Spaceman Spiff Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I looked and didn't see this posted so here you go... http://redskins.scout.com/2/374031.html Views of Campbell plunged when taken by Skins Skins Media Bias: Caught Red Handed By Rich Tandler Site Editor Date: Apr 25, 2005 Tandler's Redskins Blog Ver. 4.25.05 One who praised Jason Campbell prior to draft day is now laughing at the Skins for taking him. I'm not one to whine much about media bias against the Redskins. Yes, there is a lot of negative reporting about the Redskins. It's hard to find a Skins draft grade out there above what I got in high school physics (and there's a reason I'm not a rocket scientist). My line of reasoning has been based on the fact that until they make the playoffs again or at least post a couple of consecutive winning seasons, the critics will be out there. Sometimes, however, the critics get caught in a biased moment. When something they said in a context that doesn't involve the Redskins suddenly does pertains to Danny Snyder's team, the positive spin becomes inoperative and turns negative, or vice versa depending on the situation. Read the following statement and tell me who made it: Campbell looked really good -- so good that you find yourself wondering: How can a scout watch this kid and not label his arm, athleticism and field presence all first-round gifts? Was it Joe Gibbs or Vinny Cerrato? Auburn coach Tommy Tubberville? Some homer Redskins blogger out there? No, it was said in this article by Peter King. Yes, the very same Peter King who annually draws the ire of Redskins fans when he leads to charge to block Art Monk's entry into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The very same Sports Illustrated writer who hasn't had anything good to say about the Redskins since the Norv Turner era. To say that he is ga-ga over Campbell in the article, which was published two weeks before the draft on April 11, would be an understatement. You have to click over to the third page before you find the nut of the story: Next I watched Campbell. My first question was: Where's this guy been hiding? The simple answer: Behind Brown and a very big Cadillac. Campbell is 6-4 3/4 and 230 pounds. His pass-drop is quick and textbook perfect. He sets up well in the pocket, bouncing athletically until he finds his receivers. He never flinches against a pass rush, moving deftly this way or that to avoid traffic. He throws on the run better than Rodgers or Campbell. On one throw against Kentucky last fall, he rolled out from his 46 to his right, then flicked a sideline throw 19 yards downfield for an in-stride completion. That's the kind of throw he'll be asked to make 100 times a year in the NFL. He concludes in regards to what quarterback the 49ers should draft among Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers and Campbell: I hope they take another look at Campbell. I sure would if I were Mike Nolan. But, hey, if you're Joe Gibbs, you're a fool to make the trade for the 25th pick in the draft in order to take a quarterback who is in the writer's view an equal to the #1 overall pick, according to King. On Monday on PTI, King literally laughed at the Redskins for drafting Campbell, saying that it was obvious that the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing. He made absolutely no mention of the fact that he thought that Campbell was Smith's equal. If he did, then that would have blown the whole media template established that the Redskins are the gang that can't shoot straight. If you're trading a couple of mid-rounders for a shot to get an guy who's as good as the best quarterback in the draft, that's a pretty shrewd deal. That's something that, to the Peter Kings of the world, the Redskins can't make. So, just like in the Nixon White House, previous statements become inoperative. Campbell's talents are first-round gifts when another team might be looking at him. When the Redskins take him in the first, they're bumblers. We're always suspected such things, but now we have the goods on at least one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 do me a favor bro....that guy doesn't deserve any spam....remove the @ symbol from his address...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by KINGBRICE_28 do me a favor bro....that guy doesn't deserve any spam....remove the @ symbol from his address...... Yeah, sure...it was just part of the article, i'll go do it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpgirth Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I saw King on PTI, busting the skins nuts sells as the media sees it. It isn't the redskins it's Snyder. Some day Snyder is going to stick that Lombardi right in the media's mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSource Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Peter King is a piece of :cuss: He'll get his someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 On Wilbon Chat house he mentioned Len Pasta Belly's biased as well. I cant wait for the skins to win the Trophy and then take a picture mooning the camera with the trophy and send it to King and Pasta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I posted tonight from ESPN where he said: He was going to be a "VERY VERY GOOD" Qarterback.. Great future.. Doesnt know why the Redskins picked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 An argument can be made that the Redskins got the #1 cornerback and the #1 quarterback in the 2005 draft in terms of pure skills, size and upside. We will see if both players turn out. What's funny is that nobody ever criticized the 49ers for making a deal with Tampa to acquire Steve Young when they already had an 'in the prime' Joe Montana as their starting qb. Yet the team ended up needing #8 when Montana had back surgery and then elbow surgery and missed parts of several seasons. This was all BEFORE Young became the full-time starter and Super Bowl champion on his own, throwing 6 touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Go read the whole King article http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/04/11/mmqb.draft/index.html He practically has orgasms over JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I think you can legitimately love a player, and still question whether it is the right selection for a team to take. But I also think this goes a lot deeper than that. King certainly looks like a hypocrite here. Nice catch by Tandler and thanks for posting it Spiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 King is the same guy that thought Wuerffel would throw for 3,700 yards and 25 touchdowns for the Redskins in 2002 I wouldn't believe his PRE draft assessment of Campbell NOR his POST draft assessment King is a gossip columnist that attends parties and works the phones to get information he can use in his columns. What does he actually know about the NFL, especially prospects? Do you really think this guy does any real scouting? He picks up the same magazines and online draft services as the rest of us to get a gauge on players about to be selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljer Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 King is a gossip columnist that attends parties and works the phones to get information he can use in his columns. And, don't forget, he can work a buffet table at those parties like no other. Except for Lenny of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project myu Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Which one's the guy who constantly predicts every year that Jake Plummer will be MVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlett316 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by project myu Which one's the guy who constantly predicts every year that Jake Plummer will be MVP? King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I don't like King anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by Tarhog I think you can legitimately love a player, and still question whether it is the right selection for a team to take. But I also think this goes a lot deeper than that. King certainly looks like a hypocrite here. Nice catch by Tandler and thanks for posting it Spiff. I think you nailed it Tarhog. King hasn't waffled on his love for Campbell, but he still doesn't think that means the Redskins made the right move. From his MMQB Column this morning: 3. I think, when history judges this draft, one of the best five players in it will be Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell, who went to Washington at No. 24. That isn't to say Washington did a smart thing, paying a ransom for the pick -- particularly when it already has another quarterback there who's good enough to win with and considering Joe Gibbs will be at some racetrack by the time Campbell is an experienced starter. I'm just commenting on the quality of the player. He's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard saunders Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I see this kid possibly starting some games this season. Fans are upset now.....wait until preseason. Two bad games for Ramsey, and then two more by Brunell........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard saunders Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 King really covered his butt with that MMQB article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtandler Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by richard saunders King really covered his butt with that MMQB article. Sort of. But if the guy is one of the top five players in the draft at the highest-impact position on the field and all the Skins had to do to get him is give up a couple of mid-round picks and a Hall of Fame coach isn't happy with his current QB, why is that a bad deal? King's perception of Campbell didn't change. His perception of the Redskins didn't change. He just made the round peg fit in the square hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummagumma Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by tex I don't like King anymore. You used to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard saunders Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by rtandler Sort of. But if the guy is one of the top five players in the draft at the highest-impact position on the field and all the Skins had to do to get him is give up a couple of mid-round picks and a Hall of Fame coach isn't happy with his current QB, why is that a bad deal? King's perception of Campbell didn't change. His perception of the Redskins didn't change. He just made the round peg fit in the square hole. Agreed. King believes that this kid is going to be good, so he put this ditty out to cover himself. We need more of this crap exsposed and sent to guys that will cover it on a broader level. Good work Tandler:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 For him to say this: Peter King of Sports Illustrated, who has covered the league and its' college drafts for 20 years, said before the draft that Jason Campbell would be the most memorable player selected in five, seven years... It doesn't matter how much we gave up for him. That's the kind of praise that you throw at a Vick or McNabb or Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljer Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by Dirk Diggler For him to say this: Peter King of Sports Illustrated, who has covered the league and its' college drafts for 20 years, said before the draft that Jason Campbell would be the most memorable player selected in five, seven years... It doesn't matter how much we gave up for him. That's the kind of praise that you throw at a Vick or McNabb or Manning. The bad news is that King doesn't know what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I've been around for all our SB victories.. I thought nothing could ever top them.. But if we ever get another one. I'm telling you, there will be nothing like it because of what we fans have been through since the Skins fired a totally inept HC named Norville Eugene Turner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofer Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 King is a jerk. Pastirelli, um, Pastarini, um, Pastorilla, um, LEN P. is an idiot. they Don't like the skins, and I hope they never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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