Riggins Seventy Chip Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 There have probably been over a hundred different variations of this contract discussed verbally between the agents and the Redskins. This is probably true with all large contracts (and maybe the small ones too). The bottom line is, the AGENTS and thus Lavar are at fault for not reading this over before they signed it. Why would the Skins try "to pull a fast one" by putting a different number in the written contract. Even if they wanted to rip Lavar off intentionally, this would be a stupid way to do it, because they have to rely on both the player and the agents not READING THE CONTRACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stompkins Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Lavar said they had a laugh about the 3 sixes being in there (which brought attention to it) and wanted that changed. Wouldn't he have noticed that the 3rd six wasnt in there when they changed the numbers around since his agent and him called it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novascotiadiesel Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 here is a little religion for Lavar "short bus" Arrington what is the one sin that is always punished and never forgiven? stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 "There are two sides to every building".......idiot does come to mind but I still want him here....man how on earth do these Don Kings...er i mean Poston's keep these clients so loyal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by novascotiadiesel here is a little religion for Lavar "short bus" Arrington what is the one sin that is always punished and never forgiven? stupidity No stupid, its being a cowboys fan. ----------------------------- 0-16, 19-0, skins fan till i die!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvan Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by Cskin Man, I wish we could just tear up that contract and jettison him to the Bengals.... What a freaking MORON!!!! So...he's demanding that the Redskins admit to making a mistake... yet deflect attention away from he and his agent failing to own up to their responsibilities and READ THE DAMN CONTRACT!!!! If I were the FO I'd ask the league to void the contract, and the inital contract he signed when he was drafted.... and I'd run away from him not walk away. Overhyped.... Overated.... Undiscplined..... Overemotional..... Egotistical...... Uncoachable.... MORON!!!! If you read the article Lavar fully admits its his fault that he didn't catch it. He says no ones perfect but just because he made a mistake doesn't mean the FO should take advantage of it and admit that it was agreed on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantaskin Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 OK, this is the first time that I am posting on this board, but I couldn't resist getting in on this one. LaVar has been the perfect "company man" since he got here. He's a total team player who has shown leadership in the lockeroom and who accepts responsibility when he screws up. He also hasn't been in any trouble and has been mostly low maintainence. From a business perspective, there is something to be said for fair dealing. If this was truly a mistake in reducing an agreement to writing, the 'skins shouldn't take advantage of that--wouldn't ya'll want your boss to say, "you're right, we did agree to that, I'll fix it"? There's more to this than a spoiled millionaire whinning about his bonus. This goes to the core of how the Redskins organization treats its employees--is it a good place to work. It can't look good to other players if the 'skins treat one of its top employees this way. I am, admittedly, giving LaVar the benefit of the doubt that there was such an agreement--only certain members of the FO and LaVar and his agent know the truth. Here's a sollution: 'skins give half to LaVar and tell him that they will make a donation to a charity of his choice with the other half--they don't have to admit they were wrong or that the bonus even existed, just that they want to show their franchise player some good faith and appreciation for his years of solid service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummagumma Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Poor Lavar, having to settle for the 2nd big signing bonus of his promising, but not accomplished career. If only all players were so misfortunate. Seriously, even the national media is backing the Redskins on this one. They keep saying how The Danny overpays everyone and gives these roster bonuses out like candy. Why would he not give Lavar everything he asked for? Lavar is just a deeply confused individual at this point. I also thought this article was a gag based on all the 666 stuff. The only way to solve that is to give Lavar ANOTHER HUGE BONUS? I think not. Lavar just sounds nuts, quite frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 the other thing about this is i don't think for one second it was levelled at Lavar.. Snyder deals with the Polstons..if it did happen it was to get over on those arragant pukes.. thus the 6.5 mil under the table Snyder gave Lavar...:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big z Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Any would anyone care to venture a guess as to why our moneybags owner would suddenly want to "pull a fast one" on a player....his most marketable player at that? It's ridiculous. Figures were thrown all about as someone mentioned, but bottomline, the skins will probobaly feel it was discussed but never agreed upon, whereas Lavar's camp would say, the hell it wasn't. The tiebreaker? Well, it's the signed contract. So sorry Lavar, sue your agent, game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNatsFan Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by longtimeskinsfan There is no way Snyder and the Redskins tried to pull a fast one on Lavar. Snyder has always shown his willingness to spend whatever money he has to put together a winning team (to a fault by some peoples reasoning). Snyder lives to sign free agents. If he started trying to cheat people in their contracts, how many free agents would be coming to Washington? It makes absolutely no sense that Snyder would intentionally try to pull a fast one to save 6.5 million (that's minor change to Snyder when a star player is involved). I agree. Obviously we don't know what did happen, but it makes no sense at all for Snyder to cheat a player out of 6.5 million dollars. He's in this for the long run. He's worked hard to show that he's an agent and player friendly owner. It would be ridiculous for him to start cheating players and agents. I would also guess that 99% of the time the agents actually read the contract before they initial it and their player signs it. So we're supposed to believe that the Redskins just happened to try to cheat a player on one of the rare times that the agent and player didn't happen to look at the whole contract? One other point that other posters have brought up. (I don't know how to quote more than one post.) If Lavar had looked at the original contract in detail and was concerned about the three sixes in it enough to ask that it be changed, I don't understand why he didn't look at the final contract in just as much detail to make sure they were no longer there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_dallas Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Any would anyone care to venture a guess as to why our moneybags owner would suddenly want to "pull a fast one" on a player....his most marketable player at that? How do think he made all that money to begin with- letting the cashier know that she mistakenly gave him change for a $20, when he only gave he a $10? I'm not saying he did it, but if they were kicking stuff around and he just threw out one of the bonuses to see what would happen and nobody noticed it, It wouldn;t suprise me that he didn't point it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miragv Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 i am getting more and more dissapointed with our FO. i donno exactly who is at fault but this should never happen. and i hate how we are signing people to such big contracts, we better have a plan to get out of cap trouble, i dont want to put all the chips into 2 or 3 seasons. iwant the skins to be a perennial contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qb18_200400 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by NavyDave He received a signing bonus of 20 million and is sniveling for a friggin roster bonus? Hopefully the skins win and that money can go to getting mid tier players. It was promised to him. I'd be pissed off if I didn't get it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qb18_200400 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I'm not sold on how everyone is saying LaVar hasn't accomplished sh**. Has anyone taken into consideration that he's had so many coaches his career. I know how it feels from experience. LaVar has been to the last couple of Pro Bowls even though he hasn't had the same coach. That is a big accomplishment right there. LaVar has made a name for himself around the league, LaVar, Lewis, and Urlacher are the most feared linebackers in the league. He's considered the fastest LB in the league. He's taken over for Darrell Green as MR. REDSKIN. I don't care if you' all don't like me after this post, who ever is hating on LaVar, screw you. You have no idea what it's like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turdfurguson Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I don't care if you' all don't like me after this post, who ever is hating on LaVar, screw you. You have no idea what it's like. Yup making millions to play ball I will never know. I don't care if the pay him or trade. Ask him who Troy Hambrick is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuels Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Look guys LaVar is basically saying it was agreed upon and that Danny knows it was. He's not holding out or anything like that and then he talks about Danny not talking to him like he normally does instead useing lawyer talk. He has said this was a quick deadline deal to help the Skins and thats why the time was taken to do everything right,he trusted Danny has a personal friend and owner. My big question is this i've read this new contract without the 6.5 million is only 800k more then his old contract and guarenteed money owed over the same time span. Can anyone confirm this because if so why in hell would he sign really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRock Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Let's pick up Holdman and trade lavar for some dline help!! ...lol...what a joke this guy is....overrated and overpaid...he may do alot more on the weakside but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jljorge Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Those of you who are knocking LaVar might as well go ahead and find somewhere else to post. This man has played his heart out for the Redskins since day one, (contrary to what some people think, he truly has). When other players were complaining about being a Redskin (see Champ Bailey), LaVar remained proud and just wanted to win. I tend to believe LaVar when he says that there was a flaw in his contract, and if any of you would listen to what he said in the interview, he's not bitter towards the fans, and he is STILL excited about playing football for the Redskins. He's only rightly disappointed with the Redskins front office. All of you screaming "Trade Him!" are in dire need of a lobotomy. Without LaVar, who on this team right now would step up and have his kind of passion, and motivate others? Who on this team is actually proud to be a Redskin right now? LaVar Arrington is going to be a legendary player once there is some stability in the coaching staff. It amazes me how dense some of you so called "Redskin Fans" are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Originally posted by jljorge Those of you who are knocking LaVar might as well go ahead and find somewhere else to post. This man has played his heart out for the Redskins since day one, (contrary to what some people think, he truly has). When other players were complaining about being a Redskin (see Champ Bailey), LaVar remained proud and just wanted to win. I tend to believe LaVar when he says that there was a flaw in his contract, and if any of you would listen to what he said in the interview, he's not bitter towards the fans, and he is STILL excited about playing football for the Redskins. He's only rightly disappointed with the Redskins front office. All of you screaming "Trade Him!" are in dire need of a lobotomy. Without LaVar, who on this team right now would step up and have his kind of passion, and motivate others? Who on this team is actually proud to be a Redskin right now? LaVar Arrington is going to be a legendary player once there is some stability in the coaching staff. It amazes me how dense some of you so called "Redskin Fans" are. Originally posted by jljorge Those of you who are knocking LaVar might as well go ahead and find somewhere else to post. So, people cannot express their opinions on this message board? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarb Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 666? Geez, how misguided can a person be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Do you ever wonder how LaVar got out of high school much less college? This is why he will never be one of the great ones IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarb Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Arrington's new number... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jljorge Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Yeah of course you can express your opinions on this board. It just amazes me how you all, as Redskins fans, can knock LaVar so hard. I mean come on now, trade LaVar for Holdman???????? How can you all read stuff like that and keep a straight face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Originally posted by jljorge Yeah of course you can express your opinions on this board. It just amazes me how you all, as Redskins fans, can knock LaVar so hard. I mean come on now, trade LaVar for Holdman???????? How can you all read stuff like that and keep a straight face? You just don't agree with it and express your own opinion, like you did. We're all Redskin fans here, and everyone wants what's best for the team, not the individual players, except maybe McCants, but that's because it seems like he bleeds Burgundy and Gold. Your opinion is Lavar is best for the team, while others is he is starting to be a disruption...trade him. Personally I think Lavar has the physical ability to be THE dominant Linebacker in the league, but for some reason he hasn't been. Maybe it's because he was moved to the Strong side, I don't know. I also don't think he has become enough of a distraction for us to trade him yet, though if he does, we should trade him. I think it also depends on how Lavar interacts with Coach Gibbs. If he is disrespectful in anyway to Coach Gibbs, he should be out of there before preseason. People think players make the team, and in a sense they do, only as individual parts that make up the team and not the team itself. Coach Gibbs can take average players, make them a team, and do wonderful things on the football field. When there is a distraction, it is not possible or rather harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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