Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 After seeing 3 preseason games so far and a lot of our players in action have your expectations changed and what are they now? Mine have changed for the better. I really think this will be an 11-5 playoff team. Prior to camp I was thinking 8-8 at best mainly because of defensive weakness Now after seeing guys like Taylor and Washington and Griffin I ge the chills thinking of how well this D will be. And I think even without Jansen our offense will be just fine this year and able to put up enough points to get wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 10-6....be a wildcard team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 At least 10-6 maybe better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Honestly, I think we're going to struggle tremendously early on. If we can sneak out a couple of early wins and gain some early momentum given how well Gibbs usually gets his teams to play late, we might be trouble for the league. In all though, I suspect we're going to lose some games in ways that will cause us concern early on. There will be uncertainty and hesitation from learning new systems that teams will exploit against us and it will take several weeks before we begin to resemble the team we might become. That we have a relatively easy schedule on paper is beneficial. That we could run into a large number of young QBs is great for us. These factors coupled with early season emotion might allow us for a greater season than I anticipate now. I just don't expect it to happen despite hoping it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 10-6 and maybe depending how we look from the start 12-4 or 13-3 :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Art here is what I am thinking I really think this team can and will start off at least 3-0 if not 4-0. I think Tampa is not as good as people think. I especially think we can score on their D. The Giants will have Eli in and as good as he looks he will still be a rookie QB. That D is not in great shape and we should win this game We have more talent then the Cowboys and finally have a coach that understands this rivalry. MNF, we'll be 2-0, the place will be rocking. I can't see us losing this game. Cleveland. This is a dangerous team with guys on their O such as Suggs, Davis, Winslow and Garcia (quite a Big East squad) They have a solid D also. I think we take the Browns though by keeping their potentially explosive O off the field. I see no reason why this team shouldn't start off 4-0. The test will be against the Ravens at home on Sunday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman56 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 We should be better, since Philly is getting more and more injured every week, the Giants are in rebuilding mode, and Dallas has Vinny Greenballs as their QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Of course this is all premature and plus we are all on the same Gibbs high but I see it like this. 1. The running game needs to continue to improve with Portis getting to know which way the o-line are going to block. 2. We need to shore up the middle on defense we all the blitzing the middle is going to be open for the run although they will pay the price with Taylor covering that. Finally I think we will win at least 10 games Gibbs is worth four by himself. He previewed to the league last Saturday exactly what to expect alot of and it I had reflections of the years gone by......run......run.....run.....try to stop me run.....run....oops gotcha ya pass TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xe101 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by SkinsHokie Fan I think even without Jansen our offense will be just fine this year and able to put up enough points to get wins. Good Point!!! The only issue I see is the I O's ability to put up the points.... The DEF is going to be the BEAST of the East, but will the O-Line stay healthy enough to open the hold for Portis and keep Brunell safe in the pocket... Remember last year Ramsey was sacked 30 times in 16 games last year... That's not counting the sacks the other QBs suffered as well. I know that Gibbs & Bugle will not let that happen~~ I can see the Skins going to a rolling pocket... :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 I think we will be 10-6. We should sweep the Giants, split with the Eagles and Cowboys, beat the Bucs, Browns, Packers, Bears, 49ers, and Bengals. I think the surprise game will be the Lions upseting us at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xe101 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by orlskinsfan 10-6....be a wildcard team 10-6 might not get you in the playoffs... The NFC will be tuff this year... and if it all plays out like the AFC did last year, or the year before 10-6 is not good enough without help! :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 The most nervous person on the field on 12 September will be Jon Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21dave Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 I still don't think we'll be a playoff team in Coach Gibbs first season. We're learning a new system, have a bunch of new players and have a coach that's been gone for 12 years. I forsee a slow start, probably losing to TB, Dallas and Baltimore before the bye week. But we'll rally the troops, finish on a 5 game win streak including a win at Dallas. Finishing at 9-7. but out of the Wild Card, but building momentum for a playoff run next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by SkinsHokie Fan Art here is what I am thinking I really think this team can and will start off at least 3-0 if not 4-0. I think Tampa is not as good as people think. I especially think we can score on their D. The Giants will have Eli in and as good as he looks he will still be a rookie QB. That D is not in great shape and we should win this game We have more talent then the Cowboys and finally have a coach that understands this rivalry. MNF, we'll be 2-0, the place will be rocking. I can't see us losing this game. Cleveland. This is a dangerous team with guys on their O such as Suggs, Davis, Winslow and Garcia (quite a Big East squad) They have a solid D also. I think we take the Browns though by keeping their potentially explosive O off the field. I see no reason why this team shouldn't start off 4-0. The test will be against the Ravens at home on Sunday night SHF, I don't disagree with you. This team CAN start off 3-0 or even 4-0. I just don't believe we will. I hope we will. I just think when all is said and done there are a number of factors working against us. I agree with you that Tampa isn't going to be that good. But, they are more stable within their systems than we are, even with a good bit of turnover. Also, we need to remember, Gibbs' teams often start slowly. In 1983 we lost the opener. In 1984 we started 0-2. In 1985 we were 1-3. In 1987 we were 1-1. In 1988 we were 2-3. In 1989 we were 0-2. In 1990 we were 1-1. In 1992 we were 0-1. These are just numbers to reflect that really only twice did Gibbs have his teams roll out of the blocks to start the year. We were typically stronger late than early. I think when you compound the personnel changes and the fact that only ONE guy on offense has any real idea what Gibbs is looking for -- Brown -- that we're going to have some problems early on that surpass typical slugish starts. In our favor is early emotion that will lift our play and the fact that Gibbs is really unknown as to what he'll actually do out there once things get rolling. If this team had a year under its belt already I'd agree with you that a 4-0 start is reasonable and even something to expect, despite Gibbs usually having a loss early on. I just suspect we'll lose a couple of games early that disappoint us and make us realize all the changes take time to work. If we DO start strong early, we're going to win the division. No offense to Philly, but, if Gibbs can get the team through the early indecision of learning new systems with victories, then he's going to romp once the team starts believing and coming together late. I just don't expect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by SkinsHokie Fan Art here is what I am thinking I really think this team can and will start off at least 3-0 if not 4-0. I tend to agree with Art that the 'skins will start slowly and pick up steam later on. Some of you younger guys may not remember it, and be going more on potential than reality. Further to what Art pointed out about the Redskins early season records, they are 5-7 under Gibbs in season openers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by Art Honestly, I think we're going to struggle tremendously early on. If we can sneak out a couple of early wins and gain some early momentum given how well Gibbs usually gets his teams to play late, we might be trouble for the league. In all though, I suspect we're going to lose some games in ways that will cause us concern early on. There will be uncertainty and hesitation from learning new systems that teams will exploit against us and it will take several weeks before we begin to resemble the team we might become. That we have a relatively easy schedule on paper is beneficial. That we could run into a large number of young QBs is great for us. These factors coupled with early season emotion might allow us for a greater season than I anticipate now. I just don't expect it to happen despite hoping it will. Dead on. I am worried much more about the early season than I am the last 8 games. I say 9-7. 8-8 would not surprise me and anything less will be unacceptable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Yep. I agree with Art on this one. I don't think we are going to look as good as most here think we are going to look during the first half of the season. But if we can get to mid-point at 4-4 or better, watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWill Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 One problem we won't have this year is players not 'buying into the system'. This has killed us for years. Did you see the looks on PR's face during the first Cowboys game last year? He was like, 'What the %#$& are you doing to me?' Although we may start slow in picking up JG's system.....I see us DOMINATING once we get rolling. 11-5....division champs (tie-breaker). Remember, we are back to the NFC beast....this division will be beating the crap out of itself recordwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 9-7( agree with Art, we will struggle early on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy35 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 I just don't want to have an unprepared team. Like the past couple of years where we had no answer for anything they threw at us. They blitzed we couldn't stop them, they zoned we couldn't do anything against them. I just want our guys to be prepared, the wins will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 I like 10-6. That should be good enough to make the playoffs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skin_fan_nc852004 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 yea 10-6 and the playoffs would be very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by Art Honestly, I think we're going to struggle tremendously early on. If we can sneak out a couple of early wins and gain some early momentum given how well Gibbs usually gets his teams to play late, we might be trouble for the league. In all though, I suspect we're going to lose some games in ways that will cause us concern early on. There will be uncertainty and hesitation from learning new systems that teams will exploit against us and it will take several weeks before we begin to resemble the team we might become. That we have a relatively easy schedule on paper is beneficial. That we could run into a large number of young QBs is great for us. These factors coupled with early season emotion might allow us for a greater season than I anticipate now. I just don't expect it to happen despite hoping it will. Another good post Art. We will some wins we don't deserve and some losses we don't deserve also. We have been so snake-bite since Joe left, it's hard for me not to be excited about the Coach being back. As I have said in so many other threads, 8-8 puts us in the right direction, but winning the Super Bowl is ALWAYS our goal. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 This team goes 11-5 winning 5 out of the first 6. Gibbs will not stand for a bad start and this team will finally live up to expectations under a solid head coach (pay attention SS) who has a GAMEPLAN and can make half time ADJUSTMENTS. Laveranues Coles and Brunell will pick teams apart in the early going. There is not a CB in the NFC who can run with #80. Its late in the year that we should be concerned about. With the lack of team depth and overly fragile players we have under contract we may run into problems late in the season and lose a few games when we have a lead in the division. The division is the key, the Giants swear they are not rebuilding but they are, the Eagles are contenders but Terell Owens will not be able to help the defense when every team in the league is passing all over them and the Cowgirls just plain suck. I have no idea how they made the playoffs last year but a good coach clearly made the difference. This team will want to play for Gibbs' approval / to win his respect, Portis will excell and the o-line should be just fine under Buges even without Jansen. Taylors presence in the secondary will change everything this year and Springs will fill in Champs shoes quite nicely. Team MVP Offense Portis Defense Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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