Thiebear Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 http://www.poynter.org/content/content_print.asp?id=61244&custom= The Washington Post's Policies on Sources, Quotations, Attribution, and Datelines The Washington Post is committed to disclosing to its readers the sources of the information in its stories to the maximum possible extent. We want to make our reporting as transparent to the readers as possible so they may know how and where we got our information. Transparency is honest and fair, two values we cherish. Whenever questions arise about how to convey the transparency of our reporting to the reader, consult with editors. etc.. lots more... Click Sports Choose Redskins... Click Each story from top to bottom on the Redskins section sports editor Emilio Garcia Ruiz never there? Kornheiser is PTI/980Radio/Column and sometimes sports... Wilbon more of a basketball guy... Nunyo not mentioned and he is the staff writer? Sally Jenkins back UnWise Mike back Boswell the baseball guy is there the most??? Using a quote from the Great interview today... A:I think "Orwellian" is fascinating, so I can't resist dubbing Emilio the Wizard of Oz. Someday we may see behind the curtain. I say that because the Redskins don't really know Emilio, or any of the editors assigned to beat reporters. I've only spoken to Emilio two or three times since he took the job two or three years ago. I've never spoken to the day-to-day editor of the Redskins beat. Emilio has never been to Redskins Park, nor have any of the editors. Yet they direct a paper that writes about the team almost every day. So I think your members should encourage them to come out for a visit. His predecessor, George Soloman, was a regular visitor and we talked almost weekly. I didn't agree with him on many subjects, but he worked very hard and did due diligence. There is no columnist assigned to regularly watch and comment on the team. I think that's a shame on a beat that has as many fans as we do. We're subjected to what are basically drive-by attacks in columns with sketchy basis or no basis at all. Q: (Follow) What do you mean exactly? A: I'll give you an example. Before the draft, Sally Jenkins wrote an article about how the Redskins do a lousy job in the late rounds of the draft, adding that our team hasn't produced many starters from the draft. Her example is based on four of 17 players drafted in the past three years. She's wrong. The number is five. That's nearly 30 percent of our draftees who are starters in the last three years. Actually, if you count Lott and Betts, who at times have been starters, the number goes to seven and the percentage rises to nearly half. If the premise of her column is right then the facts should be right. But I think that is what happens when you write on the fly. She hasn't been to the Park in years and I actually believe she lives in New York City. The columnists at the Post are game day attendees. Wilbon was here a year ago when Joe Gibbs returned. UnWise Mike has been here twice that I'm aware of. I can't remember when Kornheiser was last here. Boswell has been out here more than the others. He used to come out here every three or four months. Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 hey bear...i'm not following you. where do you click on sports and redskins? and what do you mean "is that it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 I think it would be great if Extremeskins.com could somehow arrange to get the WP's side of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by zoony I think it would be great if Extremeskins.com could somehow arrange to get the WP's side of the story. Nunyo chat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsHokieFan Nunyo chat? ha! with this bunch? more like Nunyo lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Originally posted by andyman hey bear...i'm not following you. where do you click on sports and redskins? and what do you mean "is that it" I was thinking the same thing. What are you getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 Originally posted by andyman hey bear...i'm not following you. where do you click on sports and redskins? and what do you mean "is that it" When you go to: WashingtonPost.com Sports / Redskins Its not Football or NFL... its Redskins..... So why so little visitation and so many "sources" say... with bad numbers and misquotes and capology this site fixes daily. _____________________________ "is that it"? was Am i missing something here or are there really nobody on the Washington Post that actually visits the park/talks to the people on a regular basis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 OK, now I see your point. And thanks for posting the Poynter link/clue. Swanson's right. The Post policies on "sources" are way stricter than we see in the reporting on the Skins. Wassup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Yeah. I noticed both that and the lack of visitors from the Post, ( Gee, those folks who cover the Skins and all), in the Chat above. I guess the Redskins aren't worthy of the same consideration as other departments, even though the Post apparently has a fair share of people responsible for covering them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nunyo has an open invitation to chat here. He may be willing to do it, though it would be done through mail, with your questions asked ahead of time and giving him time to respond as he wishes. We hope to bring this to you in the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Originally posted by Art Nunyo has an open invitation to chat here. He may be willing to do it, though it would be done through mail, with your questions asked ahead of time and giving him time to respond as he wishes. We hope to bring this to you in the coming weeks. You kidding me? Let him take the questions like a man, not after spending hours conferring with his editors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 "You kidding me? Let him take the questions like a man, not after spending hours conferring with his editors" No doubt!! He needs to man up and do a chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 "You kidding me? Let him take the questions like a man, not after spending hours conferring with his editors" No doubt!! He needs to man up and do a chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Originally posted by andyman You kidding me? Let him take the questions like a man, not after spending hours conferring with his editors. Nunyo doesn't feel I am honest enough to provide his answers in full without editing based on some open criticism I've made of him here and in private. I've told him that a chat with the fans would be straightforward and I would back myself off so it was just the fans, but, he is not comfortable dealing with a live chat here. A place like HailRedskins was easier for him as there are so few members and so little interest, he wouldn't be challenged as he would here. We will continue to work with Nunyo to make him comfortable enough to face a much larger, much more intelligent user community. We'll see . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 I think that Doc Walker, Mr. Swanson, and Mr. Cerrato would say that weve been professional with our communications, asked VERY direct questions, and made it clear that our ONLY agenda is to give them the opportunity to directly interact with the fans of the Redskins. Nothing that they said was edited, deleted, or taken out of context. I can guarantee that Nunyo would be treated just as graciously as all of our other guests have. I hope he takes the opportunity to give the fans his (and the Post's) side of the issues via a live chat just as everyone else has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Originally posted by Art I've told him that a chat with the fans would be straightforward and I would back myself off so it was just the fans, but, he is not comfortable dealing with a live chat here. A place like HailRedskins was easier for him as there are so few members and so little interest, he wouldn't be challenged as he would here. We will continue to work with Nunyo to make him comfortable enough to face a much larger, much more intelligent user community. We'll see . Skip it. If Cerrato and Swanson can handle it, why not Nunyo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Originally posted by andyman Skip it. If Cerrato and Swanson can handle it, why not Nunyo? I agree with you completely. It's disappointing he can't stone up and stand tall before the fans . But, my guess is unlike Vinny and Swanson who may not have seen any criticism of them by me here, where Nunyo appears to see most of it, and therefore feels I will treat him too roughly for his liking. But, I'm working on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Nunyo doesn't feel I am honest enough to provide his answers in full without editing based on some open criticism I've made of him here and in private. :laugh: :laugh: Now that's rich. :laugh: Nunyo has taking words from Gibbs and others at Redskin Park and twisted them, stretched them, insinuated made up B.S. about them, told outright LIES regarding them, as well as edited and taken quotes out of context to fit some asinine angle in his article. And HE'S worried about being treated fairly?? Hello pot. This is the kettle calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 OK I'll say it. Nunyo's a wuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Good grief. I've heard of rocks and glass house but damn Nunyo. That's picking up part of the mountain and throwing it there. If he's willing to write the stuff, knowing he will draw the ire of the fans, then he should be willing to face it. Hey, if in fact he believes that strongly in what he's writing and where he gets it from, then it shouldn't be a problem. Not saying he has to do a chat or whatever, ( because that would mean defending himself to a degree), but certainly would go a bit of a way to bridging the gap he's created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 Your prolonged version sounds like a great idea.. Anything to get a "form" of communication open but ensure you ask him how often he visits the park and talks to the people.. His editor/s also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Well, if Nunyo's being truthful in saying that his main problem with appearing here is that he's uncomfortable with one particular staff member, I suspect we can work around that. Mr. Demasio, if you're reading, please accept Extremeskins.com's open invitation to conduct a chat or Q&A with any of the other six staff members here, each of whom would conduct it with the same level of professionalism and courtesy as has been granted each of our previous interviews, and which our members and guests have come to expect. This is not about personalities---or at least it shouldn't be. This is about the open exchange of information and opinion. If you'd like the opportunity to present yours in this forum ... the floor could be yours. Just say the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 jeez........ if he's worried. Then let him record the interview. If something is said that he claims wasn't really said. Then he's got the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 We record all our interviews. It's in everyone's best interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 I said "HE" could record it. But, its the same jist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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