Latest Mock Draft: Skins Take Udeze @ 5 Spot

[Canadian Hog]

This is a February 1st mock draft. I find it very hard to believe that Kenechi Udeze will be taken 5th overall by the Skins unless he has a phenomenal performance at the combine which raises his stock. Sean Taylor dropping out of the top 5 is also hard to believe.

Anyways, here it is:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/

[Skins26]

file this mock under the HUGE JOKE section.

Udeze at 5!!!!!

Wow, why dont we just draft Heath Shuler again!

[Jimbo]

Hmmm....Udeze, Greg Jones and Will Allen. Could definietly be worse.

[Storm]

This is what he said about taylor:

In 2001 I said Roy Williams was the best safety prospect I had ever seen and now, in only his second year with the Cowboys, he is already arguably the best safety in the NFL. That is why it is no small statement when I say that Taylor is even better and I have no doubts that he will be one of the premier players at his position from week one of his rookie season. Taylor is a physical freak who is build like a Greek God, runs like a gazelle, hits like a Mack truck and is a playmaker in every sense of the word. The Lions have some building blocks on defense with Shaun Rogers, Boss Bailey and Dre' Bly but they could use some help at safety, which is where Taylor comes in. There is a chance this guy could come off the board as early as the #2 overall pick so Detroit would be very fortunate to find him still available at this point in round one. I have Sean Taylor rated as the #2 player in this Draft regardless of position and I think he would be an excellent choice for the Lions here.

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How could you not want to draft him over Udeze?

[Ghost of]

Williams isn't the best S in the league, not even by a long shot.

Only a moron who doesn't count pass coverage in his evaluation of a safety would make such a mind-numbingly stupid statement.

And Skins26, Heath Shuler? You think the dominant defensive player in college(it WASNT TAYLOR) this year is equivalent to Heath shuler?

Why do you pro-Taylor a-holes have to continually deride Udeze's ability?

[Eparadox]

Man, what is with you people and Taylor? I agree, Udeze at #5 is a little high, but when you have possibly the worst DLine in the league(no joke), what the hell are you supposed to do...yeah, go out and draft and safety, and tie up tons of bucks in the secondary, great philosophy. Hey, I wish we could draft Taylor, I think he's an awesome prospect, but only if we trade Champ, and spend that first rounder on a Dline prospect. He'd be the only expensive player in the secondary, and our DLine would be much improved. It's called balancing the cap...you can't spend too much in one specific part of the team, except QB.

[Jimbo]

Taylor, Winslow, Udeze, Harris? Could you REALLY be unhappy if one of those guys was the pick? Maybe the smart move IS trading down but until we see what happens in FA, a mock is a mock is a mock.

[FLSKINSFAN]

I would be thrilled with this draft. I like Taylor as much as anybody. I think he will be a great player, But the Skins don't have the luxury of taking him with our Dline the way it is, and when you have a top notch young DE on the board like Udeze you have to take him. Just my :2cents:

[sjinhan]

umm i would be happy with this draft if it really went down like this...

Udeze, Jones, and a safety seems ok to me...more than anything i want 1 RB, 1 S and 1 DL coming out of first 3 rounds...

[The Consigliere]

In his final season at USC Udeze had 16.5 sacks, 24 TFL's, I believe five Forced Fumbles (can't get the stats right now) and more than 40 tackles. But he was also stunningly productive his previous two seasons, just look at his bio.

Please stop the insanity, comparing him to Shuler is astoundingly misinformed to put it mildly. Incidentally Brian Stevenson's Draft Notebook also tabs Udeze as our pick, and he's no johnny come lately, he's been doing this stuff for more than twenty years, and I've been relying on his service since '98. Udeze likely will be considered a top 5 to top 8 or thereabouts prospect by draft day, and if not, we'll either trade down, or not take him. I think there's a decent chance he'll be the pick, I hope so anyway.

2003: Udeze, one of the nation’s premier defensive ends, returns for his third year as a starter as a junior in 2003. He's a candidate for national and conference honors and helps form college football's top defensive line.

2002: Udeze, who became a proven young defensive end as just a sophomore, started for his second season in 2002. Overall in 2002 while starting all 13 games, he had 44 tackles, including 16 for losses of 65 yards (with 7.5 sacks for 45 yards), plus a team-best 6 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, 1 interception, 1 deflection and a blocked field goal. He shared the Pac-10 lead in forced fumbles (6). His 6 forced fumbles is a USC record. He made the 2002 All-Pac-10 second team and was USC’s Defensive Lineman of the Year. After the season, he had arthroscopic surgery to remove torn cartilage in his knee.

Against Auburn, 3 of his 5 tackles were for losses. He had a tackle for a loss at Colorado, 5 stops and a forced fumble (which USC recovered to set up a TD) at Kansas State and 4 tackles (2 for losses, with a sack) with a deflection and forced fumble against Oregon State. He had 5 tackles (with a sack) and forced a fumble at Washington State, then added 3 tackles against California, 5 tackles (including 4 for losses of 23 yards, with 2 sacks), a forced fumble and he blocked a field goal against Washington and a tackle at Oregon. He added 5 tackles and intercepted a pass that he batted into the air at the line of scrimmage at Stanford. Against Arizona State, he had 4 tackles, a fumble recovery (to set up a USC TD) and a forced fumble. All 4 of his tackles at UCLA were for losses (with 2 sacks) and he forced a fumble (which USC recovered to set up a field goal). He added a tackle against Iowa in the Orange Bowl.

2001: Udeze was a pleasant surprise as a redshirt freshman defensive end in 2001, starting 10 games (all but Oregon and Stanford). Overall in 2001 while appearing in all 12 games, he had 35 tackles, including 9 for losses of 43 yards (with 4 sacks for minus 25 yards), a fumble recovery, 3 forced fumbles and a deflection. He tied for third in the Pac-10 in forced fumbles (3). He made the 2001 The Sporting News Freshman All-American second team and The Sporting News Freshman All-Pac-10 first team. He won USC’s Co-Lifter Award. He was moved to end from tackle in 2001 fall camp.

In the San Jose State opener, he had 4 tackles (1 for a loss) in his Trojan debut. He added 7 stops (with a sack) against Kansas State. He had 3 tackles versus Stanford (with a fumble recovery), Washington (1 for a loss), Notre Dame (with a forced fumble) and California (with a sack and a forced fumble that USC returned for a TD) and 2 at Arizona (1 for a loss) and Oregon State (both were for losses, with a sack). Against UCLA, he had a tackle for a loss and forced a fumble that USC recovered. He had 6 tackles (including a 12-yard sack) against Utah.

[redblazer00]

If we are only going by number then how about Dave Ball?

I do agree that Udeze is a great prospect but isn't the best prospect on the D-Line and will never go number 5! Well I guess he could if some how he put up a 4.6 40 time at the combine.

Guys that are higher ranked at D-Line are:

1. Tommie Harris: who does run a mid-4.6 40 and has unbelievable potential. This guy would work at D-End or D-Tackle/

2. Will Smith: He is already more polished as an end and did have a good year this year. 47 tackles 20 TFL 11 sacks

3. Vince Wilfork: True stop gap guy. Bust plays up in the middle and can put pressure on the QB. Has been compared to Warren Sapp and I would rather have him then Sapp. Mainly age and upside.

[Ghost of]

redblazer

Hate to break it to you but your rankings are just wrong.

Wilfork is a weight-problem waiting to happen with short arms and little productivity this past year.

Will Smith is light and while a good player, took until his 4th year to just break 10 sacks. Before the most he had was 5.5 sacks. In only his second year, Udeze had 7.5 and six forced fumbles. Udeze is also a more powerful player.

I hate to see someone with so much potential lose his credibility in one post.

[Hogwash]

Everytime i see a mock draft, it's something different. I've neer seen it vary so much!

Last year we knew we'd have Jacobs

The year before, Ramsey was the most lkely

Before that we knew Smoot was out man.

I've been saying Taylor and I'm sticking by that!!

[HokieSkinsFan]

I love the Udeze pick in the 1st round. He's the player I want more than anyone in that round.

In the 2nd round, I'd rather see the Skins take the best available DT. In that mock, Darnell Dockett was still on the board when we picked. I'd much rather have him than any RB, even one as talented as Greg Jones.

The 3rd round pick makes no sense at all. We already have 2 strong safeties in our starting defensive backfield: Bowen and Ohalete. That's just what Will Allen is. He's another strong safety. IMO we should take the best available TE (who can also block well) in that round. I think Ben Hartsock would be a good pick.

[Trevor]

If we don't take Taylor at 5 we should trade down, maybe more than once, into the 20's. I've become convinced that I don't want any of the top 3 lineman(Udeze, Harris, Smith). I'd rather have a bunch of picks than one of those lineman. Just too much risk in them unless one drops out of the top 15.

[AJWatson3]

after just checking out the first round, that is a pretty good looking draft. i would prefer to take udeze a little lower, or taylor at 5, but as long as we draft defense (preferably DL) i am gonna be happy. i just don't want to see us with a round one RB or TE, it would sicken me. after the combines we should get a better feel about who is worthy of our #5 pick.

if the PATS end up with Steven Jackson, they will be my preseason super bowl team again.

only thing in round one i can think might be off is BUF going after will smith, although it is a solid pick. just think they need O and might be looking to trade down where they can get a WR or TE.

and i love us getting jones in the second.

shocking to see wilford (VT) go so high, but if he really does run a 4.4 at that size....

[fish]

Originally posted by Jimbo

Taylor, Winslow, Udeze, Harris? Could you REALLY be unhappy if one of those guys was the pick? Maybe the smart move IS trading down but until we see what happens in FA, a mock is a mock is a mock.

I agree 100% Jimbo. It seems as if there is plenty of talent at positions we need and don't need. It's good to have 2-4 QBs that could be taken by the 3rd rnd cuz that's 3 teams NOT taking DE, DL, S or RBs. If the Rayduhs take Fitzgerald, then all that means is that Taylor keeps moving down the line to us! Sliding down the board while picking up additional picks, saving money AND still getting players that can contribute all sounds good to me.

I'd prefer Udeze, ESPECIALLY if we can get him AND trade down to do it! But if we eneded up with Taylor - no worries by me! A Secondary of Champ, Smoot, Taylor and Bowen and MAN we're looking good back there. But we will STILL need to develop some pressure from the front 4! Gotta do it! We just GOTTA!

[Zen-like Todd]

Don't mind Skins26, Taylor is the only thing he posts about.

There are several other mocks that have the Skins taking Udeze at 5. GBNreport is one example.

http://www.gbnreport.com/2004projection.htm

[goldenster95]

GBN finally changed its draft projection for us, huh? Wonder why they didn't stick withus taking Steven Jackson? :laugh:

Good for them!

:applause:

Mock drafts are just that: mock. Can't place too much emphasis on them unless you're talking about some bigger time players. The fact GBN had us taking Jackson at #5 for the longest friggin' time speaks a lot to its merits.

[jbooma]

I would be happy with this draft only if we trade down to get Udeze, I just don't see him as the #5 and a lot of teams would trade up for Taylor

[JWB]

They have NE taking Maurice Clarett! Are they crazy? If he entered the draft, he would most likely be taken in the third round! Not the first! This would be even worse than McGahee last year!

[jbooma]

Originally posted by JWB

They have NE taking Maurice Clarett! Are they crazy? If he entered the draft, he would most likely be taken in the third round! Not the first! This would be even worse than McGahee last year!

You need to get some glasses, NE is drafting Stephen Jackson not Clarett

[Zen-like Todd]

Originally posted by goldenster95

GBN finally changed its draft projection for us, huh? Wonder why they didn't stick withus taking Steven Jackson? :laugh:

Good for them!

:applause:

Mock drafts are just that: mock. Can't place too much emphasis on them unless you're talking about some bigger time players. The fact GBN had us taking Jackson at #5 for the longest friggin' time speaks a lot to its merits.

Are you sure you're thinking of the same mock draft site? They had a mock with us taking Udeze back when were were projected to have the #11 overall pick in the draft back in December.

[mookie0720]

Originally posted by JWB

They have NE taking Maurice Clarett! Are they crazy? If he entered the draft, he would most likely be taken in the third round! Not the first! This would be even worse than McGahee last year!

Maurice Clarett would go much higher than the 3rd round- which is the reason he is fighting to come out. If he thought or knew he was going to go in the 3rd round then he would just go back to OSU after sitting out the season. Besides that if the kid runs a good 40 time he is a 1st rounder.

[goldenster95]

Originally posted by Zen-like Todd

Are you sure you're thinking of the same mock draft site? They had a mock with us taking Udeze back when were were projected to have the #11 overall pick in the draft back in December.

In looking back, GBN had us taking Roy Williams instead of a Stephen Jackson. That's still as, if not more, retarded than I thought.

Here's a link to a mock draft sampler a posted a while back.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47292&highlight=mock+draft