3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I believe the key to the offense has been underneath our nose for over a year now. Its a no name blue collar running back whose name has not been sneezed on since the vikings game. A Vikings game in which he was uber productive looking like he was born for Gibbs counter trey. 26 carries for 118 at 4.5 yards a pop and 1 td. This back I speak of is Ladell Betts. He seems to have been lost somewhere in all the CP trade and Draft hype of the last year. Did anyone else see this man bring his A game in his lunch pail every opportunity? This is my first post but have been viewing for possibly 2 months. All I have seen is whining about mike williams (glad we didnt pick him) and how Gibbs has lost it. bah Humbugh. Where is the positivity and good vibe. Our football god is back in charge!!! Yet, all I see is negativity towards him. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by 3rd Generation Die Hard I believe the key to the offense has been underneath our nose for over a year now. Its a no name blue collar running back whose name has not been sneezed on since the vikings game. A Vikings game in which he was uber productive looking like he was born for Gibbs counter trey. 26 carries for 118 at 4.5 yards a pop and 1 td. This back I speak of is Ladell Betts. He seems to have been lost somewhere in all the CP trade and Draft hype of the last year. Did anyone else see this man bring his A game in his lunch pail every opportunity? This is my first post but have been viewing for possibly 2 months. All I have seen is whining about mike williams (glad we didnt pick him) and how Gibbs has lost it. bah Humbugh. Where is the positivity and good vibe. Our football god is back in charge!!! Yet, all I see is negativity towards him. :dallasuck No I actually saw Betts miss blocks fail to pick "must have" make able first downs. Other than speacial teams, I don't think that Betts did anything to impressive. I still think that Rock should be given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 He cant seem to stay healthy is why he hasnt gotten a chance with the sprained ankles and the broken fore arms.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 Didnt mean to pre maturely post that but here is the rest (cont. from pervious post) Anyways my running game next year consists of 10 hard nosed runs by betts. 15 "game breaker" carries for portis. by gamebreaker I mean pitch outs stretch plays reverses and possibly screens. these plays specifically all designed to get portis loose in the open lookin for the home run. This will keep portis fresh for the game and fresh for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Betts will probably be given more chances this year, but I don't think it's fair to use the Vikes game as an example of his usefulness. He did perform well against them, but they gave up 125 yards-per-game last year. He was below what the average back got off them... Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 26 carries for 118 at 4.5 yards a pop and 1 td. if we can get half that a game from him and let portis slice up the D along with bangin White for those tough to gain short yardage situations I think we will be on point runnig the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Betts is nice depth, but he's not going to un-seat Portis. Manuel White also adds a new dimension in the Gerald Riggs mold. Welcome, BTW. Positive posters always welcome:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convince Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 the real sleeper may be Manuel White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 thanks for the welcome, with me the skins glass is always half full. Im not looking for a dethroning of CP yet a lightning/thunder combo. My only complaint with CP is he looks for homerun too much. Granted Vikes D was ssuspect last year they WERE a PLAYOFF team and betts made the most out of his chance. If I remember correctly he had a few REAL NICE special teams run backs and thats not even his genre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 What was missing from last years running game compared to the Gibbs I era was the clock eating runs. This year White (5th round pick) and the return of Jansen and the addition of Rabach, will help us chew up time at the end of the game. I think Portis is a great back, but he cannot run through the middle and pick up 4 yards a carry at the end of the game. Our fullbacks should also help us push it into the endzone when we get inside the five. Also, the deep passing threat, with Ramsey to Moss and Patten will not allow the defense to stack everybody on the line. This will give Portis the room he needs to break big plays. I like our off season. We may not be the off-season champs of '05 but we will a competitive team on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Again welcome, I think Betts and Portis is a good mix. I'm not suggesting a Thunder/lightning approach, because I don't think that works (Alstott and Dunn was the best of that combo that I've seen and still it wasn't the best). But, Betts has some qualities that Portis doesn't and vice versa. I'd love to see CP carry 20-25 times with a 5yd/carry average, with Betts carrying 10-15 times with a 3.0-3.5ypc but alot of converted 3rd downs and 4-6 TD's (mainly goal situations). I think mixing these guys up and using Betts more will help Portis in the long run with his yards and his endurance in a 16+ week marathon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by jimster Betts is nice depth, but he's not going to un-seat Portis. Nor should he. I think Betts will be fine if he gets a few carries per game to spell Clinton. I don't think the distribution should be 15 and 10 though. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by 3rd Generation Die Hard This is my first post but have been viewing for possibly 2 months. All I have seen is whining about mike williams (glad we didnt pick him) and how Gibbs has lost it. bah Humbugh. Where is the positivity and good vibe. Our football god is back in charge!!! Yet, all I see is negativity towards him. You haven't been reading very many posts lately then. The naysayers are being driven back Don't classify posts by Hooper and a few others as representative of the whole. The fact is, I'd wager it's about 10% that are eternal fatalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 i just like the hard working attitude betts brings to the table and think he makes for a great Skin. Im glad to see there are other "die hards" in this thing for the long haul as well as Gibbs and I. Fight on Fight on till you have won sons of washington....RAH RAH RAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Isn't White supposed to be trying out at H-Back? Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 He is real versitile as well as broughton from the citadel. I believe this may mean Rocks term in DC is coming to a close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I liked what Betts showed last year. I think he was more impressive then Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Betts is a good backup. He doesn't quite pound the tough yards or break big plays, but he's solid as a change of pace/speller for Portis. White will be the puncher that Betts really can't be. It should allow Betts to perform in a more natural role rather than trying to be a battering ram. I like all the backs and Betts will have a nice nitch next year. btw... Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCnDaHouse Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I think not having Jansen last year as well as the inconsistent/poor play of the LG and C positions caused the running game to suffer. If we can keep the current starting lineup intact and get better play out of Dockery we might solve a lot of the offense's problems. I think White and the other RB we picked up in the draft may help out in short yardage situations. I do like how Betts and Portis fought for the extra yardage last season. MC :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Betts is a better fit for Gibbs offense, but his achilles heel is his inability to pick up the blitz. This is why Gibbs' original intention of making him the 3rd down back was so horribly wrong and backfired (see Ravens game). Putting Betts in for entire series to spell Portis is the way to go. I agree he should get 10-15 carries a game. ----------------------- First Generation Riggo-toni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by Die Hard You haven't been reading very many posts lately then. The naysayers are being driven back Don't classify posts by Hooper and a few others as representative of the whole. The fact is, I'd wager it's about 10% that are eternal fatalists. This isnt turning into a family fued between diehards is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I like Betts and hope he works out but he will not if he doesn't pick up blitzes on 3rd down. He needs to simply not whiff anymore and he will become more valuable to our team. ST-wise and backup RB-wise he is pretty effective, but in 3rd down situations where he is needed (to be a complete solution) he has underperformed and needs to clean it up or he will get unseated by an up another player that can block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Fever Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I said last year that what this team seemed to lack that other Gibbs teams had was that “Hammer” that you could feed the ball to when you had third and one or when we were on the goal line. That’s why I was excited to see us draft not one but two potential “Hammers”. I certainly don’t feel that either pick was wasted. I would have loved to see Betts emerge as more of a power back last year but other than one solid last game he wasn’t as productive as I hoped he would be. When he got chances in close he couldn’t punch it in. He lacks the break away speed of Portis as well. He’s a nice back up though. If I remember correctly Rock was given the chance a couple of times last year to be a short yardage guy too and it didn’t work out. That’s not to say that he didn’t make contributions in other ways. He was solid on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 Couldnt agree more on the ravens game, gotta give ed reed credit on the play seeing as he was DPOY and much faster than betts. i should have rembered the playing seeing as it unfolded in front of my face 6 rows back in the endzone he scored in. Betts for a series sprinkled in every 3rd series or so with white or broughton busting it open on the goaline sounds like a game plan to me! Now we need to reteach ourselves on the forward pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Generation Die Hard Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 "This isnt turning into a family fued between diehards is it?' never just a little brotherly rough housing :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.