NEEDAQB Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 It is just a hunch. But the way Gibbs benched Portis a couple times this year is a sign to me And Gibbs on comcast today was talking about Betts and seemed so exciting. He said never expected such a bounding style out of Betts. And loves the way he runs. He also said he is excited to see him start this week. I think we are in for a surprise. The high paid guys like Brunell and Portis may be gone this off season. I do not know how they will do it under the cap. But it is clear Gibbs is not as high on Portis anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Gibbs doesn't want to get rid of Portis because Joe Gibbs isn't a stupid man. The salary cap hit from getting rid of him would cripple your franchise monetarily and mentally. He's going to have to grow into what Joe Gibbs wants or Joe is going to have to cater to what makes him successful. They are married to each other, like it or not. I'm sure Gibbs will do what he's been doing his entire coaching life......get the most he can out of his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEDAQB Posted January 1, 2005 Author Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by Westbrook36 Gibbs doesn't want to get rid of Portis because Joe Gibbs isn't a stupid man. The salary cap hit from getting rid of him would cripple your franchise monetarily and mentally. He's going to have to grow into what Joe Gibbs wants or Joe is going to have to cater to what makes him successful. They are married to each other, like it or not. I'm sure Gibbs will do what he's been doing his entire coaching life......get the most he can out of his players. I think skins are going to have to take the cap hits on these guys now. I do not understand running a guy who does not fit the offense. It was clear he is more a Faulk type of back. He needs to run in space. Will Gibbs change his offfense ? Or take the cap hits and build a team that fits his style. One thing is for sure he can not run a pounding offense with a jaguar . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Just take the cap hits? I like how people say that without even thinking. Ok, so you cut/trade Portis and Brunell and their entire signing bonus becomes a hit for this next coming year. So about 15 million of Portis SB goes to 2005 along with around 7 million of Brunell's SB. So you lose both players and have 22 million of dead money. You are what, 8 million under the cap with Smoot, Pierce, and a few others to sign? So right away, you forget about them two and probably have to outright cut several others because of that decision. Then, next year, you'd have a MUCH WORSE roster than the one that just went 5-11/6-10....but hey, you'd have a power RB running the ball.... Please don't give the suggestion to cut/trade either player without fully understanding the ramifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGS_DADDY Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Yeah and while he's at it let's cut Sean Taylor too, I dont like the way he ties his shoe laces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 First you want Ramsey gone, now YOU want Portis gone.(because Gibbs NEVER gave ANY indication that he doesn't like Portis...you yourself made that up) What's wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood2k3 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by Skins24 First you want Ramsey gone, now YOU want Portis gone.(because Gibbs NEVER gave ANY indication that he doesn't like Portis...you yourself made that up) What's wrong with you? Exactly! They must be high if they think Joe Gibbs wants to get rid of CP. Some of ya'll go too far sometimes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 :sucks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by NEEDAQB But it is clear Gibbs is not as high on Portis anymore No. However, based on your posts it is clear that you're a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Seriously. One of the most assinine statements I've read on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 It's New Years guys, I bet the dude had a little too much to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by spjunkies It's New Years guys, I bet the dude had a little too much to drink. Haha, maybe... ...but maybe we should ask admin if they can keep that Waterboy avatar there permanently for him. This isn't the only offbeat thing he's posted so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Some avatars are worse then the waterboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat~man Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 some people are more dumb than i ever thought they could be , this thread should be locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Hey, at least my benchwarmer dude is smarter than Bobby Boucher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by ~kriztalmeth~ some people are more dumb than i ever thought they could be , this thread should be locked :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEDAQB Posted January 1, 2005 Author Share Posted January 1, 2005 yeah i must be high. Lets keep this great offense intact. I mean what were they ranked? top 5 i have to belive. Top 10? Top 20? play 30? not last?? Jesus. You act like i am saying cut Peyton Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by NEEDAQB yeah i must be high. Lets keep this great offense intact. I mean what were they ranked? top 5 i have to belive. Top 10? Top 20? play 30? not last?? Jesus. You act like i am saying cut Peyton Manning Thats right...nobody F^cks with the Jesus. You want to get rid of a running back who gained almost 1,300 yards? Also you act like the salary cap hit wouldn't be an issue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Also, not to mention how many games did Portis gain 100+ yards? How many games did we win? Correlation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Well, it's still early boys, but this may be....THE THREAD OF 2005!!!!! :1stplace: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by Westbrook36 Well, it's still early boys, but this may be....THE THREAD OF 2005!!!!! :1stplace: No kidding...westbrook, i know you hate the skins, but you do know the scent of :pooh: a mile away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by Aikmans Killer No.56 You want to get rid of a running back who gained almost 1,300 yards? Also you act like the salary cap hit wouldn't be an issue at all. Actually, Portis had 1315 yards rushing, 235 yards receiving, & 15 yards passing(QB rating of 114.6) for a total of 1595 all purpose yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by TK-IV II I Actually, Portis had 1315 yards rushing, 235 yards receiving, & 15 yards passing(QB rating of 114.6) for a total of 1595 all purpose yards. Just curious, what % of our offense does that make up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/WAS Team Stats Redskins TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 249 FIRST DOWNS (Rushing-Passing-By Penalty) 84 - 143 - 22 THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS 63/210 FOURTH DOWN CONVERSIONS 4/11 TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS 4079 OFFENSE (Plays-Average Yards) 963 - 4.2 TOTAL RUSHING YARDS 1648 RUSHING (Plays-Average Yards) 440 - 3.7 TOTAL PASSING YARDS 2431 PASSING (Comp-Att-Int-Avg) 271 - 488 - 16 - 5.45 SACKS 36 35 FIELD GOALS 19/27 TOUCHDOWNS 23 (Rushing-Passing-Returns-Defensive) 5 - 16 - 1 - 1 TIME OF POSSESSION 31:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by Aikmans Killer No.56 Just curious, what % of our offense does that make up? 79.8% Rushing only. Total offense = 39.1% Portis is also listed at #3 for receptions with 40 catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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