lukie Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 are we a better team right now on paper then we were last year this time,or have we taken a step back..I think we are better..where do you stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 about even... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stricknine Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I say better....coles for moss....i say wash...patten I think helps...rabach is an upgrade...jansen coming back really helps...year of offensive film and experience to figure out what went wrong (ie.g. portis, passing game)...rogers replaces smoot...wash...taylor with a year under his belt...i think there is nodoubt we are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Our biggest upgrades are Jansen and Rabach. Those are HUGE upgrades over last year's players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter23 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 a year in the system with the return of jansen and the signing of rabach, and tweaking the system should make us better... its not like our WR Corps were great with Coles, and with it looking likely that gardner is coming back, we have an alright mix of WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukie Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 stricknine...i agree with you totally!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 we are absolutely, without a doubt, much better. and we will do much better this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljaofjesus Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Id take us losing the on paper champions for a offical super bowl champion one anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsForLife260 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ramsey will have another year under his belt. The line is a huge upgrade like mookie said. The coaches will def figure out how to fix the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsForLife260 Ramsey will have another year under his belt. The line is a huge upgrade like mookie said. The coaches will def figure out how to fix the running game. But he has AGAIN, not had a full year.. He had to deal with Brunell starting the majority of the season... I think we have either stayed the same or gotten a little better, but I think based on draft picks and free agency pickups that our division rivals have done better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANTAYLORISDAMAN Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 on paper its just a matter of opinion, but the biggest factor here is experiece. the players have played for joe gibbs for a year, joe gibbs has coached for a year. coach has a better feel for the game and his players. the players have been under the coaching and system for a season. Experience wise were much better, and IMO we are better on paper....i firmly believe we'll be talking playoffs come jan. 06;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousOne2K Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 we had a little improvement. nothing big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 We're a substantially better team in total than we were much of last year. The return of Arrington, Bowen, Daniels and Jansen are wonderful boosts in returning players. Barrow could be as well. The addition of Rogers helps ease the sting of losing Smoot. While I like Coles better than Moss and think in terms of overall ability we lost out here, that may not be the case if we were right about how Coles seemed to decline after hurting his toe. In all, we have now essentially lost one player without any direct replacement who appears to have immediate possibilities. That's Pierce. What most people don't really pay attention to though is the substantial improvement on special teams we've made this offseason with dedicated guys intended for special teams use almost exclusively. We have a couple of areas we lost at least a little in direct comparison (Coles for Moss, Gardner for Patten if we lose Gardner, Smoot for Rogers initially if not forever and Pierce for nothing). But an improved offensive line with Rabach, improved team speed and depth and a nice focus on special teams give us a better overall team than we had last year. With hope that translates into winning some more . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I think on paper we are about even, maybe a little worse than next year. Downgraded at CB and MLB, upgraded at C and OT (assuming you count Jansen coming back). Probably about even at WR. Hopefully players developing and coaches adjusting will make the biggest differences. Its a little dissapointing because I think we had the chance to greatly improve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by mookie0720 Our biggest upgrades are Jansen and Rabach. Those are HUGE upgrades over last year's players. Umm.. At this time last year, Jansen was on this team. To answer the question, we are probably better from the standpoint that we have a year under the system. Playerwise, it is probably a push right now. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 You have to look at it as relative growth. You also have to take into account that we're pretty old in a lot of key places, and we did not use the draft to get younger, instead we managed to tread water with our first pick. We lost a lot. If we end up winning it's all on gibbs. If we end up losing, it's all on gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukie Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 nice post Art!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by Ignatius J. You have to look at it as relative growth. You also have to take into account that we're pretty old in a lot of key places, and we did not use the draft to get younger, instead we managed to tread water with our first pick. If you are talking corner, we have young guys behind the starters who Williams likes very much. I think adding one CB was probably required. If you are thinking the DL, then I agree. It almost seems like the Skins ignore the DL on purpose when it comes to draft time. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by Stricknine I say better....coles for moss....i say wash...patten I think helps...rabach is an upgrade...jansen coming back really helps...year of offensive film and experience to figure out what went wrong (ie.g. portis, passing game)...rogers replaces smoot...wash...taylor with a year under his belt...i think there is nodoubt we are better. Coles for Moss is not a wash...that is a downgrade at this point. Rabach is a definte upgrade. Rogers for Smoot is NOT a wash. Smoot was a proven player in the NFL with experience...how can you say putting a rookie in for Smoot is a wash??? Patten vs Garnder may be a push - they are both unspectacular. Losing Pierce will hurt. At this point I think we are not as good - at least on paper. But after being paper champions the last few years, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiral Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I think we will have better team chemistry and that is more important then anything you can put on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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