctson doesn't pan out, 2 lessons for me on it.

     

    A.  A lot of first round WRs flame out -- seems like a real hit and miss endeavor in the first round

    B.  Study a player's personality.  Doctson's personality is so low key and cavalier -- doesn't give off the greatest vibe. 

     

    A. I've studied the bust rates by position with first round nfl picks in the past. Drafting WR in the first round produces an extremely high bust rate:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2441018-which-positions-are-the-safest-riskiest-at-the-top-of-the-nfl-draft

     

    it's not that it "seems" because it is. Fact of the matter for the 2016 NFL drafted WR's the best of the bunch were all 2nd round picks:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:wr

     

    it's things like this that always have me more on board with targeting WR's in free agency over targeting them in the draft

     

    B. So is Michael Thomas. Don't think personalities have much to do with it personally. Art Monk had a low key personality. I love him. 

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    SCOTUS: No longer content with stacking, they're now dealing from the bottom of the deck

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    Posted · Edited by bobandweave

    16 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said:

     

    FBI!  OPEN UP!

     

    *crashes in through ceiling*

     

    It was bobandweave.

     

    See how fast we work?  And Brett totally did it.  Total time, 76 seconds.

     

    Say what about who? What's the question? 

     

    I probably did whatever I am charged with. I have crs = can't remember **** so help a brother out and tell me what I did wrong :D

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