NavyDave Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 http://www.tehrantimes.com/Detailview.asp?Keyword=john kerry&Da=2/8/2004&Cat=2&Num=26 Kerry Says He Will Repair Damage If He Wins Election WASHINGTON (Mehr News Agency) -- The office of Senator john kerry, the frontrunner in the Democratic presidential primary in the U.S., sent the Mehr News Agency an e-email saying that Kerry will try to repair the damage done by the incumbent president if he wins the election. The text of the e-mail follows. As Americans who have lived and worked extensively overseas, we have personally witnessed the high regard with which people around the world have historically viewed the United States. Sadly, we are also painfully aware of how the actions and the attitudes demonstrated by the U.S. government over the past three years have threatened the goodwill earned by presidents of both parties over many decades and put many of our international relationships at risk. It is in the urgent interests of the people of the United States to restore our country's credibility in the eyes of the world. America needs the kind of leadership that will repair alliances with countries on every continent that have been so damaged in the past few years, as well as build new friendships and overcome tensions with others. We are convinced that john kerry is the candidate best qualified to meet this challenge. Senator Kerry has the diplomatic skill and temperament as well as a lifetime of accomplishments in field of international affairs. He believes that collaboration with other countries is crucial to efforts to win the war on terror and make America safer. An understanding of global affairs is essential in these times, and central to this campaign Kerry has the experience and the understanding necessary to successfully restore the United States to its position of respect within the community of nations. He has the judgment and vision necessary to assure that the United States fulfills a leadership role in meeting the challenges we face throughout the world. The current Administration's policies of unilateralism and rejection of important international initiatives, from the Kyoto Accords to the Biological Weapons Convention, have alienated much of the world and squandered remarkable reserves of support after 9/11. This climate of hostility affects us all, but most especially impacts those who reside overseas. Disappointment with current U.S. leadership is widespread, extending not just to the corridors of power and politics, but to the man and woman on the street as well. We believe john kerry is the Democrat who can go toe-to-toe against the current Administration on national security and defense issues. We also remain convinced that john kerry has the best chance of beating the incumbent in November, and putting America on a new course that will lead to a safer, more secure, and more stable world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Funny, several other countries, including Russia are backing away from Kyoto. Any nation wanting to not be dragged into the depths by environazism based on a debunked climate study is going to do the same. Unilateral..ugh, I'm getting tired of hearing that. I hate Kerry and I hate all the rest of them. Not merely because they disagree, but they have no honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Back to kissing ass if he gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Kerry is clearly a politician who will say or do anything to get elected. I despise that. And addressing an email to a foreign country that undercuts the sitting president's foreign policy is bull****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Blue_chill Wow!! Nothing to say there blue chill? Kerry wants to support a brutal terrorist government in Iran and all you have the balls to do is roll your eyes. Typical liberal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ghost Who Talks Funny, several other countries, including Russia are backing away from Kyoto. Any nation wanting to not be dragged into the depths by environazism based on a debunked climate study is going to do the same. Unilateral..ugh, I'm getting tired of hearing that. I hate Kerry and I hate all the rest of them. Not merely because they disagree, but they have no honor. Uh, The climate studies that lead many to believe that global warming is a reality have NEVER been debunked. If you don't agree with the conclusions, thats your opinion. But to say they have been debunked is simply not true. BTW. I don't support Kerry and sending that email was wrong. However I am not willing to turn off my brain and dissagree with the dems on every issue. That would be no better than a democrat doing the same with every republican stance. The posible danger of global warming is such that if we cross the point of no returnit could lead to a global catastrophy. Faced with two choices we can either act to be sure that does not happen or cross our fingers and hope those scientists are wrong. Much as Tony Blair said regarding the danger Sadam posed, I consider the cost of making the wrong choice too high to be an acceptable risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Mad Mike Uh, The climate studies that lead many to believe that global warming is a reality have NEVER been debunked. If you don't agree with the conclusions, thats your opinion. But to say they have been debunked is simply not true. The climate studies used to back up the theory of global warming from man made CO2 has several flaws in it. When those are fixed the theory falls apart but people who support global wealth distrubution using the kyoto treaty are trying to keep the theory afloat but it's dying at a rapid rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Punani Wow!! Nothing to say there blue chill? Kerry wants to support a brutal terrorist government in Iran and all you have the balls to do is roll your eyes. Typical liberal.... The e-mail is speaking in general about the diplomatic policy relating to the world. If you want to equate that to support for a single goverment, you are free to do so. I for one don't believe irrational leaps to partisan conclusions merit anything more then rolling eyes. so here you go again buddy - :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Punani The climate studies used to back up the theory of global warming from man made CO2 has several flaws in it. When those are fixed the theory falls apart but people who support global wealth distrubution using the kyoto treaty are trying to keep the theory afloat but it's dying at a rapid rate. So would you say the majority of the scientific community agrees with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Blue_chill The e-mail is speaking in general about the diplomatic policy relating to the world. If you want to equate that to support for a single goverment, you are free to do so. I for one don't believe irrational leaps to partisan conclusions merit anything more then rolling eyes. so here you go again buddy - :rolleyes: :rolleyes: LMAO!! Wow, talking about living in a bubble. The email was send to the Mehr News Agency in Iran. Now why would Kerry send an email that "spoke in general about diplomatic policy relating to the world" to an Iranian news agency? That's a pretty logical question to me. I'm shocked your such a partisan wonk that you have to change reality itself to conform to your delusional ideals and assumptions. Here, I'm game... :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Blue_chill So would you say the majority of the scientific community agrees with you? Republicans know much more about the effects of CO2 on our climate than scientists. Didn't you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Blue_chill So would you say the majority of the scientific community agrees with you? Yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by endzone_dave Republicans know much more about the effects of CO2 on our climate than scientists. Didn't you know that? Hey endzone dave, look at my occupation and then say something ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Punani Hey endzone dave, look at my occupation and then say something ok... OK, I'll rephrase it: Repulicans, exluding Johnny Punani, know much more about the effects of CO2 on our climate than scientists. Didn't you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Punani Hey endzone dave, look at my occupation and then say something ok... lucky **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by endzone_dave OK, I'll rephrase it: Repulicans, exluding Johnny Punani, know much more about the effects of CO2 on our climate than scientists. Didn't you know that? Thanks Dave.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma lucky **** Why is that Lucky?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Punani Why is that Lucky?? I meant it is a cool job :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Uh geniuses, there are hundreds of scientists that disagree with the conclusions drawn by those who feel global warming is occurring. I should even say that I won't niggle about whether there is a kind of global warming happening, but the fact is it's cyclical and there have been warmings and mini-ice ages in the past with almost no human element to be held accountable for the change. Not only that, but the guy who pioneered the theory early on said that his initial findings were flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBill Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Claim: A mural in Iraq depicts an airplane slamming into buildings resembling the World Trade Center towers. Status: True. Origins: On 26 March 2003, a mural showing an airplane crashing into one of two tall vertical buildings and setting it aflame (while a second airplane approaches the other building) was discovered by U.S. Marines searching Iraqi military headquarters in Nasiriya. The plane in this cheerily-hued painting bears the logo and color scheme of Iraqi Airlines. The now famous photo, which shows two Marines in front of the mural, was taken by Joe Raedle, a photo journalist accompanying the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force from Task Force Tarawa. No comment has so far been offered as to whether the mural pre-dates the September 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City or whether it was painted afterwards in celebration of same. Barbara "artless" Mikkelson Vote Kerry and there will be painting like this in Iran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma I meant it is a cool job :cool: Oh, think so huh? It's not as "cool" as everyone thinks. It's pretty boring at times. Plus, working the graveyard shift blows as well. However, thunderstorms and winter storms are fun to work. You should see some of the people I work with ping out and bounce off the walls during stuff like that. Total weather geeks...:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Punani The climate studies used to back up the theory of global warming from man made CO2 has several flaws in it. When those are fixed the theory falls apart but people who support global wealth distrubution using the kyoto treaty are trying to keep the theory afloat but it's dying at a rapid rate. Care to share details? Please show me the flaws. The FACT is that you cannot prove global warming is not happening. you can have your opinions but that does not make them fact. BTW. I'm not saying we simply sign on with the accords. I'm simply saying the wise thing to do is take every reasonable precation while the studies continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Why should we just stop at global warming? Man made emissions have created nearly unbreathable air in many major cities and counties. Anyone care to come to Kern or Kings County in California can see what man made emissions have done to the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Here you go... http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p37.htm Close to 20,000 scientists have signed this petition... Global Warming Petition We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth. American Association of State Climatologists State Climatologists Skeptical of Administrations Global Warming Having just returned from the annual meeting of the American Association of State Climatologists (for which I will be President for the next year), I can tell you that there is a great deal of global warming skepticism among my colleagues. For every outspoken scientist like Pat Michaels there are dozens of less verbose but equally committed men and women who do not buy into the Administration's point of view. Far from being a "done deal," the global warming scenarios are looking shakier and shakier. I have encouraged the other state climatologists to speak up on this issue and intend to be a spokesman myself (see, for example, July 25 1998 Science News). It's interesting to me that the tactics of the "advocates" seems to be to 1) call the other side names ("pseudo-scientists") and 2) declare the debate over ("the vast majority of credible scientists believe..."). I'm grateful for those who are running top-notch Web sites (SEPP, junkscience, John Daly, Doug Hoyt, Pat Michaels, etc.) to keep the dialogue open and enable us to share relevant information and scientific data (and also provide encouragement). George Taylor, State Climatologist Oregon Climate Service 316 Strand Hall Oregon State University Corvallis OR 97331-2209 http://www.ocs.orst.edu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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