MorgantownHokie88 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 New From The Post Source: Broncos, Redskins Discuss Portis-for-Bailey Swap By Nunyo Demasio Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, February 23, 2004; 3:20 PM The Washington Redskins are close to agreeing to trade Champ Bailey, their perennial Pro Bowl cornerback, to the Denver Broncos for second-year running back Clinton Portis, a Redskins source said today. But the potential deal cannot be consummated until Bailey agrees to a new contract with the Broncos. Under the proposed deal, the Redskins also would give the Broncos a second-round pick for Portis, who has rushed for more than 1,500 yards for the past two seasons. Denver is "just one of the teams we're talking to," Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins vice president for football operations, said this afternoon. "[Denver Coach] Mike Shanahan and I have had a couple of good conversations. I wouldn't say it's about a done deal. We're still in the talking phase." The prospect of a Bailey for Portis trade was first reported by the Denver Post today. Last August, Bailey rejected a nine-year, $55 million contract offer from the Redskins partly because the Redskins' proposed signing bonus of $14.75 million would not be paid in one lump sum. The Redskins didn't restart talks with Bailey again until last week. For the Bailey-Portis trade to go through, the Redskins' cornerback seemingly would demand a better offer than the one he turned down from Washington. Bailey has said he wanted a better deal than the Redskins' proposal of last year. Bailey's agent, Jack Reale, has started talks with the Broncos on a new contract. But Reale said today that it is premature to say that all sides are close to reaching agreement. "Anything is possible," Reale said, speaking from his Atlanta office. "The entire transaction is contingent on him [bailey] agreeing, and unless that happens there is no deal." Portis, 22, has rushed for at least 1,500 yards during the past two seasons. Bailey, 25, has made the Pro Bowl in each of his four NFL seasons. According to sources with intimate knowledge of the situation, the Detroit Lions are also still in the running for Bailey's services. The Lions are willing to accede to Bailey's contract demands, sources with knowledge of the negotiations said. The Redskins have lowered their initial demand from Detroit, and are now seeking Detroit's first-round pick (no. 6 overall) and second-round pick in April's draft. Before, the Redskins were asking for a first-round pick, second-round pick and perhaps a player. The Lions, who are reluctant to give up their draft picks, are still mulling the Redskins' offer. On Wednesday, the Redskins placed the franchise tag on Bailey by making a one-year contract offer of $6.8 million. Without it, Bailey would have become an unrestricted free agent on March 1. The Redskins can retain Bailey for next season by matching any offer from another team. If the Redskins allow Bailey to sign with another team without a trade, Washington gets two first-round draft picks. No trades can become official until March 3, but NFL teams are allowed to reach agreements in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Post is about 12 hours behind. Is Vinny behind all of this? If so I am very impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvan Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Good morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma Post is about 12 hours behind. Is Vinny behind all of this? If so I am very impressed. Are you still riding Nunyo's jock? He isn't 1/100th the beat reporter that Maske was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by Zen-like Todd Are you still riding Nunyo's jock? He isn't 1/100th the beat reporter that Maske was. I never said he was as good as Maske, just thought people were ganging up on him to fast. If the post was caught with their pants down on this that does not look good, maybe Gibbs likes the WT better? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 So... the Lions may be willing to play ball because the Redskins dropped the "additional player" from their demands? I'm not sure I'm buying that.... it didn't seem that the Lions hesitation was over a "player", but over giving up a #1 and #2 which they need to fill holes. Hummm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma I never said he was as good as Maske, just thought people were ganing up on him to fast. If the post was caught with their pants down on this that does not look good, maybe Gibbs likes the WT better? Who knows. This has nothing to do with Gibbs. And nothing to do with the Washington Times. It has everything to do with Nunyo's ability as a journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Trade Champ to detroit and give Denver #6 and our second pick for portis :applause: or trade N.Y. for Abe and a 2nd and still trade a 1st and 2nd for Portis :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 seems like he's just ripping off the AP stuff. Clayton had the Jets in the mix.....Nunyo is out of the loop. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyG3 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 No thread for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posse81 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I didn't think Nunyo handled the Brunell thing all that bad, but we've been through that. I AM shocked the WP is so behind on this. Maske would have had something up by noon. Hopefully its just a matter of Nunyo learning the ropes. I guess time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 This guy Nunyo is trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Doesn't the Post usually just print these things when the deals are done?? I didn't think they were always first with the speculation stories....not sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I know from personal experience that in sports reporting, you don't need to break the story, just make sure it's known by the people who read the paper by the time the next issue comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novato Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Whatever is best for the team and the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Bailey, 25, has made the Pro Bowl in each of his four NFL seasons. :notworthy I wish I was this smart. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by Zen-like Todd This has nothing to do with Gibbs. And nothing to do with the Washington Times. It has everything to do with Nunyo's ability as a journalist. I'd just echo that. If I had to make a Lenny-like guess (in other words, with no basis in actual knowledge), it would be that Nunyo has yet to get anywhere with the new coaching staff, and that they're no longer feeding stuff to the Post by default because they don't really trust the guy yet. As opposed to Maske, who would always (always) have the gold-standard truth even if everyone else was reporting something different. Even his latest chats have appeared to be more in-the-know than Nunyo's reporting. Maybe he's just hurting because he didn't report about the NFL until 2002... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by Heavy Jumbo AKA Buck :notworthy I wish I was this smart. :laugh: I positively love the sig!!!!!:laugh: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 We're in great position right now. The reports that we're on the verge of a deal with Denver mean we're driving the demand for champ. Now Detroit has to sweeten their offer in order to stay in the running. Plus teams that were waiting for the our demands to drop before entering the mix now must give us a ridiculous offer if they want to be serious. I say we give up our second rounder and then confirm the rumors and trade #5 to the pats for #21 and #32 and one of highest of their two second round picks. We get the game breaking RB Gibbs' so desires, and recoup some of the picks we've dealt away in deals with Denver and Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WM_Marylander Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Sign him up! The only concern I would have is making sure they sign Portis to a significant contract, so they don't have to go through another contract situation... Although the 2nd hurts, I'd take Portis in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunner Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Welcome to the party. Who brought the cool guy?:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 first and second? I'ld take the lion's deal over the broncos any day. trade the 6th pick for extra picks. we can restock the defense and rb with all the picks. how about the sixth pick for a first and a second? that leaves us with 2 firsts and 3 seconds!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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