inmate running the asylum Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Ricks would be a good pickup for the Redskins at TE. He is a very good receiver who has the speed to stretch defenses down the middle of the field. Much better TE than Robert Royal. As I recall Bobby Beathard originally drafted Ricks when Beathard was the GM for the Chargers. I believe Beathard traded his #1 draft pick to obtain a 2nd round draft pick to draft Ricks, who was a 6-5 speedy WR at the time. Ricks was a bust as a WR, but later put on weight to play TE, and with his WR speed did fairly well as a pass catching TE. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12648 Jets | Ricks Released - from www.KFFL.com Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:20:04 -0700 The New York Jets have announced the release of TE Mikhael Ricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Oh ho, oh ho, oh HAHAHAHA!! :laugh: Dude, that's what Cooley is for. In other words: Forget about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 Originally posted by Renegade7 Oh ho, oh ho, oh HAHAHAHA!! :laugh: Dude, that's what Cooley is for. In other words: Forget about it! Wrong. Do I have to teach you everything. :laugh: Cooley is an H-back. Ricks is a TIGHT END who plays on the line of scrimmage. Big difference. Pay attention in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRskinsaholic26 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 NO WAY the skins need Ricks i was watching the jets last 2 preseason games and he dropped a couple balls that where right dead smack between the numbers coaches in the league won't put up with that. That why hes was released from Detroit and Jets because he can't catch the ball. Cooley will prove to be a great pick for the skins this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 Originally posted by BRskinsaholic26 NO WAY the skins need Ricks i was watching the jets last 2 preseason games and he dropped a couple balls that where right dead smack between the numbers coaches in the league won't put up with that. That why hes was released from Detroit and Jets because he can't catch the ball. Cooley will prove to be a great pick for the skins this year. I dont know if Ricks dropped any balls or not, but he had 5 receptions Thursday night against the Eagles and only played part of the game. When was the last time a Redskins TE played half a game and had 5 receptions in a game ? Like 30 years ago? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum Wrong. Do I have to teach you everything. :laugh: Cooley is an H-back. Ricks is a TIGHT END who plays on the line of scrimmage. Big difference. Pay attention in the future. About, but think about it. Cooley was drafted as a TE, and if need be, Gibbs will line him up as a reciever. Think about it. Who many recievers do you need on in a running offense when you already have Coles and a mad WR core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 Originally posted by Renegade7 About, but think about it. Cooley was drafted as a TE, and if need be, Gibbs will line him up as a reciever. Think about it. Who many recievers do you need on in a running offense when you already have Coles and a mad WR core? Yeah right. So we will keep the lumbering, injury prone Robert Royal instead, who with his 4.97 forty speed needs to be timed with an hourglass. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum Yeah right. So we will keep the lumbering, injury prone Robert Royal instead, who with his 4.97 forty speed needs to be timed with an hourglass. :laugh: Ah, coach him up. :laugh: Seriously, Rasby clocking. If need be, put in Kozlaski(spelling, SO SUE ME!), sellers or somebody. Ya, if we need more TEs who can block, I wouldn't go after a reciever TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 We're deep at the position. At this stage it's too late to pick up the offense for the start of the season. The only areas I could forsee us picking up someone who is a last cut is at rb or dline, and I don't see to much chance of that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 Originally posted by thinker We're deep at the position. At this stage it's too late to pick up the offense for the start of the season. The only areas I could forsee us picking up someone who is a last cut is at rb or dline, and I don't see to much chance of that either. Maybe. But teams do it all the time. You watch next week and see how many players get claimed off waivers from one team to another. Its not that rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 pass? how often does Gibbs teams PASS to a te? exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Ricks is not a good blocker and isn't going to fit in to the Redskins system. He would have to play H-Back to survive and with the investment made in Cooley I don't see that move happening. What the Skins are looking for is a veteran DE that can be a spot pass rusher off the bench, a backup tackle that is better than Marcus Spriggs (who I think will be cut), or perhaps another running back to join Portis and Betts on the opening day roster. TE and H-Back are not in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog Ricks is not a good blocker and isn't going to fit in to the Redskins system. He would have to play H-Back to survive and with the investment made in Cooley I don't see that move happening. TE and H-Back are not in the mix. If Ricks was not a good blocker and doesn't fit, then how come the Skins were trying to sign Mikhael Ricks just BEFORE they signed Fred Baxter???? :doh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I watched Ricks in Detroit some. He is not a good blocker. In answer to your question, perhaps they were looking at him as potential competition at H-Back when Cooley was progressing slowly the first week of camp and Sellers was out with an injured ankle. In any case, Ricks' asset is his speed at 6'5. His is a finesse game, not a trenches game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I'll go against the grain here and say that Ricks would be an interesting prospective pickup. He had some decent games in Detroit. And I think you could probably teach a TE with good hands to block, but not teach a TE with good blocking to catch....just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog I watched Ricks in Detroit some. He is not a good blocker. In answer to your question, perhaps they were looking at him as potential competition at H-Back when Cooley was progressing slowly the first week of camp and Sellers was out with an injured ankle. In any case, Ricks' asset is his speed at 6'5. His is a finesse game, not a trenches game. I agree with your assessment of Rick's abilities, except that when you are trying to upgrade your overall roster, I see Ricks as far more of an asset then the slow, questionable blocker, injury prone Robert Royal who does nothing particularly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum I agree with your assessment of Rick's abilities, except that when you are trying to upgrade your overall roster, I see Ricks as far more of an asset then the slow, questionable blocker, injury prone Robert Royal who does nothing particularly well. Fine. Cut Royal, sign your guy, see if it works. If it does, everyone's happy(except Robert). If it doesn't, we still have Cooley. NOW I UNDERSTAND! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I think Royal is vulnerable. If Baxter were healthy Royal would probably be an easier cut. As it is we need players that know the system heading into the opener. Grabbing a guy this late means he is pretty much useless in this system for several weeks. If Rasby was to go down then we would have to start a guy that doesn't know the plays. I doubt Gibbs will see that as an upgrade. Long-term I agree that the Skins don't have the next generation of talent at TE (not H-Back where Cooley appears to be the guy). We are going to have to hope Baxter gets healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog I think Royal is vulnerable. If Baxter were healthy Royal would probably be an easier cut. As it is we need players that know the system heading into the opener. Grabbing a guy this late means he is pretty much useless in this system for several weeks. If Rasby was to go down then we would have to start a guy that doesn't know the plays. I doubt Gibbs will see that as an upgrade. Long-term I agree that the Skins don't have the next generation of talent at TE (not H-Back where Cooley appears to be the guy). We are going to have to hope Baxter gets healthy. Baxter has been out now about 3 weeks with his injury, which reportedly wasn't going to keep him out any more then this. It wouldn't surprise me assuming Baxter is healed, if Baxter makes the team and Royal is cut. Either way, even if Baxter is cut, I think Baxter will be lurking in the shadows and the team may resign him a few games further down the regular season road. Royal is definitely not the long term answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 As much as I wanted us to pick him up after the Lions dumped him, I have to say pass. I believe that the TE's on this team are going to be used more to block than to catch passes, especially with Jansen out for the year and Samuels guarding Brunell's blindside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Hilarious that they waived him. ESPN Radio commentator Brandon Tierney (in New York), an outspoken die hard Jets fan was doing backflips when they brought him in. Saying how it was a "genius" move by the front office and that it was going to be one of the steals of free agency. How he will be an integral part of Hackett's O. Blah, blah, blah. Very tempting to call in and see what he has to say now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 look, teams have been thinking this about Ricks for years. Kansas City thought he was going to be the answer. So did San Diego. So did Detroit. Now the Jets :laugh: when are people going to realize he is a great athlete that is just not an NFL football player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog look, teams have been thinking this about Ricks for years. Kansas City thought he was going to be the answer. So did San Diego. So did Detroit. Now the Jets :laugh: when are people going to realize he is a great athlete that is just not an NFL football player? Ahh Bulldog, you are being a little too harsh on a player who was a 6-5 WR and had to convert in the NFL to the TE position. Ricks has better TE receiving stats then most TE's. What the frig has Robert Royal shown in 3 years? :laugh: I'm starting to tire of defending Mikhael Ricks, who the Skins FO said they were interested in before the signing of Fred Baxter. I guess I better look for another Ogun article to post for ParkCitySkins to read. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Oh gee thanks. Look forward to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Montana Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Having the unfortunate experience of being bombarded with Jets telecasts last season, they could use an upgrade at TE. Anthony Becht is like Steven Alexander on a bad day. So if they let Ricks go, you've got to wonder about this guy. But, if we cut Royal loose I might take a flier on him. And Brandon Tierney is the Bill Maas of ESPN radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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