halter91 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 It's hard to say, Marino was a late 1st early 2nd round pick. Brett Farve wasn't an early pick and look at his career. Ryan leaf was and look at him. Not this year though.:dallasuck :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Number5 But after comparing the draft choices by all other NFC teams as compared to ours.....I hate to say it but it appears as though you guys haven't gotten any closer to us. In fact, it appears as though the Cowboys have surpassed you as well. Agree? Disagree? Let me know what you guys think! Funny, I was just thinking about how after losing another SB you guys aren't really any closer to us... ZERO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Number5 Remember that Thrash's most productive year was still 10-15 catches and almost 250 yards less that Pinky's most productive year. If he was soooo much better, don't you think he'd still be an Eagle? The difference is we're not relying on him to be a #1. Then to add Gardner to the mix is even worse because according to the folks on this site, he's as good as gone! That has been changing of-late, especially the last couple days. Not everyone wants him here, but it looks like he might be staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F Landry Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Two words... **** You :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck And most importantly... :wewantd: EDIT: Oh and I forgot to say it... That fat @$$ Andy Reid to stop eating chocolate cake...jesus... The fact is Eagles fans are mad because they went to the super bowl and lost...AGAIN BTW go suck TO's cocl< like everyone else seems to be doing...the sports announcers are on his cocl< all day its sad really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Number5 "Personally I say the Skins go 8-8 and ARZ goes 8-8 as well. The clincher that will put ARZ in the playoff hunt will be their divisional record. With SF and the fast fading Seahawks, I say they go 4-2 with losses on the road to SEA and STL while the Skins go 2-4 with wins at home against the NYG and one against DAL. The Birds should sweep them." THEIR DIVISION WAS WEAKER HOME BOY! THAT'S WHY THEY WERE CLOSER TO THE PLAYOFFS! Maybe instead of trying to justify why the Cars are worse then you guys, maybe you should understand that because of their division, they were closer to the playoffs than the Skins.......sound good partner? NO, HOMESLICE. You were the smart guy that said that the Cruds had actually passed the 'Skins. Or had you forgotten that? Now, with this revisionism in your thinking, to wit, that the Cruds were closer to the playoffs because of their weak sister division, you've abandoned your lame view that the Cruds had somehow overtaken the 'Skins. BTW, clean up those skid marks from all the backpedalling you've just done. YOU FEELIN' ME, YO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by PortisFan101 Two words... **** You :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck And most importantly... :wewantd: EDIT: Oh and I forgot to say it... That fat @$$ Andy Reid to stop eating chocolate cake...jesus... The fact is Eagles fans are mad because they went to the super bowl and lost...AGAIN BTW go suck TO's cocl< like everyone else seems to be doing...the sports announcers are on his cocl< all day its sad really... That might be acceptable on other sites (language like that) you have visited. ...but me thinks you might get a warning on this site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by PortisFan101 Two words... **** You :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck And most importantly... :wewantd: EDIT: Oh and I forgot to say it... That fat @$$ Andy Reid to stop eating chocolate cake...jesus... The fact is Eagles fans are mad because they went to the super bowl and lost...AGAIN BTW go suck TO's cocl< like everyone else seems to be doing...the sports announcers are on his cocl< all day its sad really... Love the spirit and spunk, but, we really do try to foster discussion and educate our less fortunate fan friends like Number5 with facts, figures and a dazzling personality they don't know and can't match. Please don't let me see the types of things you were writing here continue in posts on any regular basis. A little indulgence of smack is ok from time to time. Just don't make it regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nice to Comment on my signature and not my post - you're owned. You don't know shiatsu so what "appears" to you doesn't mean shiatsu either... You were trolling what did you expect? Change your username to Number2 :pooh: Originally posted by Number5 I love it.....I make a simple statement and ask for constructive critisim and get kiddy comments from the peanut gallery. What a joke! Allow me to address everyone in this thread so far.... Evil Genius...good point, I based my observations on addition/subtractions..... Airbourne....TO has a clause (sp) in his contract that says if he misses any mandatory practice, the Eagles have the right to take back half of his initial signing bonus. He'll be at practice on Friday, plus with Runyan taking a pay cut, I think TO will be just fine! Kevin B......you sig "appears" to be a cry for help thats falling on def ears. What are you trying to do, convinvce the board or yourself? Faithful...got tanked....real cute, 3 points and we tanked right? Whats funny is that when we beat you guys on Sunday night, half the board, including yourself took it as "WE HAD THE EAGLES ON THE ROPES!" Well, we EAGLES fans can say "WE HAD THE DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPS ON THE ROPES......IN THE SUPER BOWL!" Skinstzar....."We have better recievers, better running back, fairly equal defense, you may have the special teams edge as well as QB. " TO alone is better than you whole receiving corps! You had the better group until you let Coles go, now you have nothing more than a bunch of track stars who are better suited to be Pro Bowl ST players than receivers. I simply stated that based upon your needs, with the exception of Rodgers, not to many were met. While Dallas loaded up on Defense, we filled in our cracks, and even ATL got what they needed. Your draft was mind boggling! Especially when you needed a Number 1 receiver, and let 3 of them slip through your fingers! Thus, in my opinion, everyone basically past you, even ARZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Art Love the spirit and spunk, but, we really do try to foster discussion and educate our less fortunate fan friends like Number5 with facts, figures and a dazzling personality they don't know and can't match. :laugh: Am I the only one that feels while Dallas had a "nice" draft, they failed to upgrade two positions of need, at WR, and CB? I think they overdid it a tad on the DLine, though Spears and Ware project as being good players for their scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz :laugh: Am I the only one that feels while Dallas had a "nice" draft, they failed to upgrade two positions of need, at WR, and CB? I think they overdid it a tad on the DLine, though Spears and Ware project as being good players for their scheme. Good point E_L but you forget their dime corner that's in for every play, especially against Washington--our pin striped black & white friend--or their "12th man." It can make all the difference in a 14 point swing [nonsense] win. With that said, their 3-4 is going to be really good next year, even if their secondary is a little lost, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones and Witten put up good numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCorleone Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Art - this statement indicates you think the NFC West was a weaker division than the NFC East. This is the sole reason why the Cards were closer to the play-offs than the Redskins. THEIR DIVISION WAS WEAKER HOME BOY! THAT'S WHY THEY WERE CLOSER TO THE PLAYOFFS! Yet looking at the final results of the 2004-2005 season, only the NFC West and NFC North sent two teams to the play-offs. Further, the NFC East had three teams under .500 ball, whereas the NFC West only had two. Clearly this contradicts your assertion that the East was a tougher division. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz :laugh: Am I the only one that feels while Dallas had a "nice" draft, they failed to upgrade two positions of need, at WR, and CB? I think they overdid it a tad on the DLine, though Spears and Ware project as being good players for their scheme. You're not the only one who thinks it. You're just the only one not apparently blinded by the media hype on the Cowboys. The ONLY reason people think it's a GOOD idea to draft so many defensive linemen (odd when you're going to a 3-4 and all) is because the Cowboys kind of told the world that's what they wanted to do. Therefore, they said they wanted to and they did, so it's good. Had they kept their intentions closer to the vest, everyone would wonder what the heck they were thinking doing nothing to improve receiver, corner, or, heck, immediate safety help, whatever you want to put here. The Cowboys are converting to a new scheme. They are going to have a major transition up front. A number of THESE picks won't make it three years in Dallas because there won't be room and they will fail. That's ok if at least one becomes a star . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canes/skins Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 we will prevail it will be alright we will soon be NFC east champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan4life Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz :laugh: Am I the only one that feels while Dallas had a "nice" draft, they failed to upgrade two positions of need, at WR, and CB? I think they overdid it a tad on the DLine, though Spears and Ware project as being good players for their scheme. I agree, while they did have a decent draft by filling a need, 3 DE's is a little much. It would have been like us drafting 3 CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by goldenster95 NO, HOMESLICE. You were the smart guy that said that the Cruds had actually passed the 'Skins. Or had you forgotten that? Now, with this revisionism in your thinking, to wit, that the Cruds were closer to the playoffs because of their weak sister division, you've abandoned your lame view that the Cruds had somehow overtaken the 'Skins. BTW, clean up those skid marks from all the backpedalling you've just done. YOU FEELIN' ME, YO? BOTTOM LINE is that the Cards came close to making the plaoffs. They added a QB during the off-season who is a proven winner to a team loaded with young talent. Add to the mix the current crop of draft picks to a terrible division and you have the making of a possible NFC West title contender. The Redskins on the other hand lost their top receiver only to replace him with the Pats number 2 or 3 and Coles. Your defense to two big hits lossing Pierce's play making and leadership and Smoots coverage and confidence. Rodgers may prove his worth but as of now, especially with the divisions that they play in, the Cards have not only passed the Skins as far as chances of making the playoffs, but if it were a game played on a neutral field, I'd give the nod to the Cards based on the Warner factor. He may not be what he once was, but he is still a tad bit better than the Dynamic Duo in Skins Country. Getting Jansen back is a plus for you run game, but honestly, can Rodgers match up with Fitz or Bolden? While you guys may throw around Taylor and Bowen, remember that Freddie Jones is a Card, and he isn't a bad TE either. The biggest thing to remember agan though and i can't empasize this enough is the divisions that they play in. Granted, if you switch the divisions, the question would then be asked.....could the Skins secondary match up with the Rams or could the Cards stop the Eagles offense....but that isn't the issue. The issue is again that the Cards based apon this draft alone added pieces that will put them into the playoffs while the Skins added pieces that will leave them again scratching their heads as to why they can't finish the deal. Both will be 8-8, but the Cards win out because of a 4-2 divisional record......cuzzo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by VCorleone Art - this statement indicates you think the NFC West was a weaker division than the NFC East. This is the sole reason why the Cards were closer to the play-offs than the Redskins. Yet looking at the final results of the 2004-2005 season, only the NFC West and NFC North sent two teams to the play-offs. Further, the NFC East had three teams under .500 ball, whereas the NFC West only had two. Clearly this contradicts your assertion that the East was a tougher division. . As I didn't make that statement, are you sure you want to talk to me? Though, yes, the NFC East was a better division, as it had the best team in the conference, and teams in the NFC East won 15 games against other NFC teams not in their division while NFC West teams won just 10. So, you REALLY don't want to go here that badly, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsNut73 ...anyone willing to bet money on who will finish with a better record (between the Cards and Skins) this season? Say $100...loser pays the money to Extremeskins??? I've got $100 on the Skins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCorleone Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 especially against Washington--our pin striped black & white friend--or their "12th man." I suppose on the day after a draft that left most a little luke-warm, the old stand-by of poor officiating is the ointment that cures all ills. Dallas suffered through a horrendous 2004 season with no pressure. If pressure on the opposing quarterback doesn't equate to better DB play in your eyes, then you haven't been paying attention. In this thread it has been mentioned frequently that the Redskins lost quite a few games by 7 points or less. Then the extrapolation that only if...you fill in the rewriting of history here... That can be said by so many teams in this league. Only if has been the mantra of every team that has lost the Superbowl except the Bills against Dallas in the blow-out and the Chargers against the 9ers in the blow-out. And then those fans may have played the only if game after their public humiliations. Only if may be the reason more fans aren't leaping from tall buildings more often after a dismal season. But still playing this ref card is not only a little ridiculous, but smacks of the sour grapes I have come to expect from fans of teams that are the also-rans. You can do better. I'd like to give a shout-out to my friend Alice. You know who you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumodat Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Number5 But after comparing the draft choices by all other NFC teams as compared to ours.....I hate to say it but it appears as though you guys haven't gotten any closer to us. In fact, it appears as though the Cowboys have surpassed you as well. Agree? Disagree? Let me know what you guys think! My first reaction is to agree with you. But then I read your post again. What do you mean the Cowboys may have moved past us? Ummm, this is the team that OWNS us, right? We can't beat them. It makes me sick. Maybe what you meant to say is the Giants surpassed us. I don't know if they have or not, but either way, I think we may be renting the basement apartment in the NFC East, once again this year.:doh: I hope not. I am just tired of saying the same thing this year as I say every year around this time which is, "we should take a run at the NFC East this year." Nah, not this year. And you know what? That does not make me any less of a fan than some homer who says we will win 11 games. I am a diehard fan! I am just starting to realize that I have been wrong every April through September, when I tell everyone how great we are going to play this year... I still hope for 10 - 12 wins, but I absolutely expect no more than 5 or 6. Someone said in another thread they would feed me $h1tburgers when they do so well, so I will save him the post. I will gladly eat them if we have a good season and crack the playoff spell. I don't see that happening though. Who knows, maybe after I recover from how terrible this draft was (Campbell) I will go back to my optimistic ways...I don't know, but I am so disappinted though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 By Number5's genius logic, the 8-8 Vikings and the 8-8 Rams were much, much better teams than the 9-7 Bills and the 9-7 Jaguars, ONLY because they made the playoffs. It must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCorleone Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 My error Art. Sorry. You are correct. The Eagles fan uttered that comment. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Number5 In fact, it appears as though the Cowboys have surpassed you as well. Agree? Disagree? Let me know what you guys think! Surpassed? SURPASSED? Have you SEEN a Cowboy Redskin game in 10 years? The Cowboys have been and will be better than us for quite some time, Number5. I can understand why you wouldn't be mired in the muck with teams as LOWLY as Washington or Dallas. Perhaps you've seen us "appear" better than them in the standings here or there, but DON'T let things like statistics fool you. The Washington Redskins DO have a GM. His name is Danny Snyder, and he works exclusively for the owners of the other NFC East teams. Does this let you know what I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz :laugh: Am I the only one that feels while Dallas had a "nice" draft, they failed to upgrade two positions of need, at WR, and CB? I think they overdid it a tad on the DLine, though Spears and Ware project as being good players for their scheme. You know who had a real nice draft though people may laugh.......the Jets! I like what they did with the special teams and look out for Cedric Houston......even though he was an 8th round draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottlo34 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Until we beat the Eagles and take over the NFC East, guys, I love you all but we really don't have a leg to stand on. Best for me to shut my mouth and wait until September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by VCorleone My error Art. Sorry. You are correct. The Eagles fan uttered that comment. My apologies. No problem. The Eagle fan was correct about the NFC East being a stronger division, of course. While that was the only area he was correct on, at least he got one part right . Interesting factoids too. The NFC East won 15 games against the rest of the NFC. The NFC South won 12 games against the rest of the NFC. The NFC North won 11 games against the rest of the NFC. And the NFC West won 10 games against the rest of the NFC. These are not including divisional games. The NFC East was clearly the strongest division within the NFC. The Eagles and Redskins were 5-1 against teams in the NFC not in the division. That's something I knew but hadn't really thought about and have begun to consider here as potentially important. The Redskins need to win division games, this is clear. But, within the conference, they were a pretty good team last year against the NFC. If the Skins can just pick it up a little in the division and maintain a solid conference record, there might be something happening . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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