donnyg Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Overview There's no questioning Washington head coach Joe Gibbs' resume, as he has led the Redskins to three Super Bowl titles in four visits. However, he hasn't coached a regular-season game since 1992. Can the most successful coach in Redskins' history bring football glory back to the Washington area? Tampa Bay will be without some familiar faces on defense, as DT Warren Sapp is now a Raider and SS John Lynch is a Bronco. Replacing their leadership on the field as well in the locker room could prove difficult. Tampa Bay's ability to handle their departures is critical to fielding yet another strong defense in 2004. Gibbs isn't the only one Redskins' fans have high expectations for this year. Washington traded shutdown corner Champ Bailey to Denver to acquire RB Clinton Portis. If Portis struggles early, he's almost certain to hear it from the crowd in his first home game as a Redskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnmenon1 Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Nope, its not like bailey was NEVER burned (toomer, anyone?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 No, usually running backs don't get booed unless they fumble or drop passes. You usually blame the linemen if he doesn't pick up yards. Plus he is too likeable! As far as the Bailey connection, yes, bailey was a good player but he was not revered here like Darrell Green. Offense will not get booed because of Bailey, now if the D gets burnt, they you might hear the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.Smitty Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I totally disagree with that. Even if he does struggle at the start, I don't believe that Gibbs will keep doing the same things. He will find runs that CP will be able to do well in. I think we'll see a lot of those stretch running plays that Portis used to run in Denver and I think he will go over 100 yards on sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funNgun4eva Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 the thing ive noticed about portis (from nfl films on espn) is that he can be shut down, but he can totally break off a 40+ yd run anytime. so i dont think u can ever count him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Overview Redskins will lean on running game http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/scouting?gameId=240912028 There's no questioning Washington head coach Joe Gibbs' resume, as he has led the Redskins to three Super Bowl titles in four visits. However, he hasn't coached a regular-season game since 1992. Can the most successful coach in Redskins' history bring football glory back to the Washington area? Tampa Bay will be without some familiar faces on defense, as DT Warren Sapp is now a Raider and SS John Lynch is a Bronco. Replacing their leadership on the field as well in the locker room could prove difficult. Tampa Bay's ability to handle their departures is critical to fielding yet another strong defense in 2004. Gibbs isn't the only one Redskins' fans have high expectations for this year. Washington traded shutdown corner Champ Bailey to Denver to acquire RB Clinton Portis. If Portis struggles early, he's almost certain to hear it from the crowd in his first home game as a Redskin. When the Buccaneers have the ball Rushing: Alstott RB Michael Pittman will miss the first three games serving a league suspension and RB Charlie Garner will get the majority of the carries in his absence. However, FB Mike Alstott should get his fair share of touches as well and should play a big role in this game. OLBs LaVar Arrington and Marcus Washington have the speed to prevent Garner from consistently turning the corner, so Tampa Bay will need to attack the Redskins' run defense between the tackles. Alstott is a far more powerful runner than Garner and has the size to wear down Washington's front four over the course of the game. In addition, OC John Wade should have success reaching MLB Mike Barrow, who has been slowed by knee injuries and isn't shedding blocks as quickly. Tampa Bay can help slow Arrington and Washington when it does run outside by using some misdirection, draws and screen. If Arrington and Washington don't maintain their backside responsibilities or get caught flying upfield, the result could be some long gains on the ground. Garner has excellent vision and can cut back if he sees the Redskins' linebackers overpursuing the play. At the very least the talented linebackers will have to read the play a second longer before reacting. Passing: New Washington defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been impressed with LDE Renaldo Wynn's play during the offseason and likes Wynn's ability to drop back into coverage. Williams will use Wynn's versatility to his advantage by running some zone blitzes that allow Arrington and Wynn to come off the edge. Johnson QB Brad Johnson must recognize when Williams brings additional pressure and adjust quickly. The Buccaneers' offensive line has undergone some radical changes during the offseason and it doesn't help that injuries have prevented it from playing together during the preseason. A few breakdowns in the protection can be expected with so many new starters adjusting to one another. Unlike Mark Brunell, Johnson has never been a mobile quarterback. He must get rid of the ball when either Arrington or Washington coming off the edge or he will take some big hits. However, Johnson cannot rush his decisions either. If he doesn't a defensive lineman dropping back, he could throw right into the coverage. Redskins FS Sean Taylor has all of the physical tools to develop into a superstar, but he is still a rookie and the Buccaneers will test him when he is in the game. If Taylor bites on play-action or just gets caught out of position, Tampa Bay will take some chances downfield. WR Joey Galloway still has the speed to get behind CB Shawn Springs and the inconsistent but dangerous TE Rickey Dudley is always a threat to work the seam. When the Redskins have the ball Rushing: The loss of ROT Jon Jansen, who is one if not the best run blocker in the league, to a season-ending Achilles injury during the preseason is significant. However, Washington should still have success moving the ball on the ground. The Redskins will regularly use motion and run counters creating better blocking angles. Tampa Bay's linebackers explode of the ball and they are relentless in pursuit, but those strengths could become weaknesses in this game. If the linebackers react to the original motion of the counter and take a false step, Washington's H-backs and tight ends will have success reaching their blocks at the second level. The problem is the Buccaneers can't read and react either because they don't have the size in the front seven hold up at the point of attack. Although FS Jermaine Phillips and SS Dwight Smith will need to help out in run support, they must play with discipline. They cannot get caught out of biting on play-action and, more importantly, they must take excellent pursuit angles to Portis. If they get caught out of position or misjudge Portis' speed, Portis is more-than-capable of breaking some long touchdown runs. Portis will have his chances to showcase his talents on the outside, but the Redskins should show a steady commitment to running the ball inside. Tampa Bay lacks great depth at defensive tackle. Consistently pounding the ball between the tackles will help wear down the interior pass rush and keep it on its heels late in the game. Passing: Brunell isn't nearly as mobile as he was earlier in his career, and he needs more time in the pocket to be effective. With that in mind the matchup between LOT Chris Samuels and RDE Simeon Rice will be paramount to Brunell's success. Rice is one of the best pass rushers in the league and Samuels is an excellent pass blocker, so this should be an absolute battle. Samuels Although Samuels is nursing an ankle sprain, he is expected to play in this game and the injury shouldn't hinder him. If he can keep Rice out of the backfield with little to no help from his backs or tight ends, the Buccaneers will be forced to play more man coverage and blitz more often than they would like. Cover-2 defenses are vulnerable to tight ends who have the burst to get behind the linebackers and the size to cause matchup problems for the defensive backs. While Chris Cooley won't start, he fits that mold and could play a big role in the passing game. Cooley should have success getting open off play-action with the commitment to the running game setting up play-action. He'll also benefit from speedy WR Laveranues Coles drawing some safety attention to the outside, which will open up the middle. Scout's Edge Johnson is a veteran quarterback who will help keep Tampa Bay in this game. He will overcome the Buccaneers' lack of a consistent running game and the Redskins' pass rush by consistently moving the ball with a conservative passing attack. Johnson won't panic if Tampa Bay falls behind on the road either, but it won't be enough in the end. Washington will make enough big plays to build a lead heading into the fourth quarter. Its running game will wear down the Buccaneers' front seven over the course of the game, allowing the Redskins to control the clock and protect that late lead. In the end, Gibbs and Portis will deliver Redskins fans a home opener win in what should be a very close game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyRules Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Booing scrubs during preseason is one thing; booing your team during the regular season should never be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yank Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 If anyone on this board dares to boo on Sunday I'll personally meet them in the parking lot ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 the magical thing about Portis, is that out of 20 carries, it only takes him one, to show why he is great. Unlike a lot of RBs that need three quarters to wear down a Defense. Everytime Portis touches the ball, he has the ability to take it to the house. I FULLY EXPECT there to be stops at the line of scrimmage, however the following rush, will result in a 20yd gain. That is what you get with Portis. Mix in Betts & Rock for shord yardage situations, and you have a winning combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 People keep forgetting that Gibbs PASSING attack regularly produced 1,000 yard receivers and pro bowl players in Charlie Brown, Art Monk, Ricky Sanders and Gary Clark. The Redskins will not be a one dimensional running team as is portrayed. Brunell is hardly a liability at qb. I think he goes on to have close to a pro bowl season in this offense. With good protection, which he didn't have in Jacksonville, Brunell is still a top 10 qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Bulldog, I think it is great the Skins are being portrayed as being one dimensional now. Just wait till Gibbs really pulls out the passing game and the bombs are flying everywhere. In 1991 Rypien had 13 pass completions of over 47 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 and people forget that Jay Schroeder threw for 4,109 yards in 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I think that Portis will do good tomorrow, I don't think that he will do overly great (stats wise), not a poor game either, but I don't think that he will be boo'd. The only players that I can see getting boo'd would be Gardner and Burnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdskn4eva Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I have to post this. Why does EVERYONE say bailey is overrated because he got burned ONCE that I can remember? Bailey is far and away the best corner in the league. The greated corners ever have been burned. Its inevitable!!! But does that mean that they are bad corners cause they get burned every once in while? No. I know he has said some bad things about the skins organization, but that says something about his character. not his skills as a corner.As of right now, there isnt a more complete corner in the leauge. So please stop with this "bailey is overrated" stuff please!! Cause hes not! If you want to talk about him, talk about his character. I guess that can be questioned, but not the mans skills. Hes great! I'm glad he was with us, I happier we got Portis tho, but bailey is the man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Originally posted by rdskn4eva I have to post this. Why does EVERYONE say bailey is overrated because he got burned ONCE that I can remember? Bailey is far and away the best corner in the league. The greated corners ever have been burned. Its inevitable!!! But does that mean that they are bad corners cause they get burned every once in while? No. I know he has said some bad things about the skins organization, but that says something about his character. not his skills as a corner.As of right now, there isnt a more complete corner in the leauge. So please stop with this "bailey is overrated" stuff please!! Cause hes not! If you want to talk about him, talk about his character. I guess that can be questioned, but not the mans skills. Hes great! I'm glad he was with us, I happier we got Portis tho, but bailey is the man! I liked Bailey. I was glad we drafted him and was sorry the relationship soured and he wouldn't re-sign. However, I loved my first wife, but when we got divorced she became a "b@tch". Same with Bailey - he is no longer a Skin, so he is an "over-rated bum". And that's the it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 In addition, OC John Wade should have success reaching MLB Mike Barrow, who has been slowed by knee injuries and isn't shedding blocks as quickly. Well, how can they say Barrow isn't shedding blocks as quickly when he hasn't been playing or even practicing? Further, he probably won't play in this game, Pierce will. Shoddy reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I missed the memo where John Wade suddenly became Mike Webster or Kevin Mawae overnight :laugh: :laugh: I doubt the Tampa offensive line dominates any of its matchups. The Redskins defense under Williams has stressed speed and the Bucs to me are an offense that largely lacks speed and quickness. Outside of Joey Galloway, the Bucs really don't scare you on offense. What you want to do is prevent their DEFENSE from creating turnovers that give the Bucs and Gruden good field position. That was how this offense feasted in 2002 when the Bucs went to and won the Super Bowl. Garner, Brown, Alstott. These guys are no longer the players they were. And I think we will see that Sunday. If the Redskins play keep away and don't turn the ball over for cheap points, I think we win this one 21-17. That final score will be closer I think than the final stats of the game would indicate. But I expect some growing pains from the Skins offense in the red zone in the opener and we likely won't net all the points we coud have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbones Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Originally posted by jrfriedm I think that Portis will do good tomorrow, Wait, our game got moved also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Originally posted by The Rook I liked Bailey. I was glad we drafted him and was sorry the relationship soured and he wouldn't re-sign. However, I loved my first wife, but when we got divorced she became a "b@tch". Same with Bailey - he is no longer a Skin, so he is an "over-rated bum". And that's the it is. Tell that nooblet how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSurina Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 That's the thng about the Gibbs, he did the run in the beginning of the game to set up the passing game, then lit up the scoreboard with the pass, then return to the run to kill the last quarter and a half!! Hardly one dimensional! I thought of something when I heard Madden talk about the Patriots coaching, he said they always do the unexpected. Just when you think you know what they are going to do, they do something you didn't expect. With Gibbs, you generally knew what they were going to do, and the other team couldn't stop it. That's a real champion team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Portis Struggling, I don't see it happening. My prediction for Portis vs Tampa- 115yds, 2TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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