Blondie Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Guess the load will be on Betts (?)! Since he only played one series last week.....wonder if he will get more tonight? And we will see what Sultan can do against first team defenders. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 One of them is most likely cut and Betts has to prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 seems like Rock is on the way out. I dunno, I guess Betts has more potential, but I like to keep perenially healthy players more. Wonder why they're keeping Simon out. I hope they dont keep Portis in long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter's Better Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Could a trade be in the works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Betts is the #2 ... this may hurt Simon more than anyone. he misses a chance to step up one more time to show the coaches what he can do, and if he is injured bad enough to miss the past two games , it maybe a lingering problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Actually, expect Morton to be out there more than you'd expect. He may be playing for a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Heck I'd bubble wrap portis and give Sultan mac and morton some work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Gibbs hasn't featured Morton at all, and I don't expect him to in the preseason. I have this sneaking suspicision that Morton is going to get alot of the 3rd down and long work as well as most of the "joe washington" offensive package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Go Sultan! It's your night to shine! Hope to see him in the first half after Betts is through. It's either a very good or very bad sign that they're sitting Rock and Simon. I hope they're not just letting Sultan play because he's considered expendable. I really can't see Gibbs and Co. wasting valuable preseason PT on a kid that they have zero interest in keeping. I've been wrong plenty of times before though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Sultan was really trying to push for a roster spot yesterday by saying he is the least paid.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Frankly I don't recall seeing one really good running play this preseason that was not mostly just good blocking. If you are wondering what I'm talking about look at the St. Louis film how Stephen Jackson just breaks tackles and moves the pile against us. I haven't seen anything like that by one of our runners yet. Everybody seems to go down on the first hit. I don't know if we have a true power back on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrunkin Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I think Sultan always plays well...just my opinion but last year in the preseason he played well too... I think this guy may be worth keeping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Originally posted by Cskin Gibbs hasn't featured Morton at all, and I don't expect him to in the preseason. I have this sneaking suspicision that Morton is going to get alot of the 3rd down and long work as well as most of the "joe washington" offensive package. Normally I'd agree with you and what you say may still be possible. But, an intense coaching staff like ours, may not fully appreciate a laid back California boy like Morton. And, if they think he hasn't shown himself above some others, they may need to see something more from him before passing along the Joe Washington role to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pll Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I'm also wondering if they are shopping Betts. Regarding the upcoming roster cuts, Gibbs was saying on WTEM that they were really looking for guys that were on the field (both practice and in games). Betts unfortunately has not met that requirement, but Rock and Simon have. Its a tough choice either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Art, you may be right, but at this point the evidence doesn't neccearily point to morton's exclusion. We saw a lot of ohalete before he was cut. Gibbs seems to take the guys who have assured themselves of thier positions off the field rather quickly. Morton has been non-existant. To me, that points more towards a heavy role in the offense than likely cut. However, If there's an early drive where morton gets a significant number of carries, then it beomes a lot more difficult to call, as morton could be on his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Originally posted by NavyDave Heck I'd bubble wrap portis and give Sultan mac and morton some work DING!! Sultan needs to get some work with the first unit tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuels Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I can't believe alot of people are even debating this competion. Byner is really high on Betts and has said Betts can be a great back. You've heard Gibbs rave about Betts pass catching. You've watched Betts miss all the preseason then when he's healthy immediately become the #2 Rb he is a roster lock. Then we've seen Rock playing the #2 while he was out then #3 when he played last week. Gibbs has said 1 game does'nt change his mind. I think Rock is a lock has well. Simon had 1 good game catching the ball but Morton can do those same things and he is a lock. Hopefully Sultan can be put on the PS squad again this year. Simon is a goner he has'nt played the last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Interesting how so many feel there is a Joe Washington role for the Skins. When we had Riggo for 1st and 2nd downs the JW role was needed to come out the backfield, catch passes and run draws, etc. Portis can do it all. Yes he needs to rest on some snaps but 3rd down is what separates winners and losers and I dont see Portis coming out on 3rd downs. He's clearly faster and quicker than Morton or Betts and he can catch. Oh yeah, and he can take it to the house with the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 While I don't necessarily see a driving need for a Joe Washington type player I still see Gibbs giving a lot of that work to Morton. I ask you, do you want a guy in there trying to make 3rd and 8 who has been in the game for the last half dozen plays, carrying the rock and blocking much larger d-line guys, or a guy who is largely fresh? I am not saying that Morton is more talented than Portis at this, just that the drop off is not so much to warrent always leaving Portis in the game. And I am not so sure that Portis is as fast as Morton is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsbadd Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Morton stays. Morton plays hard and does everything asked of him. Now this could play out several ways. Maybe Rock and Simon are sitting because a trade is in the works fo Sultan or Betts, or maybe the staff needs to see more of Sultan before they decide to let Simon go and let Rock stay. Pick whatever combination you want, but I really feel that Morton is a lock to make the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Greg Williams was even quoted in a recent article saying that there is a lot to the process of these decisions - including practice and attitude about preparation throughout the entire off-season. - Something that none of us are able to witness. The fact that Rock is sitting is probably just because he is hurt. But I also think that the coaching staff has already made a decision or two. Here is my final BOLD prediction on the RB's: The locks at RB are: Portis Morton Betts The final spot is between Simon, Sultan and someone not currently on the roster. - Rock and a WR and/or O-lineman will be shipped to Arizona for a conditional draft pick. ....Why? Because as much as we all love Rock, and the coaching staff admires his work ethic and dedication, he's a fullback - and we don't use a fullback in this system. Arizona just put James Hodgins (their starting FB) on IR, they're thin on WR's and thin on the O-line and need depth at RB. It is entirely possible we could include Betts in that package for a higher pick and keep Simon or bring in a Stacey Mack type. - just a hunch. P.S. - I personally would love to see Betts and Rock both make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I have no idea what the coaching staff has in mind for Chad Morton but tossing KR like that from the squad when Gibbs is such a special teams obsesser would be a mistake, IMO. The guy had minimal ST prep with Spurrier, but w/ the Jets he was VERY impressive. (That's why we brought him in!) He will SO benefit from working for Joe Gibbs' special teams. I hope we hold him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I would be totally shocked if anything happened to Morton. I would think that like Coles, Gardner, Portis, Lavar and Daniels, we're not seeing much of him in pre-season because he has nothing to prove to the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted September 3, 2004 Author Share Posted September 3, 2004 Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Rock is NOT sitting out this game just because. He is injured. Simon sat out last week because he was injured. Still is. Betts will play tonight more than last week. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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