kam Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Smooth could be a shut down corner? Work with me fellas this is my first post. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanders 83 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 It would have been a bigger problem last year, with Edwards being unable to adapt to his players. I think if Smoot has to be the top corner next year, with Williams running the show, the job will get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I don't think it matters. Champ isn't going anywhere. Outside of his love for huge signing bonuses....he's been a solid player and the type the Gibbs should like. He doesn't showboat or run his mouth to the media. He goes up against the other teams top WR...wins more battles than he loses...then goes home at night. We've got the vocal leaders like Arrington and Smoot on the D. We can afford Champ to be the lead by example type. Playing hurt.....not complaining about injuries. This isn't Stephen Davis all over again. Champ is younger and doesn't miss games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I love Champ but I think he is gone. Smoot is good, but I don't think that he can hold up as a top flight DB against some of the more physical #1 WR's. I think we would need to get a good corner right away to help him out if Champ goes. Hopefully we don't have to worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_dallas Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Is there any word on his contract status? Is he still ineterested in signing a deal with them or will he/can he be franchised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 I think this is a bigger issue than getting a veteran QB if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_dallas Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I think this is a bigger issue than getting a veteran QB if you ask me. Yes it is. The Skins already have a pretty good young QB under contract and they could lose a shutdown corner while they chase down an injury prone 33 years left handed (Samuels on the blidside) QB in exchange for picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by Bufford T Justice I don't think it matters. Champ isn't going anywhere.... I hope you are right about that one BTJ... I am concerned, however, that they haven’t started contract talks again with his agent. Maybe after Gibbs has an opportunity to make whatever assessments he needs to make – but March approacheth quickly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I was pretty sure in season that Champ preferred to leave. I'm not sure where he stands now. To the question, I think that Smoot could be a shut down corner... if we can start generating pressure. There were numerous observations about qb's not testing Smoot a lot and some suggested they attacked Champ's side more than Smoot. The difference between the two of them seems to be that Smoot makes positive plays more often. He seems to have more interceptions, batted balls etc. Champ is a better athlete and probably better in pure coverage. The difference is the penalty Smoot makes a team pay. Champ is a great cover guy usually, but he rarely makes an opponent pay for attacking his man. He hasn't been a great threat ever really. He's not a playmaker. He may be an elite player (not last year in my opinion), but he is not a playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_dallas Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Champ is a great cover guy usually, but he rarely makes an opponent pay for attacking his man. He hasn't been a great threat ever really. He's not a playmaker. He may be an elite player (not last year in my opinion), but he is not a playmaker. Funny thing about playmaking CBs- they usually get a lot of plays made on them as well. Give me the solid cover guy over the big play CB who guesses too much any day of the week....JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsblitz Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 First off let me start by saying Welcome to the board kam!! I think Smoot would do OK without Champ, but it would still be an incredible blow to our defense if we lost Champ. I have a bunch more respect for Smoot now after his performance this past season. Playing through the pain of that chest injury had to be tough. Hopefully the team will get a deal done with Champ and we won't have to sweat this out any longer. He is the best shutdown corner in the league right now and a huge part of our defense. Plus, he's like one of the very few guys that have been here a while. We need stability in the locker room and he's one of the guys who can bring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 i think smoot will step up to the challenge and probably end up near the top of the league in interceptions. how often he'll get beat/exposed in the running game will depend on the guys in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redblazer00 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Smoot is good but not even in the same league as a shut down corner. All you have to do is look back at the Carolina game and see the value of Champ vs. Smoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Smoot could be be a #1 corner in terms of how well he covers. Yet we'll be hurting big time in more than one way if Champ leaves. Bailey is the better corner in run support, Smoot rarely ever brings a ballcarrier down all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycskinsfan Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (Samuels on the blidside)???? Samuels is on the blindside now bringing in Brunell would put Jansen on the blindside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 No and Champ isn't going anywhere he's a team player we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Champ is going nowhere. It makes no sense to get rid of one of the top 3 corners in the league.....They will make the neccessary means to keep him in burg. and gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsNation Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 TROY FAKEMAN - damm i enjoy that pic. - Im going down to Dallas this year and that pic. is getting me all fired up. Maybe Art can put a countdown to Dallas ticker on the homepage when the schedule is announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by kam Smooth could be a shut down corner? Work with me fellas this is my first post. Thanks. First of all, I don't see the correlation between Smoot becoming a shut down corner and Champ leaving. But it brings up the point: What's the coaching staff think? With the pursuit of Brunnell I'm starting to think that such priorities as resigning Champ and addressing the d-line have taken a backseat and are no longer the team's top objectives this offseason. I have no idea how we'll be able to sign Champ, bring in a top-vet d-lineman, address the rb situation, add youth to the d-line AND add much needed cheap depth to positions like linebacker and o-line when the team's first move in free agency seems to be signing a 33 year old qb to a $20 million deal AND giving away a third round pick in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Greg Williams defense is predicated on the corners being able to play man coverage in a lot of situations. Not sure if Smoot could be a shut down corner but I feel fairly certain that if Champ does leave, he'll be replaced with a guy who is not currently on our roster who can get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Originally posted by MAPTASTIC First of all, I don't see the correlation between Smoot becoming a shut down corner and Champ leaving. But it brings up the point: What's the coaching staff think? With the pursuit of Brunnell I'm starting to think that such priorities as resigning Champ and addressing the d-line have taken a backseat and are no longer the team's top objectives this offseason. I have no idea how we'll be able to sign Champ, bring in a top-vet d-lineman, address the rb situation, add youth to the d-line AND add much needed cheap depth to positions like linebacker and o-line when the team's first move in free agency seems to be signing a 33 year old qb to a $20 million deal AND giving away a third round pick in the process. So which one is it? "bring in a top-vet d-lineman" or "add youth to the d-line"? As I tried asking you in another thread, do you think that ALL of the needs you listed can be fixed in one offseason? No team could do all of that. Perhaps Gibbs is addressing what he perceives as the most pressing need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 There is no doubt in my mind that Smoot can be our #1 CB, or any team, but just don't try to compare him with Champ. It's even better to have two players in that caliber on the team. I've always been on Champ's side and always will be, no matter we re-sign him or not. He's the type of player I like since DG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingchris626 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I love champ on the skins too. but I also think he wants to leave....after he didn't take the offer the skins gave him last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 champ will be with us if we have to use the franchise tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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