Potato Sack Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 I'm simply worrying about the Eagles. I want to beat them as much as any other Redskins fan. But you all saw how we played Sunday. If we can't beat the Giants, we CERTAINLY can't beat the Eagles. The Cowboys? We can beat them if our offense finally clicks and limits penalties and turnovers. But the Eagles? McNabb is looking like a HoF QB, T.O. is T.O. And the Eagles defense is playing more aggressive than I thought they would play. That spells doom for our QBs if our offensive line plays like they did Sunday. The only way we will win is for our offense and defense to play absolutely perfect throughout both games against the eagles. No penalties. No turnovers. Just smart, tough, solid football. And even then, it comes down to a field goal. Sure...let's worry about the Cowgirls first. Yet, somehow, as much as I try, I can't get the thought of McNabb moonwalking all over FedEx Field out of my mind. Can someone quell my fears and tell me why I shouldn't worry about the Eagles as much as I am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 here is the thing. With Gibbs on the sideline, the magic is going to happen eventually. When I looked over the schedule before the season the Eagles game(s) and the Vikings, were ones I counted on being losses, even though I figured the Skins COULD steal one from Philly. Our defense is playing extremely well, but I have to admit that the offense has not come along NEARLY as much as I thought it WOULD have after training camp. We still have to put things into perspective. The Gibbs/Parcells first year comparisons are really unfair, considering a lot of the breaks the Cowboys had least year, coupled with a weak schedule. Hell even Jerry Jones admitted before week 1, that the Cowboys may improve as a team and it might not possibly show in the standings/final record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 That helped, I think. Every football nut can admit at this point the Eagles are looking phenomenal in just two games. My only hope is that they pull a reverse of last year. Meaning, they start off awesome and fizzle out. I doubt it....but it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 If the Redskins don't self destruct like against the Giants..... in 5 weeks we will be ready for the eagles. The Vikes could have easily won that game if not for their own mistakes (and some bad calls) The eagles D is currently giving up huge chunks of yardage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 True, Bubba. I think what got to me watching the Vikings and Eagle was Daunte's play. He really had a brilliant game. But it was the silly turnovers that cost them. I really really really hope whichever QB starts this week and throughout the year will finally wake up and start playing for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 The Iggles are soft up the middle. If we get some blocking there, Portis and Betts could make for a very long day for them. Hell, remember what we did with Davis at RB and Banks at QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 Banks at QB ...... SHUDDERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 The Eagles D is susceptible, but they won't typcially give up as many yards as they did to the Vikings. The Redskins D is playing pretty well too now, but I'm not sure many defenses will stop the Eagles offense this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by goldenster95 The Iggles are soft up the middle. If we get some blocking there, Portis and Betts could make for a very long day for them. Hell, remember what we did with Davis at RB and Banks at QB? They didn't have Simon and Walker then. If you can get through the DLine though, and start getting blockers to Simoneau, then you will see the Redskins ripping off significant chunks of yardage. I still think the key to the offense is Westbrook, who is starting to finally gain some recognition. He has the tools to amass 1600 total yards this year if he stays on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 The thing about the Eagles defense is that they are being ran and passed on at will, but they do have the ability to get turnovers. I mean I was following the MNF game in class on the computer and all I saw for the majority of the time was the Vikings purple line extending all over the virtual field, drive after drive, only to result in stupid penalties inside the 10, or a turnover. People write these things off in WEEK 2, and give the Eagles prop for the win, but if their defense remains that soft, eventually opponents will be putting it in the endzone, especially later in the season when teams become fundamentally better, and more solid in their offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 The Eagles have just played smart football the last two games, plain and simple. I will say, that if the type of defense we had in the 1st game shows up we will have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by NoCalMike The thing about the Eagles defense is that they are being ran and passed on at will, but they do have the ability to get turnovers. I mean I was following the MNF game in class on the computer and all I saw for the majority of the time was the Vikings purple line extending all over the virtual field, drive after drive, only to result in stupid penalties inside the 10, or a turnover. People write these things off in WEEK 2, and give the Eagles prop for the win, but if their defense remains that soft, eventually opponents will be putting it in the endzone, especially later in the season when teams become fundamentally better, and more solid in their offense. They played a certain defensive game against the Vikings, which was predicated on not giving up big plays, because they had enough belief that their offense could score at will against Minnesota (which was true). Also, their run D held up very well. They had complete domination of both lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 I doubt Westbrook gets anywhere near 1600. I just don't see it. I like him, but I just think McNabb will be called on more as he has that mobility at QB. It's a great intangible. I tell you what. I'd love to see McNabb and Vick go head to head this year. Damn straight I'd stay up late to see that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by Potato Sack I doubt Westbrook gets anywhere near 1600. I just don't see it. I like him, but I just think McNabb will be called on more as he has that mobility at QB. It's a great intangible. I tell you what. I'd love to see McNabb and Vick go head to head this year. Damn straight I'd stay up late to see that one. I'm not talking about rushing yards, but receiving as well. Lining him up in the slot is when he's most dangerous. He had over 150 total yards game one, and 138 last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz They played a certain defensive game against the Vikings, which was predicated on not giving up big plays, because they had enough belief that their offense could score at will against Minnesota (which was true). Also, their run D held up very well. They had complete domination of both lines. Umm, I wouldn't say the Eagles exactly scored at will. It was a rather low scoring game for the most part, and if you take away the dropped-pass-TD, it is a 17-16 victory for the Eagles. The Eagles defense causes turnovers, or at least they did against the vikings, but I didn't really see them stopping big plays, until the Vikings were in the red zone, but that was also a combination of Vikings penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz The Eagles D is susceptible, but they won't typcially give up as many yards as they did to the Vikings. I wouldn't bet on that.... they are following a trend from last season, in preseason & the first 2 games the D has been bent to their limits, and were lucky last night a couple times that the Vikes did score more a lot more. The Redskins D is playing pretty well too now, but I'm not sure many defenses will stop the Eagles offense this year. outside of the non catch TD, the Vikes held TO in check most of the night.... and the Vikes Defense is their weak spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz I'm not talking about rushing yards, but receiving as well. Lining him up in the slot is when he's most dangerous. He had over 150 total yards game one, and 138 last week. Question: do the Vikings have LBs that can cover worth a damn though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 I really haven't noticed the type of hands Westbrook has. My head's too busy spinning wondering what the opposing defense is going to do to keep McNabb contained. DAmn....he's evil. E-V-I-L!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 The only thing I will give TO, is that nine times out of ten, that same play he WILL make the catch. I mean he was wide open, brutalized the CB, and McNabb threw a great ball to him. Yes he missed it, but I wouldn't count on him missing anymore wide open passes like that for a TD anymore this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by NoCalMike Umm, I wouldn't say the Eagles exactly scored at will. It was a rather low scoring game for the most part, and if you take away the dropped-pass-TD, it is a 17-16 victory for the Eagles. The Eagles defense causes turnovers, or at least they did against the vikings, but I didn't really see them stopping big plays, until the Vikings were in the red zone, but that was also a combination of Vikings penalties. Punting once to me is the equivalent of scoring at will. They would have scored on the drive that TO had his touchdown anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by NoCalMike The only thing I will give TO, is that nine times out of ten, that same play he WILL make the catch. I mean he was wide open, brutalized the CB, and McNabb threw a great ball to him. Yes he missed it, but I wouldn't count on him missing anymore wide open passes like that for a TD anymore this season. And the corner was hanging on his leg, but that's besides the point. Bubba, it's not about getting TO the ball. To me, the Eagles have so many options on offense that it'll be hard to stop all of them. The most improved from last year, to me, seems to be the play of the TEs. LJ Smith and Westbrook are like having another WR out there (which is sometimes needed because who knows whether or not Pinkston will show up?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by NoCalMike Question: do the Vikings have LBs that can cover worth a damn though? Chris Claiborne, Dontarrious Thomas, and EJ Henderson aren't weak linebackers. I wouldn't say they rivaled Arrington/Washington/Barrow, but they can play the game a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz Punting once to me is the equivalent of scoring at will. Hardly, they had a turnover, and the Vikes controlled the clock. scoring at will means just that,.... every drive ends in points. they haven't been truly tested yet. They haven't played against a good defense, nor have they played against a mistake free offense yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 Hardly, they had a turnover, and the Vikes controlled the clock. scoring at will means just that,.... every drive ends in points. they haven't been truly tested yet. They haven't played against a good defense, nor have they played against a mistake free offense yet. The Vikings controlling the clock is meaningless in turns of the production of the Eagles offense. Your second statement makes little sense. Isn't that essentially what Philadelphia did? And there aren't going to be many, if any, "mistake free" offenses in the league. I'd wager that Minnesota's O is going to be as good as it gets this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz And the corner was hanging on his leg, but that's besides the point. Bubba, it's not about getting TO the ball. To me, the Eagles have so many options on offense that it'll be hard to stop all of them. The most improved from last year, to me, seems to be the play of the TEs. LJ Smith and Westbrook are like having another WR out there (which is sometimes needed because who knows whether or not Pinkston will show up?). uh no, didn't touch him until TO touched the ball, but I digress. again the eagles haven't been tested yet, and outside of McNabb To, and westbrook, the other options are average. one of the 3 goes down or goes into a slump (McNabb usually does) then the eagles are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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