bulldog Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 1. The Redskins feel that Phillip Daniels and LaVar Arrington will be healthy enough to start 16 games for us in 2005. Otherwise, that pick at #25 could easily have been at DE or LB. 2. Gibbs meant what he said about the wide receivers. He said that after acquiring Patten and Moss he was comfortable going into 2005 with those two added to the returning players. Not a lot of other people believed him about this point. But we passed up Mike Williams and later Roddy White in today's first round so, believe it 3. Gibbs by making this pick is saying to the fans and ownership that he and his staff (including perhaps a coach in waiting in Gregg Williams) are indeed planning for the longer-term and not just for this season. By all admissions, Campbell won't see the field in 2005 unless there are spate of serious injuries. 4. One of the quarterbacks we have now is going to be released, traded, etc. Campbell won't see the field as a rookie if Gibbs can help it, but the team won't inactivate a #1 draft choice for 16 games and have him sit up in the stands either. He needs to be down on the field seeing, feeling and smelling what it is like to be in the NFL. That to me means that one of three scenarios has to happen: 1. Ramsey is traded in a surprise move for a player selected today or for a pick next year. The odds on this are questionable, but not completely out of the realm of the possible. What if the Lions were willing to deal Mike Williams to the Redskins for Ramsey and a draft choice next year? 2. Brunell is kept until June 2 and then released. This is possible based on any remaining flexibility the Skins have with the cap, etc.. Gardner's status plays in here. 3. As some have mentioned in other posts, perhaps Hasselbeck departs for a late round pick next year. This is also possible if not probable. It will be very interesting to see what happens now. IMO Campbell will be the #2 qb in 2005, the question is behind which other player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyholetsgogrant Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 1. Ramsey is traded in a surprise move for a player selected today or for a pick next year. The odds on this are questionable, but not completely out of the realm of the possible. I think thats a very good idea, but i still think that ramsey has no trade value until he can have a decent season. What kills me is why the F*&^ would the lions waste another pick on a WR? , then it hit me, their probably going to trade him for some player later this year I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project myu Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by bulldog 1. Ramsey is traded in a surprise move for a player selected today or for a pick next year. The odds on this are questionable, but not completely out of the realm of the possible. What if the Lions were willing to deal Mike Williams to the Redskins for Ramsey and a draft choice next year? It will be very interesting to see what happens now. IMO Campbell will be the #2 qb in 2005, the question is behind which other player? You know, if Ramsey was traded, it wouldn't surprise me at all. What if Dolphins decide they still want him? But the gutwrencher is this.. I bet Brunell will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 The only problem with the "trade Ramsey" choice is, who starts? Brunell? Even if he has something left, (doubtful), he's not going to last long enough. Hassleback? He doesn't have enough to start on a regular basis. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 What if the Lions were willing to deal Mike Williams to the Redskins for Ramsey and a draft choice next year? I had a similar thought. However I don't see the Lions trading Williams. I think they might be a lot more likely to trade Charles Rogers as he's been a bit injury prone so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 . Gibbs meant what he said about the wide receivers. He said that after acquiring Patten and Moss he was comfortable going into 2005 with those two added to the returning players. Not a lot of other people believed him about this point. But we passed up Mike Williams and later Roddy White in today's first round so, believe it I think it is also a sign that indicates the Rod Gardner is coming back next season. The RG/Moss/Patten as a group can get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ramsey is NOT getting traded. NO WAY. Hasselbeck is toast. He'll be cut after pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by project myu You know, if Ramsey was traded, it wouldn't surprise me at all. What if Dolphins decide they still want him? But the gutwrencher is this.. I bet Brunell will start. You know, if we could get Jason Taylor for Ramsey, I would trade him to Miami in a heartbeat. Not that they would do this, but it would be worth suffering through a Brunell year. Hell, start Hassleback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Miami or Arizona would be good choices. Detroit or Cleveland deserve consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W&M Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ramsey is not getting traded. He's still a great value under the cap, and best of all, if he has a good year, we have him under contract for one more, meaning we won't have to pay big sums for a potential 1-year wonder. I continue to think Ramsey is a much better prospect then Drew Brees, and look at his turn around in the 4th year. Ramsey deservedly gets the team this year, also his 4th year. Brunnel is the back-up and Hassleback is toast. Gibbs even implied that he'll help place Hasselback with another team, thus ending the myster. This is go time for Ramsey (as Jansen says), while Campbell sits, learns, fixes his mechancics, and enters the Gibbs 3 year school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Bulldog, I doubt Gibbs would go directly against his word. He said Ramsey was our QB and he expected to win championships with him. Your line of thinking is on the right track there, but Brunell is the QB that will eventually get purged. The Campbell pick insures a soild guy to come in and challenge Ramsey in a year or two as Brunell will surely be gone by then. Campbell is better than Ramsey, so if he is any type of competitor he'll beat Ramsey out in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I was just on an Auburn board and heres what one poster said to me,after I asked just how good Jason is. he is the complete package, he is tall and strong, runs well in the open field with speed, has a very accurate delivery, can check of his rec very well, has the abillity to go deep.......... has the abillity to adapt quickly to different off styles of play...........He is a leader and a winner. that all i hve to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsRback04 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 1. Ramsey is not going to be traded 2. The Lions will never trade Mike Williams. Why on Earth would they? Of course, Mooch acted in great haste. Are we to assume this is the tip-off to a trade? Short answer, no. It is the tip-off to the steal of the draft. 3. Campbell is a great athlete, no doubt. But the draft is filled with great athletes. At what price did this guy come to us? That is the real issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Wow alot of great things said about Jason from this Auburn board. http://mb8.scout.com/fauburnfrm2.showMessage?topicID=88388.topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 This spells trouble for Brunell in the immediate future far more than it does for Ramsey...and no way Ramsey's getting traded this season (and not very likely next season, either...unless he's just mediocre all season this year). Campbell is insurance, cuz if Ramsey breaks thru he could very well want an unaffordable contract and leave like Smoot and Pierce did (I'm personally leaning towards Gibbs getting spooked by those two leaving and deciding against EVER being in a position of not having someone to step in should it happen again)...If Ramsey breaks out and decides to resign under an affordable contract, then Campbell becomes trade bait several years down the road (Campbell won't settle for sitting on the bench for the first 5 years of his career anyway)...and if Ramsey turns into Brunell, pt. 2, the team has a "Plan B" with a QB who might end up being even better than we ever thought Ramsey would be... So he's basically an insurance policy...but damn, that monthly premium is sky high... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbeskin Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 You obviously haven't read this article have you? http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=1545 Ramsey is not going any where this year. The only person that is going to trade or bench Ramsey is himself. He controls his own fate this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsarethebest Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by project myu You know, if Ramsey was traded, it wouldn't surprise me at all. What if Dolphins decide they still want him? But the gutwrencher is this.. I bet Brunell will start. interesting point regarding ramsey and the dolphins -- but the best trade would have been ramsey for surtain three weeks ago if we really planned to do a deal with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted April 24, 2005 Author Share Posted April 24, 2005 one point if the Skins do cut Hasselbeck and keep the others is who becomes inactive each week? you really can't take a #1 pick and make him inactive for an entire season. are you going to sit Brunell in the stands at age 35 as the #3. Brunell to me has to be toast if Ramsey and Campbell are both in the teams plans, short and then long-term. Either that or the Skins are going to carry all three on the active roster each week and deactivate another spot and go short there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I think the team will carry three QBs on the active roster. This is PRs year to either lockup the top QB spot or crater. Very doubtful he goes anywhere until he proves himself one way or the other this year. And even if down the road PR falls out of the #1 spot he could stick as the teams #2 instead of being traded away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I think Brunell will be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilberMarshall Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 So long Hasselbeck... wish you better luck elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by bulldog one point if the Skins do cut Hasselbeck and keep the others is who becomes inactive each week? you really can't take a #1 pick and make him inactive for an entire season. are you going to sit Brunell in the stands at age 35 as the #3. Brunell to me has to be toast if Ramsey and Campbell are both in the teams plans, short and then long-term. Either that or the Skins are going to carry all three on the active roster each week and deactivate another spot and go short there? That was my thought. If Tim is gone......who is inactive? Question..........can Brunell be inactive AND be on the side line as in a coaching position? Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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