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Michael Wilbon

Washington Post Sports Columnist

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/04/23/DI2005042300651_pf.html

Welcome to another edition of The Chat House where Post columnist Michael Wilbon talked about the Wizards and the NFL draft, Monday, April 25, at 1:15 p.m. ET .

The transcript follows .

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washingtonpost.com: Michael Wilbon is in the Chat House and will post his first response in 4-5 minutes. Thanks for staying tuned.

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Richmond, Va.: I'm not worried about Arenas at 1 for 50 but who is going to stop Ben G from going for 30 every game?

Michael Wilbon: Good question to start our Chat session today...My problem with the Wizards in this series isn't if they have enough scoring, it's whether they have enough defense. The Bulls, an offensively challenged team to be sure, scored 103 points yesterday even though they missed their last six foul shots (or six of eight since Nocioni hit the last two...That's essentially 109 points for the Bulls, which is way too many. And Gordon, after being guarded closely by Larry Hughes early, had too many open catch-and-shoot looks late. I know Arenas won't score fewer than 25 points in Game 2. But I would think the Wizards will hold down Gordon better than that Wednesday night...If they let him get off like that again, though, they're in trouble.

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Boulder, Colo.: What happened to the Wizards in the 4th Qtr?? And any word on Kwame's status? Thanks!

Michael Wilbon: Kwame appears to be okay and will play Wednesday. A bruised knee is what he suffered when Arenas knocked Nocioni back into Kwame...He should be okay, and the Wizards need him to play just like he did in Game 1.

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Fairfax, Va.: Does Northwestern alum Luis Castillo have to sit out four games for his positive steroid test? Seems like some punishment should be in order or the number of "one time" pre-combine users will jump quickly since there is no NFL related downside.

Michael Wilbon: I would agree with you, but there apparently has been no such ruling yet...I was just asking about that when I walked into the studio from the airport and will have to make a phone call to the NFL to find out for certain...

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Washington, D.C.: Any word on Kwame Brown's knee beyond Dr. Brown's self-diagnosis of "hyperextended cartilage"?? I didn't recognize Kwame last night ... where has THAT player been for four years?

Michael Wilbon: He plays like that against the Bulls. He has this understandable rivalry with Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler of the Bulls, two high school guys who entered the NBA in his draft class. And he wants to show Michael Jordan (who wasn't even attendance) how well he can do on the big stage. If he just got those kinds of numbers every night...Or played against the Bulls every night.

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Silver Spring, MD: Kwame has had a few nice games recently, and he said that he prefers playing away from home. Do you think he's permanently soured with Washington and will definitely leave even if he keeps playing big in the playoffs?

Michael Wilbon: Yes. If I was running the team (how risky would that be?) I'd be hopeful Kwame played well enough for this series for me to showcase him. I can't believe he'll be back here...but stranger things have happened. I'd be looking sign-and-trade, personally. And there are always takers for a 7-footer who's 22 years old.

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Santa Barbara, Calif.: Hi Mike,

Why do you rip Edwards as a narcissist(sp?)? Sure he bought a Bentley and likes his looks. He's still a good guy and great player, and he has confidence. He's not a me-first player and he did what he was supposed to do in college -- made plays and got better every year. Why the beef?

Michael Wilbon: Do you know the definition of a narcissist? It doesn't mean he can't be a good guy or a good player. He just thinks he's God's gift to football, to women, to advertising. There's no question he's an egomaniac...Will that prevent him from being a great player? Maybe, maybe not. We'll soon find out. Would I draft him? Yes, a million times over. Ahead of Mike Williams? No, I'd have taken Williams as my first receiver in this draft.

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Arlington, Va.: Hey Wilbon, I love your comments about draft speculation being pointless. We won't know for a few years if these picks are even worth it. Everyone SHUT UP and stop freaking out about whether Campbell was the right pick or not! Ahhhh, I feel better now.

Michael Wilbon: Glad to facilitate a good feeling on a Monday afternoon.

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Santa Barbara, Calif.: Hi Mike,

Why do the NBA playoffs take three years to play out? Why don't they shorten them up a little?

Michael Wilbon: Television. Television. Television.

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Great Falls, Va.: Do you forsee the redskins making any trades toward getting a #1 wr or starting MLB? as I see it, those are primary concerns in their roster. do you think it possible for the redskins to be effective in their passing game with their current crop of wrs minus rod gardner?

Michael Wilbon: Good question...I think it depends mostly on how much Patrick Ramsey has gotten used to the offense by the time camp begins in July. Yes, the receivers make a big, big difference. But it starts with the quarterback. And Ramsey seems to be a guy who wants to know beyond a shadow of a doubt he's the No. 1 guy, and we don't know how he'll take the drafting of Jason Campbell. But I'd like to see a little of mini-camp before jumping into any kind of judgment. Personnel changes alone don't promise anything. I think we've learned not to judge the Redskins by what they do in the off-season.

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Silver Spring, Md.: In the confines of your own home ... who are you rooting for between the Bulls-Wiz?

Michael Wilbon: I don't root for teams I cover for a living. I don't root for the Redskins. I could care less, in general, whether they win or lose and that goes for any team a sportswriter is covering.

I certainly love to see the local teams do well. It makes people around her (including my own family members who are from D.C.) quite happy. It makes people more likely to read our stuff and buy the newspaper. And in some cases I get to know people and root for their particular success. Eddie Jordan, Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, LaRon Profit come to mind. The Wizards are certainly easy to root for. They've got a roster full of likeable, professional people. Oh, asst. coach Phil Hubbard is someone I've known for years and years. Would I be upset if the Wizards win? Not at all. Are you kidding.

But I don't get emotionally involved with them. I have to write critically about them in a role I don't have with Chicago teams.

Have I rooted for the Bulls since I was 7 years old when they were an expansion team and my first basketball hero was Jerry Sloan? Absolutely. Will I ever stop rooting for my team? No, of course not.

I cover the Wizards for this newspaper.

The Bulls are my childhood team.

I think you see the difference.

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Wilmington, N.C./D.C. born and bred: Hey Mr. Wilbon ... What is the bottom line with the pick of Jason Campbell? Is Coach Gibbs really looking four years down the line and thinking of trading Ramsey? Who would you rather have??? Desperate Redskins fan ... Thanks

Michael Wilbon: I have no idea who's going to be better. And neither do people who really know football, like scouts and coaches and GMs. If they did, people wouldn't pick Heath Shuler, would they? I think Gibbs knows he isn't sold on Ramsey and that in his role as team president the club needs a quarterback who is a future big-time player at that position. I wouldn't read any more into it than that.

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Washington, D.C.: Love the chat, your column and PTI. As a fellow native Chicagoan and lifelong Cubs fan, my question is what has happened to the Cubs and Dusty Baker? Why hasn't the Cubs PR team been able to reign Baker and the whiners in this year and last?

Michael Wilbon: No PR machine can do that. The manager needs to take care of that or, as far as I'm concerned, be fired.

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Reston, Va.: Hate to change the subject from basketball to a real sport ... who is going to be starting at MLB for the skins this year? Am I to believe that Barrows who hasn't even run yet is gone be ready? or that one of these rookies are gone be ready in willams system?

Michael Wilbon: Gregg Williams, Joe Gibbs, you nor I has any idea at the moment who is going to start at middle linebacker for the Redskins. None whatsoever. If you think I'm overstating that, just ask either coach. It's way, way, way too early for coaches to committ like that. And I don't blame them in this case.

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Riverdale, Md.: Any thoughts so far on the progress of both of our local MLB teams? They have both certainly been surprisingly good so far.

Michael Wilbon: I'm sorry, but I do not now nor have I ever considered the Orioles of Baltimore, "our local MLB team." Never have, never will. The Nationals, our local team, have been great in my opinion. To be competitive, right off the bat, is a fabulous story.

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Hey moderator: What happened to the "columnists" selections on the front page nav bar? It's awfully hard to find everyone's columns without it.

washingtonpost.com: Please click on "Opinion" in the top navigation bar of the home page and see the drop down box to the right, "Regular Contributors." Or, click on "Columnists" in the roll down navigation under "Opinion" at the top of the home page. Again, see the drop down box to the right on the page. And here are the direct links for you ... Opinion Section , Columns , Michael Wilbon's Columns . Hope this helps -- Katie

Michael Wilbon: Thank you both.

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Playoffs: Michael,

I was most entertained by the Bulls Wizards game. Do you think this will be the most exciting series? If not who?

Where will Mo Cheeks next job be?

Michael Wilbon: Bulls vs. Wizards was exciting, wasn't it? Denver vs. San Antonio has potential for great drama, what with the Nuggets having won Game 1 on the road. Anything the Suns do is exciting. Try your best to stay up one of these nights and watch the Suns. That game late last night against Memphis made me tired...Mo Cheeks needs to be hired somewhere. I can't believe he will be out of coaching next season the way the NBA fires head coaches. How about, by the way, the Los Angeles Lakers? Just wondering. How about the Cavaliers? I think he'd be a calming influence on that program...

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Oak Hill, Va.: Merril Hoge called Mike Williams a guy who would convert a 3rd and 5 or a 3rd and 6 for you. Since that's the type of offense the Skins have been relying on for the past season, how come they avoided getting a dependable short-yardage receiver with SIZE and talent when it was available. Mr. Moss hasn't shown a desire or commitment to be here as of yet ... it's such a good feeling to be cheering for him as our number one receiver ...

Michael Wilbon: They wanted and desperately needed a cornerback who can play right away and they wanted this particular QB. You can't have everything in any draft. My question is what would have happened had the Packers not selected Aaron Rodgers? Would the Redskins have passed on him a second time? Peter King of Sports Illustrated, who has covered the league and its' college drafts for 20 years, said before the draft that Jason Campbell would be the most memorable player selected in five, seven years...

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Washington, D.C.: Mike, I know you cover the Wizards for the Post, so you're watching their series closely, but what do you think of the other matchups in the Eastern Conference? Any chance we could do a repeat Eastern Conference team to take it all?

Michael Wilbon: I'm watching all of the playoffs. I don't think the Bulls or Wizards can touch the Miami Heat. And I think Detroit will beat the Boston/Indy winner. So it's Detroit-Miami...And I'm staying with the champ until I see them lose. So I think Detroit will repeat in the east. Could Miami beat Detroit? Sure, of course. Shaq can beat anybody. It'll likely be a fabulous series. But I would take Detroit in six or seven right now...That could change based on injury, but that's my feeling four weeks from that series.

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Re: Campbell vs. Ramsey: I think someone nailed it when they basically said that the table has been set for Ramsey, and that is he's got one year to take this team to the playoffs (or close to it), otherwise his job is up for grabs. It's foolish to think that we should hand him the keys for the next 3-5 years without any consequence. He's been around now for a few years and it's time for him to show he's deserving of the job. That being said, don't you think it was absolutely moronic for Gibbs and Co. to pass on Mike Williams for a cornerback? Is there that much difference between say the top 3 CBs and the next 3 or 4 in the draft to justify missing out on a potential game-changing playmaker?

Thanks.

Michael Wilbon: I would have taken Mike Williams. But they wanted a CB, and there's no arguing the Redskins need a corner since they let a perfectly good one (Fred Smoot) walk away for no good reason as far as I'm concerned. But I agree with that first bit of analysis about Ramsey. That's just the way I feel about him and what he needs to do this season.

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Rockville, Md.: Mike - You mentioned you would have picked Mike Williams as the first receiver in the draft; would you have picked him at #9 instead of the CB? (Or are you too much of a Chicago Bear, defense, kinda guy not to take the hitter?)

Michael Wilbon: It depends not on the team, but on who you have. The Redskins need a receiver and a corner. If the corner in question was Deion Sanders coming out of FSU, I'd take Deion over Mike Williams. None of these things are absolutes, which is why everybody needs to remember that the draft is wildly speculative, which is why I don't become as obsessed about it as many of you. Just look at the first two rounds of the draft from three years ago and be honest about what you thought, what others thought, and what actually has happened since the selections.

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Atlanta, Ga.: Wilbon, are you going to the Tyson fight? I want to see you there cheering on Iron Mike ...

Michael Wilbon: If there's no NBA Finals game that night, yes, I'm going to the Tyson fight. I'd love to be at the Tyson fight. I've covered so many of them over the years, I can't imagine not being at one locally, even though those big Vegas fights which thrilled me to no end in the 90s are gone forever. I'd love just a taste of it...One more taste.

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Gaithersburg, Md.: Why do DC-ers love to make a quarterback controversy out of every thing quarterback related. How come the Redskins can't have a young QB in development without it being presented a threat to the current starter?

These people act as if you don't draft young gun until the draft following the retiring of the current slinger. There is no continuity there. What am I missing?

Michael Wilbon: As someone not from here, I understand your question/comment perfectly and have wondered the same thing in print. I think part of the reason is this isn't Green Bay or Denver or Kansas City. It isn't the most sophisticated pro football market. Most people here, many of whom are not from here or here for a short stint, are attracted to the event of the Redskins playing and the glamour. There's only one glamour position: quarterback. People aren't into the nuances of football here nearly as much as some other cities, like Dallas or Houston where football is God.

They're obsessed with speculation but D.C. (and I like this about living here) isn't hard-core about any sport, really. College basketball comes the closest. I covered the NFL--not the Redskins, the league--for four years (1986-90) and it was such a huge difference the way people care about football here vs. Denver or Green Bay or Philly or Chicago or San Francisco. It's a much healthier attitude here, in my opinion, even though people want the Redskins to win just as desperately as people in those other places I mentioned. I just think there are fewer people, because of the nature of D.C. and life in and around it, who are going to care as deeply about the fine points. Quarterback is easy and there's a tradition of it here.

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Oakton, Va.: You watch every NBA playoff game? How do you do it? Sitting through one game I start to feel like a couch potato, and after two I feel like a blob of junk. Do you run a treadmill or pay bills while watching the games?

Michael Wilbon: First of all, I'm at a lot of the games. Second, I watch sports because I love them. Couch Potato-ing is a wonderful thing. I'll watch both games tonight and all three tomorrow night. I'm sure there are things you put aside everything else to do or watch. I do that to play golf and watch pro football and pro basketball in the playoffs.

Oh, P.S.: I get paid to do that.

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A Skins Fan ina Cheesehead St.: Mr. Wilbon --

The fans up here are all a tither about the Aaron Rdgers pick. What's your view? Good or bad? Also, what have you heard about that Louisville kid the Skins drafted on the second day? He sounds intriguing.

Michael Wilbon: Fabuulous. How cool is it that the Packers appeared to have drafted their quarterback of the future. I think it's part luck (Rodgers shouldn't have slipped that far down) and brilliant...He can be coached up by The Great Brett for a year or two, then be ready by the time he's 25 years old. Great, great, great move.

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Pasadena, Calif.: Hey Michael. Why hasn't Eddie Jordan received any nods as Coach of the Year?

Michael Wilbon: He's gotten plenty of nods for coach-of-the-year, starting in my column. So have Scott Skiles of Chicago, D'Antoni of Phoenix, Carlisle of the Pacers...It's a nice little list. A lot of coaches have done good work this season. Oh, let's not forget George Karl of the Nuggests.

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Arlington, Va.: Do you think Len Pasquerelli really "has it out" for Joe Gibbs/Redskins? When does a reporter need to put personal grudges aside and just stay out of it? Have you ever had a long running fued with a sports figure or organization?

Michael Wilbon: Len gets a lot of stuff right, is a very smart reporter and he's been at it a long, long time...He's very, very good. But he has something going on with the Redskins, or I believe so anyway...I don't get it and won't spend any time trying to.

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Santa Barbara, Calif.: Hi Mike,

It seems like a lot of the young guys who've recently come into the league are finally cutting their playoff teeth. I think this will greatly improve the NBA's on court product. Do you think this will qwell some of the talk about a minimum age requirement in the NBA?

Michael Wilbon: No, I don't. The NBA wants an age limit and so do many of the members of the players' union who hate seeing veteran players lose their jobs to kids who are kept around for years before they can actually contribute at some meaningful level...

Okay, gotta run and do PTI. Be well. We'll Chat Monday.

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Talk about a slam at Redskins fans.

Michael Wilbon: "I think part of the reason is this isn't Green Bay or Denver or Kansas City. It isn't the most sophisticated pro football market."

"People aren't into the nuances of football here nearly as much as some other cities, like Dallas or Houston where football is God."

"They're obsessed with speculation but D.C. (and I like this about living here) isn't hard-core about any sport, really."

"I covered the NFL--not the Redskins, the league--for four years (1986-90) and it was such a huge difference the way people care about football here vs. Denver or Green Bay or Philly or Chicago or San Francisco."

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"Arlington, Va.: Do you think Len Pasquerelli really "has it out" for Joe Gibbs/Redskins? When does a reporter need to put personal grudges aside and just stay out of it? Have you ever had a long running fued with a sports figure or organization?

Michael Wilbon: Len gets a lot of stuff right, is a very smart reporter and he's been at it a long, long time...He's very, very good. But he has something going on with the Redskins, or I believe so anyway...I don't get it and won't spend any time trying to."

Even he knows that Don Vito Jr. has it out for us...

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Michael Wilbon: As someone not from here, I understand your question/comment perfectly and have wondered the same thing in print. I think part of the reason is this isn't Green Bay or Denver or Kansas City. It isn't the most sophisticated pro football market. Most people here, many of whom are not from here or here for a short stint, are attracted to the event of the Redskins playing and the glamour. There's only one glamour position: quarterback. People aren't into the nuances of football here nearly as much as some other cities, like Dallas or Houston where football is God.

They're obsessed with speculation but D.C. (and I like this about living here) isn't hard-core about any sport, really. College basketball comes the closest. I covered the NFL--not the Redskins, the league--for four years (1986-90) and it was such a huge difference the way people care about football here vs. Denver or Green Bay or Philly or Chicago or San Francisco. It's a much healthier attitude here, in my opinion, even though people want the Redskins to win just as desperately as people in those other places I mentioned. I just think there are fewer people, because of the nature of D.C. and life in and around it, who are going to care as deeply about the fine points. Quarterback is easy and there's a tradition of it here.

He never ceases to amaze me with how much ignorance he can display at certain times.

You don't have the longest sellout streak in all of professional sports because football is a passing fancy. :rolleyes:

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Michael Wilbon: As someone not from here, I understand your question/comment perfectly and have wondered the same thing in print. I think part of the reason is this isn't Green Bay or Denver or Kansas City. It isn't the most sophisticated pro football market. Most people here, many of whom are not from here or here for a short stint, are attracted to the event of the Redskins playing and the glamour. There's only one glamour position: quarterback. People aren't into the nuances of football here nearly as much as some other cities, like Dallas or Houston where football is God.

This is a completely accurate statement. If it fits, wear it.

I have been a card carrying season ticket holder since 1971 and every year I am amazed at the ignorance of the fans around me.

Touchdown=Good is about the extent of most 'Skins fans knowledge.

:2cents:

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"You don't have the longest sellout streak in all of professional sports because football is a passing fancy. "

But go to the games, half the stands are filled with people that are trying to impress clients or fans for the other team. We have a HUGE stadium and def. do get 50k true redskins fans there, the problem is that the other 30k+ are not standing and screaming when we are on D and the corp. people get mad when you do.

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Originally posted by daveakl

"You don't have the longest sellout streak in all of professional sports because football is a passing fancy. "

But go to the games, half the stands are filled with people that are trying to impress clients or fans for the other team. We have a HUGE stadium and def. do get 50k true redskins fans there, the problem is that the other 30k+ are not standing and screaming when we are on D and the corp. people get mad when you do.

Then tell them, "oh yeah? You're trying to impress your client? You don't even have box seats."

People who go to games and get pissed at you for cheering the D should be forced to watch the game on a big screen from outside the stadium. Like a drive in theater.

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The love of speculation in this area is an outgrowth of the managerlism that so pervades this region mixed with our desire for quick gratification. Even after several years of trying, we want that quick fix and we want it in a way that we KNOW what will happen come September. We love to be able to identify tangible assets and say that aquiring those assets will put us in the playoffs while failure to do so will condemn us to another losing season. It is almost always consistent execution of the little things that can mean the difference. We tend to focus on someone's 'resume' as opposed to thinking about how he fits into the team. We forget that Joe Gibbs greatness isn't that he recognized great individual talent but that he could craft together individual talent in a way that maximized the output of the whole.

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Originally posted by daveakl

"You don't have the longest sellout streak in all of professional sports because football is a passing fancy. "

But go to the games, half the stands are filled with people that are trying to impress clients or fans for the other team. We have a HUGE stadium and def. do get 50k true redskins fans there, the problem is that the other 30k+ are not standing and screaming when we are on D and the corp. people get mad when you do.

This is an excellent point. Having a long sellout streak only proves that there is a ton of disposable income in the area.

I don't have season tickets but I watch the Redskins with more tenacity and anxiousness than a lot of the people who attend the games each week.

DC has its share of knowledgeable and loyal fans (this site is an example of that) but as a city it isn't nearly as united behind the team as others are. Washington is a very transitional city and doesn't have the amount of 5th generation fans that other cities do. This causes there to be fewer fans and fewer knowledgeable fans.

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Please, Dallas and Philly have far, far more idiots.

There's a reason the most intelligent fans of other teams come here to a Skins message board to talk football.

And the idea that College basketball, or any other sport for that matter, holds even the dimmest candle to the Redskins is ludicrous.

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Grass is always greener.

You've got to be kidding me with this crap. You know the only thing I get respect for (from other fans) in being a Washington Redskins fan?

The fanbase. Every football fan gives props to how much the fans care and how aware/informed they are.

Wilbon seems to have a distain for talking about the Redskins, probably because he's asked so much about it, that shows a passion. Wilbon himself cuts off Redskin questions because he sees so many in chats...

If you don't want to talk Redskins and accept they'll be infinately more important than anything else you want to talk about, Wilbon, then find another market.

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Originally posted by Darth Tater

The love of speculation in this area is an outgrowth of the managerlism that so pervades this region mixed with our desire for quick gratification. Even after several years of trying, we want that quick fix and we want it in a way that we KNOW what will happen come September. We love to be able to identify tangible assets and say that aquiring those assets will put us in the playoffs while failure to do so will condemn us to another losing season. It is almost always consistent execution of the little things that can mean the difference. We tend to focus on someone's 'resume' as opposed to thinking about how he fits into the team. We forget that Joe Gibbs greatness isn't that he recognized great individual talent but that he could craft together individual talent in a way that maximized the output of the whole.

"managerlism"? Is that a Star Wars character? What episode was he in?

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I don't think I've lived in a place where there are more fans of teams out of town than this area. Let's take my company, for example. Plenty of Eagles and Giants fans in this company, but not too many Redskins fans. In fact, the guy I've been talking about the draft with is an Eagles fan.

Maybe it is that most people in this area are originally from somewhere else. In any case, I think the fan base for the locals is thinner than one might think.

Jason

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