KevinthePRF Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Why is Denver wanting, or willing to part ways with Portis? Why does he not fit into their organization plans at 22 yrs of age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 $$$$ He has said he will hold out without a new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Made Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Their Seconday sucks, and they probably think they can replace CPORT that backup they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyG3 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 ...why... are you starting another thread on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 lol, sorry Wally, there is too many, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Because they know their running backs are only as good as their blocking scheme and they can always grab a second or third round running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Shanahan obviously feels like he can find another back who can give the team a viable running option. The man's 4 for his last 4 with Portis, Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, and Olandis Gary so it's hard to doubt him. He's also probably a little tired of losing games 27-24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novascotiadiesel Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 oh exactly!!!!! this is a huge mistake. here are my predictions, bailey lights up the league next year on whatever team he is on and portis is exposed as a talentless injury prone flop the broncos team offense is the reason both he and davis were stars, not any of their own talent, why can't we deal for someone who makes an offense look good not the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 yeah so I guess it will be us losing those 27-24 games now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma $$$ hahahahahaha :laugh: Champ is going to cost them more than Portis would. Denver is easily giving up Portis because they NEED a CB badly, and with their offense they can easily replace Portis's production with Griffin and or Mike Anderson (who also had a 1500 yard season before moving to FB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Merge please… there are enough Portis threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 Mike Anderson (who also had a 1500 yard season before moving to FB) Bubba he only did it once so please get over the Anderson thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Tooth Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by novascotiadiesel oh exactly!!!!! this is a huge mistake. here are my predictions, bailey lights up the league next year on whatever team he is on and portis is exposed as a talentless injury prone flop the broncos team offense is the reason both he and davis were stars, not any of their own talent, why can't we deal for someone who makes an offense look good not the other way around? :mexican: :mexican: :mexican: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by novascotiadiesel oh exactly!!!!! this is a huge mistake. here are my predictions, bailey lights up the league next year on whatever team he is on and portis is exposed as a talentless injury prone flop the broncos team offense is the reason both he and davis were stars, not any of their own talent, why can't we deal for someone who makes an offense look good not the other way around? Anyone who thinks Portis is talentless should go back to watching soccer or women's volleyball. The guy is a special talent which was easy to see while he was at Miami. The only knock was his size but Emmitt and Dorsett were about the same size. Blocking schemes in general only get you through the line of scrimmage. After that its the RB who makes a difference. Portis is a game changing RB which the Skins havent had since, well, maybe never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 for the money that champs wants I'd rather spend it on a RB anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by Phat Hog Merge please… there are enough Portis threads. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma Bubba he only did it once so please get over the Anderson thing. He only started one season :doh: It's not like he was the feature back several seasons and only had one productive year. Davis came back the next season so Anderson volunteered to move to FB, then the Bronco's drafted Portis. You want to get over something get ovger the Redskins don't draft well in the 2nd round so we can just give it away argument :laugh: you have yet to give even one logical reason why the Skins should give up Champ and the #38 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 2nd round so we can just give it away argument :laugh: you have yet to give even one logical reason why the Skins should give up Champ and the #38 pick. Bubba what you would prefer: Keep champ and our 1st and second pick and don't have much cap room because of champ's number or Get Portis sign to an 8 year cap friendly deal which gives us more room then we would have with Champ on the team Trade the #5 for either 2 1sts or a 1st, 2nd, and maybe a third? we could possibly pick up 2 or 3 extra FA's if we make this deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Why would he sign a cap friendly contract when he sees that he is worth a champ bailey and the 38th pick in the draft? Why shouldnt he deserve a 14 million dollar SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Riggins was a game changing back (see 1982-84). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma Bubba what you would prefer: Keep champ and our 1st and second pick and don't have much cap room because of champ's number or Get Portis sign to an 8 year cap friendly deal which gives us more room then we would have with Champ on the team Trade the #5 for either 2 1sts or a 1st, 2nd, and maybe a third? we could possibly pick up 2 or 3 extra FA's if we make this deal jbooma THESE are not the only options!!!!!!!!! there are other teams wanting Bailey for one. Two call Denver's bluff, trust me they need Bailey more than Portis, The Skins can work a better deal with them than Giving up Bailey and the #38 and again the Cap is not so bad where keeping Champ franchised is going to kill us. The Skins have many other moves to make that will free up plenty of $$$$. I believe this deal will go through, and I don't think we will give up the #2, if we were going to do that... we would have already agreed to that one sided deal. Gibbs said they have different scenarios on the table with Denver. Gibbs knows we have plenty of time, and plenty of options, we don't have to make a bad trade, we can be patient and get the best possible deal. Whether it be with Denver or some other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 jbooma THESE are not the only options!!!!!!!!! there are other teams wanting Bailey for one. Two call Denver's bluff, trust me they need Bailey more than Portis, The Skins can work a better deal with them than Giving up Bailey and the #38 I know but if it takes throwing in the second rounder I say do it because you don't have the chance of getting a RB the caliber of Portis too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueck Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I'm with Jbooma. Portis is a game changing back that has proven just how great he is, plus he's only 22. I don't feel to great about giving up our 2nd round pick as well, but with Brunell plus Portis we instantly have a solid offense. Portis has it all, speed, power, smarts - he is a complete back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Going to Va Tech has given me the special oppurtunity to see some special guys live like Micheal Vick, Dwight Freeney, Clinton Portis, Kevin Jones, etc. And I will say Clinton Portis really impressed me in the 2001 game at Tech. The guy refused to go down, was fast and had a terrific game against a very good defense. He even had a terrific game in 1999 (139 yards) but his fumbles were costly. Clearly he had learned from the 1999 game in 2001. I think if we bring him in here that would be awesome. However I am still skeptical on this trade. I think the team needs picks and needs them badly. Trading Champ for Portis just isn't gonna cut it. Giving up our 2nd is a big no no. I need something back from Denver. Someone, a pick, something to make this happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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