Hail2TheHogs

Roy Jones Jr's downfall was when his quickness went away, once his opponents could start connecting regularly on him, Jones ended up in brawls instead of being able to showcase his slick skills.

Roy was always a better athlete than he was a boxer. He was able to get away with so much because his athletic skills were crazy. 

Lol...Floyd, it's "ridiculous".

Dude, he even criticized Ali for the way he beat Foreman. Then he criticized him for losing to a fighter with 7 wins (Spinks).

And since you're here, take the bet that Rexx and myself took. If May loses, you have to put in your signature, "Pacquiao is the greatest fighter of his generation" until he retires. I'll do the same if Mayweather wins, but of course I would put Mayweather instead of Pacquiao.

But Floyd needs to be smarter than that. You CANNOT sit there, driving a very expensive car and say that racism today is as bad as it was back in Ali' s time. I have a feeling after that airs, he's gonna catch a ton of flack for it.

Floyd prides himself on not taking punishment. The way Ali beat Foreman doesn't fit with Floyd's mentality, which is to take as little punishment as possible. I love Ali, and he took a BIG risk laying on the ropes round after round eating shots hoping that George would tire himself out. Foreman was a monster puncher.

The Spinks thing...Ali was old and suffering from symptoms of Parkinson's even then.

Do I think a heavyweight version of Mayweather beats Ali? Yep. He's that good.

Now...Him and Sweet Pea (Pernell)? That's a very interesting fight. I've watched Sweet Pea slip almost everything under the sun.

Another pound for pound fight I'd be interested in seeing is Floyd and Rigo (deaux). That be a great chess match.

SS, Barry Bonds gained an awful lot of weight without getting slower or losing power. So either he was using steroids or PacMan could be clean. 

 

The answer, of course, is that Barry admitted that he used "the cream and the clear", but he claimed that he didn't know that they were steroids when he used them.

 

But in a world where Anderson Silva can get nailed twice for 'roiding, I don't see how we can be sure that Floyd isn't also using, especially to be fighting so well at such an old age.

 

 

We agree about racism in America, though - there's plenty of it left. Hell, in some ways I'd say it's more obvious than it was ten years ago.

Floyd hasn't taken much punishment at all in his career. Reflexes are a part of it, but taking shots over and over for years wears down fighters quicker than reflexes ever will. When Floyd reflexes start to go...he can still be a crafty fighter in the vein of Bernard Hopkins.

Also hearing that the contract stipulates the fighters only required to meet 3 times which will be the March 11 press conf, the fight week press conf, and the weigh-in on May 1st.

I really didn't expect a lot of press meets for this fight. It's been selling itself for years anyway.

Not sure if y'all have been keeping up with Amir Khan's comments about the super fight but he basically said Mayweather took the easy route in avoiding him and fighting Manny. He also said the fight will be very boring. Dude is a delusional attention whore. But any way, Mayweather responds by offering to give him a ticket to the fight... smh

He's smoking that Oooh Wee if he really believes that he's on either of those 2's status levels. Got a feeling that Amir will be Floyd's opponent next after this fight, overseas. That do some good numbers.

Think Amir would be more difficult to game plan for than Manny (speed+reach+jab). I will give him that, though Floyd still beats him.

I like Murray's heart. GGG cuts off ring well and has good head movement when taking fire back. If Murray had some more power though...could be interesting.

That all sounds good and could be accurate, but when was the last time he faced a fast, hard hitting southpaw?

Fighting stance won't be an issue in this fight. Technical skill will. 

GGG is doing good body work in this fight. 

You gotta post in this thread more Hail2TheHogs, good insight. Would love to hear your breakdown on other fights.

 

 

Speaking of which Golovkin fighting Martin Murrary on HBO today, live at 5:45pm (est) then replayed later tonight. Murray is a decent fighter, but don't expect him to trouble Golovkin in any way. He getting good boy'd tonight.

Thanks for the update...I need to check that fight out. Murray is a decent step-up in competition for Golovkin.

All those points you made were obviously slanted in Mayweather's favor. So let me get this straight. Zab was faster, Mosley hits harder and Maidana can put pressure on him, but Pacquiao can't. I guess Pacquiao will be lucky to land a meaningful punch. I know you think Mayweather will win, and there's nothing wrong with that, but guys like Judah and Maidana isn't in Pacquiao's league and Floyd WILL.find that out.

I didn't slant anything in Mayweather's favor. And I never said Manny can't cut off the ring. He's not good at it. 

When does Pacquiao walk anybody down? He operates in a range. If you back up a la Mosley, and continue to give him ground...he'll take it, but he doesn't want to work like that. Look at that Pacquiao Mosley fight again. All Shane did that fight was backup. Pacquiao didn't like it, but it was ok because Shane wasn't really throwing much for him to be worrying about counters of the backfoot (which he was wide open for that whole night a la a straight right hand). He operates better when people are coming toward him.

Mayweather doesn't care about that in a fight. He operates when he wants to. You can't sucker him in to fight your fight. And if Pacquiao thinks shooting a left, then a left right combination over and over will somehow win this fight, he's in for a long night.

Lucky to land a meaningful punch...I won't say that. I will say that I believe what I've believed since the beginning: Mayweather whitewashes Pacquiao. 

Has he ever fought anyone with Pac's speed and power? The two fighters that come close, Judah and Mosley, had him in trouble.

From what I saw against Maidana, Mayweather's legs are gone and he doesn't avoid punches like he used to.

So it begins.

Judah is faster than Pacquiao at throwing punches...but not as strong. Mosley is stronger than Pac but not as fast.

Floyd had trouble with Judah at the beginning because with Judah's speed, it was hard to time him. Once Floyd figured out the visual clues to what Judah was doing and used that to get the timing down, he beat him easy.

Mosley when he was in welter was the strongest puncher. The two shots he caught Mayweather with were good shots, but it's what Floyd did after those shots and his recovery that impress. The first shot, the straight right after Floyd got caught with it he immediately caught it with his arm and held on making Mosley a one arm puncher, instead of reaching out to grab him. The other punch, the looping right he got caught with...Floyd buckled almost to a full squat, raised up, backed up to the ropes to buy some time and recovered. And not only recovered...stood his ground and walked Mosley down for the rest of the fight.

Pacquiao has quick feet, but he's not good at cutting off the ring once a fighter gets out of range. And even if he could, he wouldn't be able to keep Floyd on the ropes like Maidana, who outweighed Floyd by 17 pds on fight night.

This is a bad fight for Manny. All the mistakes that he makes Floyd will jump on. I would not be surprised if Floyd put pressure on Manny and walked him down. Pacquiao has one set distance he operates from. He is at a disadvantage in the phone booth (can't fight inside) and outside of his punching range (where he starts lunging in to get his shots off).

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