Skins26 Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 On another site someone said they saw a mock draft on the NFL Network that said, Eli did not go to the Chargers with the first pick. They said, with the first pick in the 2004 NFL draft the San Diego Chargers select......... Sean Taylor Safety, Miami Thats right, they said that Taylor went first overall. Thats how good he is folks, this is an actual possibility! I have thought about this before, but wasnt sure if they would actually do it. But you gotta think its possible, maybe Marty just wont be able to resist taking him?? I think this is something that could actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJWatson3 Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 if eli doesn't go number one i am guessing it is because the Chargers trade down. someone would be willing to trade up to pick manning, roethlisberger, or fitzgerald number one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 One of the two QB's is going to be drafted #1, thats for sure. Maybe not by the Chargers if they trade out of the spot, but by someone. Reportedly FitzGerald is great, but he wont run a blistering 40, so he is not going to be the first player selected. Nor is a safety going to be the first player selected, no manner how great Taylor is. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Taylor is legit, but I don't see him going first overall. I think it will be one of the two QB's or Fitzgerald. The draft strategies of every team will become much clearer once free agency starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 I could see Taylor or Fitzgerald go #1, they are the best players in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 The Steelers should trade Maddox and Burress for that #1 pick. Get Manning and have him, Hines Ward and Randel El. That would be sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigginsbiggins44 Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 I can't imagine SD not taking a QB, Drew Brees doesn't seem to be the answer down there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma I could see Taylor or Fitzgerald go #1, they are the best players in this draft. I think Taylor and FitzGerald are the best players at THEIR POSITIONS, but I dont think they are the best players in the draft. All things being equal, QB's are always higher rated, because they handle the ball on every single play. In some games safeties dont even get in on a single play or record a single tackle! When was the last time a safety was the first player drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum When was the last time a safety was the first player drafted? There is always a first time for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Didn't the Chargers skip over Peyton Manning when he was drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Phat Hog Didn't the Chargers skip over Peyton Manning when he was drafted? No. As I recall the Chargers preferred Manning, but traded up to the #2 spot with Arizona to get the 2nd best QB in Leaf. That was the best they could do and it didnt work out. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum No. As I recall the Chargers preferred Manning, but traded up to the #2 spot with Arizona to get the 2nd best QB in Leaf. That was the best they could do and it didnt work out. :laugh: :laugh: That's right... thanks for the update! Well, maybe they won't take a high-draft QB after all. How great was that move! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Phat Hog :laugh: That's right... thanks for the update! Well, maybe they won't take a high-draft QB after all. How great was that move! :laugh: After screwing up with Vick I think they have to take Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 no way a safety is going #1. i don't care if its ronnie lott's clone. a safety will never be drafted @1. i think #5 is way to high to draft a safety let alone #1. the year the cowboys drafted roy williams, he too was the clear cut, far and away BPA, and even then people thought they were crazy for drafting him so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 As I recall people were calling Roy Williams a fantastic pick. If Taylor is gone before #5, we give someone a call to trade down with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma After screwing up with Vick I think they have to take Manning. I agree with Jbooma on this one. The Chargers will take Manning. But if not, there is no way the Chargers will allow their hated rivals the Raiders to get Eli Manning. If the Chargers dont draft Manning, they will trade down with some other team that will, to at least prevent the Raiders from getting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Haha Safety is so difficult to find good players at you can simply move CBs over to FS when you have up and comers at the corner or when the CB gets old. Corey Chavous(too slow for CB) had 9 picks I think this year as FS in his first year at the position. Aeneas Williams, the HoF corner was switched to S and made the Pro Bowl and led the league in fumbles recovered by a S. Rod Woodson had many successful years at S. Ronnie Lott was moved from CB. Sehorn(thoug he's not very good at any position due to all those injuries) Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 What do you have to pay the #1 pick? Granted Carson Palmer, as a qb, will have a different contract - but here is his contract (ESPN.com): 1. QB Carson Palmer, Southern California (No. 1 overall): Signing bonus: $10,010,000. Base salaries: $1,070,000 (2003); $1,338,000 (2004); $1,605,000 (2005, plus $4,000,000 option bonus); $1,872,500 (2006); $2,140,500 (2007); $2,407,500 (2008); $1,267,500 (2009). Note: The base salaries for 2005 and 2006 are fully guaranteed and $522,500 of the base salary for 2007 is guaranteed. If certain performance and playing time benchmarks are achieved in 2003 or 2004, the base salaries escalate to $3,420,000 (2004); $3,750,000 (2005); $4,750,000 (2006, plus $1,500,000 roster bonus); $5,875,000 (2007, plus $1,500,000 roster bonus). The base salary for 2008 escalates to $8,125,000 based on minimum playing time in either 2005 or 2006. The 2009 season is voided if player achieves minimum playing time levels in any season between 2005-2008. Total: seven years, $21,710,500, or six years for up to $49 million. Cap charge: $2,500,000 . Now do you think any team can pay a safety -- no matter HOW good - that kind of money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDALERT Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Well, it could happen. Marty loves DB's and Sean Taylor is a Marty type player in the secondary. Also, they may not be ready to give up on brees, especially since he was a high draft pick. To select 2 QB's very high within a 5 year span could be risky and not something the coach or owner would want to do. Even thoght Manning is a franchise QB, they still may want to work with drew brees. Who's to say, they may select Fitzgerald #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Glory Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 The Chargers are a very stupid team but I think even they recognize that Breeze isn't a big time QB. They could trade out and get alot of picks to put around him. That's sounds about right for them. They always do the wrong thing. The right thing would be to sit and take Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 The chargers are in a dilemma they are still smarting from the leaf situation, passed on Vick but got LT and Brees who was rushed into starting IMO and really dont have any targets. Does marty (Frankly) schott4brains try to groom a QB at the expense of being fired after another losing season or does he trade down to fill the numerous holes on both sides of the ball? If he does the second pick will be Eli manning to the raiduhs and I dont want to hear the missus version of in yo face. S Taylor hopefully is picked by us unless we get a very very good deal to trade down. A safety who can also cover the 3rd/4th receiver, TE or RB out of the backfield and provide run support. We have wasted the first round on offense it seems forever and now its time to fix the defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 I really hope we do trade down...that will help with some cap issues too...I have feeling we will especially with this Bailey situation and the signing of free-agents...if we can start to manage the cap a little better which we have been doing recently we should be able to establish a very good bench inaddition to having excellent starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Taylor is a big time talent & is the best at his position in this draft, but with the hype that he is getting he is beginning to be overrated. The kid is not perfect & he does have flaws in his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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