hokie4redskins Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Other than that lame first down dance he does, (Quit it already, you don't look cool, you look like a toolbox.) I found myself smiling and cheering for the guy unlike last year when I cringed at his crucial drops or stupid penalties that killed or stalled drives making me grit my teeth, pull my hair, and spew expletives at the TV. He had a couple clutch catches extending our drives and TOP. He got plenty of separation from coverage. He could just be reaping the benefits from the double teams Coles faced, or he could just be one of those guys who only flourishes in a contract year, (This is the last year of his contract, right?) but the optimist in me says he's a product of Gibbs who will squeeze all that potential and turn it into gold. Just a thought. Helluva game yesterday. 19-0 anybody? HA! A man can dream. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I thought he played hard but if he can ever catch every pass that is catchable, he good have a breakout year. 50/50! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I would have been more impressed with him had he held on to the two passes he dropped. The first drop wasn't that bad considering that he looked like he was going to lose yardage on the play. The second one was unforgiveable though. The ball was perfectly thrown where only he could get it and it would have kept our drive alive and put us in decent field position. His recognition and leaping catch on the Brunell scramble was a thing of beauty though. Let's hope he finds a way to make the 50/50 moniker a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Don't let CSkin see this thread. I guess you, awash in the glow of the overall team performance, either neglected to notice or ignored Gardner's drop on the WR screen to open and on the trapped ball that he should have caught for a first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDane Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Rod had two drops. One was entirely inexcusable, and the other was inexcusable. However, he seemed to be getting separation and finding the right holes in the defense. He needs to FOCUS MORE on the team game and quit trying to put together his own personal highlight reel and celebratory nonsense. If he can focus - and we have the right coaches to help him do this - then he could have a better season than 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie4redskins Posted September 13, 2004 Author Share Posted September 13, 2004 Yeah, he had a couple flashes from the past, but overall he did well. Blocked well too, which is overlooked with receivers sometimes. I think he caught that pass though and had we challenged the call, it might've been overturned 'cuz from the replay, it did look as if he managed to haul it in at the last possible second. But yeah, it shouldn't have even come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainSkinsFan Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Gardner is the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by hokie4redskins Yeah, he had a couple flashes from the past, but overall he did well. Blocked well too, which is overlooked with receivers sometimes. I think he caught that pass though and had we challenged the call, it might've been overturned 'cuz from the replay, it did look as if he managed to haul it in at the last possible second. But yeah, it shouldn't have even come to that. Looks like he bobbled the ball but managed to snatch it before it hit the ground. Unfortunately the replay was inconclusive and I'm sure that had we challened, the play would have stood as called on the field. There's absolutely no excuse for dropping that ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 With his size and ability, he could be great. Problem #1 is his lack of concentration, which leads to the drops. Problem #2 is that he's not willing to do the little things. He could actually learn one thing from Keyshawn and that is blocking. (Did I really say that? :doh: ) Problem #3 is that stupid first down dance he does. Does he think we're idiots that we don't know what is and isn't a first down? He needs a guy like Art Monk to sit him down and get his head straight. He has the physical tools to be the 2nd coming of Art. He just needs to get his head out of his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanathos19 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by afparent I thought he played hard but if he can ever catch every pass that is catchable, he good have a breakout year. 50/50! I Agree...it almost came back to bite us in the ass yesterday, but his drops are going to be his downfall. He has a history of dropping the ball, and for all the big plays he makes, his drops continue to hanut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 His recognition and leaping catch on the Brunell scramble was a thing of beauty though. Let's hope he finds a way to make the 50/50 moniker a thing of the past. Let's not forget it was Bruce Smith who gave him that nickname. Rod's dance might be annoying, but he showed a ton of class by not responding to Bruce. Smith was light in the ass and useless by the time he fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally got that meaningless sack record. That should have been Smith's moniker. "Light In The Ass and Useless".... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nace14 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 rod is going to have a great year for one reason, the same reason portis is....BUGEL. we can't deny his athletic ability and size. when you combine that with 5 seconds to throw the ball, which being at the game it felt like brunel had, he is going to get open and make plays. cb's will not be able to hang with him for that long, and once brunell starts moving around, i'm sure we can all expect to watch lc take off deep behind rod pulling back the safties and to watch rod come back hard to brunel trying to find the 7-15 yard windows to pick up first downs. the better the protection, the better rod's performance. you could even see that tendency yesterday. when brunel droped back and threw off his fifth or seventh step the ball was going to coles, but as soon as he hit that final step and saw coles covered he was looking for rod to find a window. totally different from the spurrier plan, and just the way it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 so what, he had 2 drops, most big receivers will have drops, they make up for it with good receptions, and Gardner did that. Now I dont wanna make comparisons, but many of you were comparing Gardner to Monk, isnt that what Monk was like, wouldnt get the big play as often, but got the first downs and fought for yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Rod Gardner is a big body and should be great on the 12 yard hitch pattersn that Gibbs likes to run. He also should be a great blocker when crashing down on a DE for the pitch out. But I don't necessarily expect big #s from him by the end of the year in terms of yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Speaking of blocking, Gardner continues to disappoint me in that department. Watch the long run Portis ripped again and focus on Gardner. It was a miracle the refs didn't throw the flag on that one. Gardner had his arms outside of the defender and held on to him just enough to slow the DB down in his pursuit of Portis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 The people complaining about the drops are a usually out of touch with reality. If GArdner caught every catchable ball he'd be a hall of fame reciever. To expect that from him is ridiculous. He had one bad year, and now everyone notives only the drops. Owens drops more, and I've seen at least one site that keeps track of such things say that coles had more drops. People just don't get it. After that first drop, which was pretty bad he only had that other bad throw dropped, and that really is on brunell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I'm sorry... I just don't see what you guys see. That first drop was purely "Blockhead" not mentally focused on the football game. Why isn't he concentrating on the game on that 1st play.... instead of allowing the ball to hit him in the hands, then stomach, then ground. :doh: The second play was a trap... it was obvious. I don't want a Redskin player jumping around asking for a challenge when it was clear he didn't catch it. That's bushleague. Sure... the Brunell scramble converted a third down.... but he's supposed to get open in the event of a broken play. I completely unimpressed with his concentration level and lack of urgency in the running game. I'm going to go back and review the tape and I'm confident I'll find instances where Gardner "loafed" on blocking assignments. I want him traded... he's not a Redskin... his ego and Rap career more important than his football responsibilities. That "Michael Irvin/Michael Westbrook" 1st down indication.... :doh: Art Monk he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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