Zen-like Todd Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I was somewhat young at the time, but I don't remember this at all. http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E86%257E1924224,00.html This became the trademark of Elway's career, relishing the chance at a comeback. But his chance to do it in Denver nearly was snubbed out before the 1991 season.While sitting at a blackjack table in Lake Tahoe, Calif., Redskins running back Ernest Byner informed Elway, "We thought we had you." "And I'm like, 'What?"' Elway recalled. "You didn't hear about it?" Byner said. "Hear about what?" Elway asked. "It was a done deal," Byner answered. "You were coming to Washington." At the last moment, trade talks collapsed. Elway never went to Washington. He remained in Denver, where he piled up Hall-of- Fame numbers to rank second all time in three of the game's most significant passing categories - 51,475 passing yards, 7,250 attempts and 4,123 completions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Elway got better as he got older, partly because they improved the players around him in the second half of his caeer, he would have been awesome here IMO, but, it wasn't meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Now, Elway as a pocket passer was JUST the sort of guy Gibbs could have made serious hay with . Reading this rumor though just confirms what we all know. Jack Kent Cooke always went after those big names . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drex Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 With all due respect to Mark Rypien and his scintillating performance during the superbowl winning-1991 season, can you imagine John Elway and the impact he would have had on that team? One can only dream.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Yep. Sure did Remember seeing this on an Elway special on ESPN last year. If only........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Could you imagine how pissed off the people in Baltimore would have been, knowing that Elway didn't wanna come to play for the Colts, which in part lead to them leaving the city, and then have to watch him come back to DC to play for the Redskins and possible win a Super Bowl for them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 i never liked elway. he was just a fat whiteguy who could run a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidPennSkin Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Zen-like Todd This became the trademark of Elway's career, relishing the chance at a comeback. But his chance to do it in Denver nearly was snubbed out before the 1991 season. While sitting at a blackjack table in Lake Tahoe, Calif., Redskins running back Ernest Byner informed Elway, "We thought we had you." "And I'm like, 'What?"' Elway recalled. "You didn't hear about it?" Byner said. "Hear about what?" Elway asked. "It was a done deal," Byner answered. "You were coming to Washington." At the last moment, trade talks collapsed. Elway never went to Washington. He remained in Denver, where he piled up Hall-of- Fame numbers to rank second all time in three of the game's most significant passing categories - 51,475 passing yards, 7,250 attempts and 4,123 completions. I suspect that this never happened, Byner was probably pulling Elway's leg. In 1983 Elway had refused to play for the Baltimore Colts because they were on the east coast. The Colts drafted him with the number 1 pick in the 1983 draft, and he refused to play for them, saying that he would play baseball if he couldn't play for a western team closer to his home in California. So the colts traded him to denver rather than have the number one pick wasted on a guy who would never play for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 That was in 1983, by 1991 baseball wouldn't have been an option and after so many near misses with Denver I would not have been surprised if he felt a move to a "powerhouse" franchise could give him his Super Bowl dream. Hew got it in the end, but he must have thought around about 1991 it was never going to be!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Cleotis da Clown i never liked elway. he was just a fat whiteguy who could run a little bit. breathe to get my oxygen to the brain :shot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I was always amazed that Elway refused to play for the Colts. If you get drafted into the NFL you play where you are drafted. Not many people get the chance. 99% of the population would love to play pro football and they wouldn't give a damn where it was. I guess it worked out for him, but I would still hold a grudge if I were a Colts fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Norv would found a way to eff it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidPennSkin Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by OrangeSkin I was always amazed that Elway refused to play for the Colts. If you get drafted into the NFL you play where you are drafted. Not many people get the chance. 99% of the population would love to play pro football and they wouldn't give a damn where it was. I guess it worked out for him, but I would still hold a grudge if I were a Colts fan. In his HOF press conference today, Elway said that his refusal to go to Baltimore wasn't because he didn't want to play on the east coast, but rather that he didn't want to play for a losing team. Baltimore was the worst team in the league that year, that's why they had the #1 pick. That defeats the league's policy that the worst teams get the first picks. I think that if he had said then what he said today, the league would have been all over him. The top picks every year probably feel the same way. I lost a lot of respect for him when he refused to play for the Colts in 1983, and what he said today made him even more of a turkey in my eyes. I'm sorry he made the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Certainly, the Redskins of the mid-nineties lacked a lot more than just a QB. The team had fundamental problems EVERYWHERE, save corner (or at least Green's Corner), and at RB (save in '98 when Allen was finally done and we had no decent replacement that we knew of). The OL was pretty bad, the DL stunk, the LB's weren't all that great, the WR's stunk, Elway could have perhaps made maybe '92 and '93 a bit different but other than that I don't see much different. Other than Elways perhaps saving Petitbone's job in '93 which would have prevented us from developing the virulent plague known as Norvitus. What were we trading for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turdfurguson Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Cleotis da Clown i never liked elway. he was just a fat whiteguy who could run a little bit. You an idiot he is the only QB to go to 5 Superbowls.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turdfurguson Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by OrangeSkin I was always amazed that Elway refused to play for the Colts. If you get drafted into the NFL you play where you are drafted. Not many people get the chance. 99% of the population would love to play pro football and they wouldn't give a damn where it was. I guess it worked out for him, but I would still hold a grudge if I were a Colts fan. Agreed you play for the team that drafts you period. Or you don't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_good_brotha Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by turdfurguson You an idiot he is the only QB to go to 5 Superbowls.... Yeah and how many did he actually win? Only 2 and that was because of the weak opponents he faced. He couldn't win against real competition. Besides Terrell Davis carried them to those 2 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Zen-like Todd I was somewhat young at the time, but I don't remember this at all. http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E86%257E1924224,00.html The article says that Denver played in more Superbowls than any besides Dallas. I thought Denver played in 5 Superbowls. Elway played in 4 of them. The Raiders have played in 5 Superbowls also. Can anyone confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Broncos have played in 6 Super Bowl, 5 with Elway as Qb, the other was in 77/78 when they were beaten by the Pokes, Craig Morton was the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by NavyDave Norv would found a way to eff it up But Dave, who is to say that with a QB like Elway in DC that Joe Gibbs would have retired in 1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I wouldn't have traded that '91 Super Bowl for Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I don't think he retired because he smelled some rot in the foundation, from everything I've read, it seems to be that he retired so he could spend more time w/his family, watch his son at Stanford play, and stop working 18-20 hour days. However the potential ramifications of the Elway trade could have been astounding, imagine a nineties without Norv. How beautiful would that have been? W/petitbone in command and Elway at QB the '93 squad might not have folded as it did. Still, like my old college roomie used to say, "yeahd, and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle." It's fun to play the "if" game, but in the end, the trade didn't go down, and we entered Falcons/Saints/Bucs phase of our existence and the nineties then began to feel like someone tossed us all into a freaking septic tan and locked the door to the facility. Now, someone's opened the door, and the smell may be foul, but Gibbs is the one holding the water hose! How's that for a revolting analogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Smellway's primadona act is the reason I've always hated him. It was a real downer to see him finally get a Super Bowl ring at the end of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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