Bozman777 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I was pondering over how we could get rid of Mark and still keep him and his friend Gibbs happy. Is it possible that Mark retires and forfeits the remainder of his signing bonus. Then Mister Snyder hires Brunell as an assistant QB coach paying him an equal amount to his salary cap number? He would be the most highest paid assistant QB coach ever but if it didnt count against the cap everyone would be happy. Man I am thinkin way to hard how to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 i think if you retire, the bonus money is still accelerated, unless his bonus was structured like Coles (remember the 5 million in the air), but it probably is not. I would be up for the idea, but Gibbs likes him in there still, and face it, with Timmy gone, Brunell is probably a better backup then Campbell at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightenupSandyBaby Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Originally posted by Bozman777 I was pondering over how we could get rid of Mark and still keep him and his friend Gibbs happy. Is it possible that Mark retires and forfeits the remainder of his signing bonus. Then Mister Snyder hires Brunell as an assistant QB coach paying him an equal amount to his salary cap number? He would be the most highest paid assistant QB coach ever but if it didnt count against the cap everyone would be happy. Man I am thinkin way to hard how to get rid of him. Bingo!!! Lets hire you and fire Cerato! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratbert_rizzo Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I love it. Campbell is better than Brunell at this moment even without a playbook. I'm not sure how the salary cap stuff works because Ricky Williams didn't kill the Dolphins because he had to pay back some of his signing bonus and Deion somehow didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I'm pretty sure the NFL would be all over that like white on rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooney Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Where's Lawrence Taylor when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Originally posted by Snyder Dan I'm pretty sure the NFL would be all over that like white on rice On what grounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Originally posted by skin-n-vegas On what grounds? on the grounds that it is sketchy as all get out and goes against the spirit if not the letter of the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozman777 Posted April 28, 2005 Author Share Posted April 28, 2005 Brunell in a dark alley....:paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Originally posted by Snyder Dan on the grounds that it is sketchy as all get out and goes against the spirit if not the letter of the law What am I missing here? He wouldnt be a player any longer, therefore not under contract? I'm not being a smarta$$ here, I swear. I don't see how it is shady at all? another question though, Did Detroit have to suffer a cap hit when Barry retired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Not to be morbid, but what are the implications if he dies during the course of the contract? Is there a cap hit? Does it depend when and how? I am certainly not wishing ill towards the guy, I'm just curious about it as a hypothetical question. Like the Korey Stringer situation in Minnesota - did his salary count against them the whole year, even though he died in preseason? Cause that's the only thing I can think of that would negate the future contract implications of Brunell's deal...sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Instead of giving Lavar 50 gazillion dollars to play football, Snyder should hire Lavar to polish his trophy. Sure Lavar will be paid much more than your average trophy polisher, but who is to say he doesn't deserve it? Oh, by the way, Lavar also signed a contract to play football for the league minimum. Now there are some important differences between my example and the suggestion originally posted in this thread. The most important distinction is that Brunell would be retiring rather than playing for an artificially low salary, but in both cases it is a conscious effort to circumvent the NFL salary cap rules, and if one is wrong I can't imagine how the other is OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddyShoo Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Remember when Gibbs said something on the lines of "Mark still has an important role on our team next year"? Since '06 will undoubtedly be his last year, and wtih Gibbs' apparent lack of confidence in Ramsey, I'm not surprised one bit that we drafted Campbell in the first. In Joe's eyes, Mark will have 1 year to impart his "wisdom" on the kid. In my opinion, Brunell will be on Campbell like white on rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Guys, this is pretty basic stuff. You can't "forfeit" your signing bonus. You can't. The NFLPA wouldn't allow it. You know all that talk about Coles giving his signing bonus back? It was complete and utter horsebunk. Spewed by people who don't understand cap economics. It's not allowed. It never was. It never will be. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Originally posted by Die Hard Guys, this is pretty basic stuff. You can't "forfeit" your signing bonus. You can't. The NFLPA wouldn't allow it. You know all that talk about Coles giving his signing bonus back? It was complete and utter horsebunk. Spewed by people who don't understand cap economics. It's not allowed. It never was. It never will be. Try again. Didn't Barry Sanders and Ricky Williams have rulings go against them? The difference with Coles is that he was not retiring, but I'm not sure the NFLPA would win the case, although they certainly would try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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