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  1.     This is from the Ives Goddard article...

    The word redskin reflects a genuine Native American idiom that was used in several languages, where it grew out of an earlier established and more widespread use of “red” and “white” as racial labels. This terminology was developed by Native Americans to label categories of the new ethnic and political reality they confronted with the coming of the Europeans.

    When Black Thunder wanted to refer inclusively to all the assembled tribes and to both the Americans and the French, he said “red skins and white skins.”

    So as we can see way back in the day the word redskin was never meant to be a derogatory word. It had a self-explanatory meaning once the Europeans arrived and it seem like the Native Americans called themselves red skins to differentiate themselves from the new pale-skinned Europeans. Now its the 21st century and I highly doubt Native Americans would like to be referred to as "red skins" and Caucasians would not like to be called "white skins" I don't think the term redskin is up there with the n-word, but I'll put it in the same category of calling African Americans "colored people" hence the word red skin being a offensive word in 2013.

    As noted in an above article, a retired Chief of a Virginia Tribe noted that John Smith wrote in his diary the infants born in tribes were as white as the settlers and the CHief also noted that the use of a big repellant using animal fat and a plant dye would darken skin red over time... He also pointed out that the term was coined by Native Americans themselves to distinguish themselves....

  2. ARGHHHHH!!!!! Why don't these jerks get over it?! The Redskins have been the teams name for close to a century. Just get over it and use some of their time and money to solve some real problems.

    A lot of people had the same attitude toward civil rights activists in the 1950-60s.

    This naming topic is in no way comparable to civil rights movements.  There is no hatred involved.  I've never heard the term used in a negative manner and neither have you.  There are no violation of rights unless you are taking away a private companies rights in which it seems to be the case.  How more people are offended today (still a low %) than 50 years ago is amazing.  THe older Native Americans are less offended than the younger probably because they are closer to the culture and understand the history and meaning...

  3. Awesome article below of support for our name from retired Chief:

     

    Retired Native American Chief Would Be Offended If Redskins DID Change Name

     

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/05/29/retired-native-american-chief-would-be-offended-if-redskins-did-change-name/

     

    WASHINGTON (CBSDC) - Days ago, ten members of Congress sent letters to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, and the team’s stadium naming rights holder FedEx, along with the league’s 31 other franchises, urging them to have ‘Redskins’ changed due to the name’s offensive nature.

     

    In response, the longtime chief of a major Virginia-based tribe went on the record to say he’d actually be offended if the team DID change the name.

     

    Robert “Two Eagles” Green, who retired from his presiding role over the 1300-member Patawomeck Tribe in March, was a guest on SiriusXM NFL Radio’s “The Opening Drive” on Wednesday.

     

    He gave a detailed account of the origin of the term Redskin, why so many people are offended by it, and how political correctness has allowed this story to fester far longer than it should.

     

    “I think that first of all, you have to make a decision whether you consider it offensive or not, and frankly, the members of my tribe, the vast majority, don’t find it offensive,” Green said. “I’ve been a Redskins fan for years and to be honest with you, I would be offended if they did change it.”

     

    Earlier this month, Snyder told the USA Today “We’ll never change the name,” but instead of bringing finality to the debate, his words seemed to spark controversy on a national level, bringing activists from both sides out of the woodwork to fan the flames.

     

    Chief Green’s research indicates the common misconception is to think the term was originally used as a racial epithet to denigrate Native people; that the label was actually self-applied, and was used quite frequently during interactions with early settlers.

     

    Here’s a blow-by-blow of the interview, in which each nuance of the great debate is addressed.

     

    Why are people offended by it?


     

    “Well I think that, first of all, our country has become too politically correct. And you can find it in any number of areas. Little League, where everybody has to get a trophy now, or otherwise, the poor child that doesn’t get a trophy will have his psyche hurt.”


     

    Origin of the Name


     

    “And I think what you have to do is look at where the term Redskin was originated. There’s some that give the term Redskins a negative connotation to indicate that it was created by the white man, to offend the Indians. But in reality, the term Redskins came from the Indians. And they referred to themselves often times, in treaty negotiations and meetings with the early settlers, as Redskins.

     

    “So it’s not a term that the white man created. It’s actually a term that the Indians themselves created. I just think we have people in this country that try and gin up problems that don’t exist.”

     

    “Now, our investigation into the term goes back pretty far – to 1608 – when John Smith was traveling from Jamestown to meet with the Indian people, and he remarked in his diary that when they’re born, they’re as white as we are. It’s only as they age that their skin darkens.

     

    “And we believe that that was a reason for that. We use a bug repellant, for lack of a better term, that was made up of animal fat and the dye of the Puccoon plant. And coincidentally, the Puccoon dye, when it’s crushed and dyed, is red. And so for years, the Indian people were rubbing this red dye into their skin. And some of the other early settlers remarked that their skin turns red. So, was that a comment meant to denigrate the Indian people? I don’t think so. I don’t think the name was created by George Preston Marshall to be offensive.”

     

    The Logo


     

    “And if you look at the logo, there’s nothing offensive about the logo. I think one of the great things about the logo is that it’s an Eastern Indian, and they didn’t go to the full warhead headdress and things. It was never intended to be offensive. I think that sometimes, we’re a little too touchy in our society these days.”

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  4. Time for your monthly "lets change the Redskins name instead of actually focusing on important issues" update.

    Name proposal change by DC City Council from Redskins to Redtails, in honor of the Tuskegee Airmen.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations/_/id/9230556/dc-pol-suggests-redtails-name-change-washington-redskins

    This is getting ridiculous. We've been through the protests 60 years after the name took affect and the Supreme Court said you don't have a case. Now 80 years after the name took affect there are individuals claiming it's derogatory.

    I've never heard the term used in a negative light... and neither have you (generalizing "you", not being specific

    I think the opposition needs to just think of another cause to go after, something of importance and helps people, like raising money for cancer or fighting human trafficking.

  5. Your score is: 4352 (Drafting Ability: A, Player Quality A, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

    Your Picks:

    Round 2 Pick 21 (CINN): Eric Reid, FS, LSU (A)

    Round 3 Pick 25 (SEA): Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee (B-)

    Round 4 Pick 21 (CINN): Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut (A)

    Round 4 Pick 22: Shawn Williams, SS, Georgia (C+)

    Round 4 Pick 27 (HOU): Tavarres King, WR, Georgia ©

    Round 5 Pick 5 (SEA): Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State (A-)

    Round 5 Pick 23 (CINN): Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina (A)

    Round 5 Pick 27 (HOU): Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon (B+)

    Round 6 Pick 13 (T.B.): Adrian Bushell, CB, Louisville (A)

    Round 6 Pick 23: Jason Weaver, OT, Southern Mississippi (A)

    Round 6 Pick 27 (HOU): P.J. Lonergan, C, LSU (A)

    Round 6 Pick 31 (BALT): T.J. Barnes, DT, Georgia Tech (A)

    Round 6 Pick 32 (BALT): Brad Wing, P, LSU (A)

    Round 7 Pick 32 (BALT): Jake Stoneburner, TE, Ohio State (A)

    Your Future Picks:

    2015 Round 1 Pick

    Nice! I got Eric Reid, too, but two more spots higher, so you got great value!

    Your score is: 4222 (Drafting Ability: A, Player Quality A, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

    Your Picks:

    Round 2 Pick 19: Eric Reid, FS, LSU (A)

    Round 3 Pick 31 (S.F.): Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (A)

    Round 4 Pick 8 (BUF): Will Davis, CB, Utah State (A)

    Round 4 Pick 22: Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech (B)

    Round 5 Pick 21: Chris Faulk, OT, LSU (A)

    Round 5 Pick 22 (MINN): Rick Wagner, OT, Wisconsin (A-)

    Round 5 Pick 32 (BALT): Tavarres King, WR, Georgia (A-)

    Round 6 Pick 9 (BUF): Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State (A)

    Round 6 Pick 12 (S.F.): Theo Riddick, RB, Notre Dame (B+)

    Round 6 Pick 30 (ATL): Zach Boren, FB, Ohio State (A)

    Round 7 Pick 5 (DET): Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State (A)

    Round 7 Pick 7 (MINN): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State (A)

    Round 7 Pick 21 (S.F.): Khaled Holmes, C, Southern California (A)

    Round 7 Pick 22: Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State (A)

    Round 7 Pick 31 (S.F.): Jake Stoneburner, TE, Ohio State (A)

  6. I did lots of trades and didn't agree with some of their rankins, ie. I think Baccari Rambo is overrated. If his first name was John and last name Doe, he'd be ranked much lower. The names kind of help; just ask the teams that signed Pacman Jones. Biggest mistake I made was not getting Justin Hunter, as he went a pick before Rambo... I traded that pick thinking I'd be safe sliding down a slot and getting that underrated WR

    Your score is: 3587 (Drafting Ability: B+, Player Quality A, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

    Your Picks:

    Round 3 Pick 2 (JAX): Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia (B)

    Round 3 Pick 24 (IND): B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary (A)

    Round 3 Pick 27 (HOU): Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (A)

    Round 3 Pick 28 (DEN): Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M (A-)

    Round 3 Pick 32 (BALT): A.J. Klein, ILB, Iowa State (A-)

    Round 4 Pick 2 (K.C.): Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina (B)

    Round 4 Pick 4 (PHI): Brian Schwenke, C, California (A-)

    Round 4 Pick 22: Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech (B)

    Round 4 Pick 27 (HOU): David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado (A-)

    Round 4 Pick 32 (BALT): David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State (B+)

    Round 5 Pick 1 (K.C.): J.C. Tretter, OG, Cornell (B)

    Round 5 Pick 2 (JAX): Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State (B+)

    Round 5 Pick 4 (DET): Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia (B)

    Round 5 Pick 21: Kyle Juszczyk, FB, Harvard (B)

    Round 5 Pick 28 (DEN): Cory Grissom, DT, South Florida (A)

    Round 6 Pick 2 (K.C.): Brad Wing, P, LSU (A-)

    Round 6 Pick 3 (DET): Bradley McDougald, FS, Kansas (A-)

    Round 6 Pick 4 (OAK): Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford (A)

    Round 6 Pick 23: Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State (A)

    Round 6 Pick 27 (HOU): Ace Sanders, WR, South Carolina (A-)

    Round 6 Pick 28 (T.B.): JJ Wilcox, SS, Georgia Southern (A)

    Round 6 Pick 29 (CINN): Kahlid Wooten, CB, Nevada (A)

    Round 6 Pick 31 (BALT): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State (A)

    Round 6 Pick 32 (BALT): Braden Brown, OT, Brigham Young (A)

    Round 7 Pick 8 (SEA): Abry Jones, DT, Georgia (A)

    Round 7 Pick 14 (SEA): Bruce Taylor, ILB, Virginia Tech (A)

  7. I find it considerably odd that after every time I post that "Gold" description/color palette, from Wikipedia, in which the first shade of gold referenced is the shade of gold we use (golden), someone comes along like my post was invisible and claims we wear yellow pants.

    Heres a different link with a color palette

    We wear gold, not yellow.

    I see your point and your proof... I agree, we wear gold...

  8. I just have to say, the next 3 UFC events are going to have less than stellar main events. Granted the next two cards are free which is good but the main events are lacking until Randy vs. Lesnar.

    Diaz v Neer: Ok not bad for a free fight and Neer sub'd Nick Diaz already (which is tough b/c Nick's BJJ is top-notch) and will try the same for Nate.

    Bisping vs. Leben: wtf lol

    Anderson vs Cote: Anderson is always going to be a main event but he's going to demolish Cote, I look forward to seeing Anderson fight again but damn this probably won't be any challenge for him.

    I'm curious to see the EliteXC fight with Kimbo vs. Shamrock.

    Lesnar vs. Couture is going to be awesome, but I think Lesnar gets the win.

  9. An actual athlete? :laugh:

    Pro-wrestlers may be in good shape but they are nowhere near as conditioned as pro-boxers are.

    And I'm not even that big of a boxing fan, I'm a much bigger fan of MMA.

    I've heard some garbage before but give me a break dude.

    If conditioning is a determining factor of athletisiscm, then A kneyan would woop Floyd's butt.

    He's just saying, Big Show is not some coach potato. He played basketball in college and moves around every week in the ring. I think Flloyd would be killed by him in a real fight.

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