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GrapeApe, the answer is yes. For the modern society that has done the leastest with the mostest, I give you Argentina.

What they have failed to do in that country, given what nature and historical cirumstance have granted them, simply boggles the mind. But that's a story for another day.

The 'friendly fire' incident flat out sucks. Always have, always will.

Not much more to say about that.

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I'm going with the French. Yes they are a modern society with an above-average economy but what have they really done??

They started off as the saviours of Christian Europe under Charlemagne. They were one of the first places in Europe to recover from the fall of Rome. They couldnt compete with the Spanish when they were at their peak, they couldnt compete to the British when they were at their peak. Sure Louis XIV had a strong empire but he didnt do anything with it. Their revolution was a mess. At least after America revolted they were able to make things work. France fell into a dictatorship. The one time they reached prominence was when they were being led by a guy from Corsica (Napoleon). Ever since the Franco-Prussian war in 1867 they have been Germany's B%$h (3 invasions only saved by outside powers each time). Lets not even talk about the Vichy regime. They screwed up in Vietnam way worse then America did. Now they are just a bunch of snobby whiners.

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Oh i just want to make it clear that what happened is horrible but ****ty things like that are bound to happen when you are at war. It would be nice if friendly fire and other military mistakes never happened but the people flying the planes, driving the tanks are still human after all.

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I must tip my hat to the Canadians. Trust me, they ain't the French. TheCanadians stormed arguably the most difficult of the Normandy beaches and played a much larger role in the western campiagn of WWII than most of us realize.

Life in North America would be much different if the US and Canada didn't get along so well. Freindly fire sucks, and I hope Cananda realizes how much we Americans value their freindship. :peace:

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Henry,

Its nice to know someone knows about Canada's role at Normandy. Id go on a rant about Canada's wartime contributions to WW1 and WW2 but ill save you guys...lol. Most of the big battles in those two wars had some contingent of British colonial troops. The British prefering to give these troops the difficult and dangerous assignments.

If it hadnt been for the US Canada probably would have never formed in the way it did. It still nice to be able to say we have the longest undefended border in the world.

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As I said I wasnt gonna mention Canada's role in WW2. but Dieppe was quite a tragedy and learning lesson for D-Day. I dont know the numbers but most of the people who were lost were Canadians and a few Americans. To be honest Ive never heard of Anzio.

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Of course I hope you know I was kidding. You have to love our neighbors to the North. Especially after producing that cute little figure skater. In fact, several of thier female athletes were rather cute.

In Canada, do you get to see many NFL games?

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Ya i know you were kidding.

We get a full complement of NFL games on TV through FOX, CBS, ABC. We can also get Sunday Ticket which gets us all the games on Pay-per-view. Toronto usto get the odd exhibition game, i went to one back about 5 years ago, buffalo-green bay, but they havnt had any exhibition games since. Where I live im close enough to Buffalo and Detroit to drive to see games. Only been to one Skins game in Buffalo but im gonna try to go to a couple games this year and might make the drive to washington as i have a friend who is moving to Baltimore in June.

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Originally posted by Romo sits to pee

I'm going with the French.

You could have stopped there.

But I think you underestimate them. The French have contribued to Western heritage by providing the Germans with a great military history.

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Originally posted by redman

But I think you underestimate them. The French have contribued to Western heritage by providing the Germans with a great military history.

Very True!! Its so nice of the French to be considerate towards the German people.

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Romo sits to pee,

My condolences on the loss of your countrymen. In an unabashed display of US arrogance, let me say that we don't consider Canada to be our lapdog - because we consider you to be Americans who just haven't come to terms w/ it yet. (excluding of course the French wannabe whining Quebecois...)

While I too share my country's hatred of the French, the award for the country that's done the least with the most resources has to go to Angola. Pi$s poor people literally living on top of diamond mines.

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The craziest part of this friendly fire incident was that the guy was flying over a known training area, at something like 9000ft (keep in mind that the range of small arms is around half of that, and that's horizontal, not into the air) and thought that he was under attack. I mean, really.

The worse is that he actually did call ahead to the AWACS in the area and they didn't stop him.

The guy needs to have his wings ripped from his chest at a minimum. Hey, accidents happen, but that's a little bit much.

This is not the first time this kind of thing has happened. Remember, more americans were killed in the gulf by americans than by Iraqis, and the Brits got it even worse, having to resort to flying Union Jacks off the back of their tanks because if it wasn't an Abrams, it was fair target to some of the monkeys behind the switches (and it still didn't work completely).

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The real question I have surrounds the fact that he a national guard pilot. Ill admit i dont know much abou american military structure other then the basics but i thought the national guard was not for overseas combat but basically a reserve force.

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The biggest waste of natural resources is Russia. They've got Siberia fercripessakes!

As for Canada, they were major players in THE battle of the WWII - the Battle of the Atlantic. Once that was won, everything else was a forgone conclusion.

But when the Nazi U boats came within a hair of cutting the lifeline from America to Britain, forcing an isolationaist US to declare neutrality, and crushing the morale of all Europeans looking to Britain to hold out, it was the Canadians and that half assed reserve navy that stuck it out with the Royal Navy, provided the escorts (including those marvelous little corvettes), the base at Newfie, and the courageous merchentmen and ships that braved the fury of the wolfpack and kept the vital sea lanes open despite staggering losses of both lives and tonnage.

As Wellington said after Waterloo: "It was a near run thing!".

There would have been no D Day if it we hadn't won the Battle of the Atlantic. And the Canadians had a major part in that.

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Interesting fact regarding the Canadian Navy, and also how ****ed everyone in Europe was after WW2. At the end of WW2 Canada had the 3rd largest navy in the world. American being number 1. I dont know who #2 was, perhaps Britain, Russia? or Japan?.

Not bad for a country a tenth the size of the US and a country that generally dispises spending money on the military.

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Now this...im starting to get suspicious....

Did anyone hear about what happened at the Raptors-Pistons game in Detroit? The fans booed the Canadian anthemn. I hope it was, as some players suggested booing for the team not the anthemn

Oh and did anyone else here the US is planning to fingerprint everyone crossing the border into the US. I heard this on the radio but i havnt been able to find any articles about it on the internet.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2002/playoffs/news/2002/04/22/detroit_fans_ap/

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