JJredskins00 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Same old sad Andy...this is like a holiday for me every year watching them cry during the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talent Wasted at a Desk Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 what'd he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I thought that he was gonna cry :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Wouldn't you?:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 It looked to me that he threw in the towel once McNabb went out. It's really pathetic to see a coach put so much stock into a player that he would think that the game and season is over if he were to get hurt. It shows that the media has infect his brain saying that McNabb is the 2nd greatest player to ever lace up cleats, other than Micheal Vick of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 What ever happened to AJ Feeley anyway. He played pretty well when Mcscabb and koy boy were out last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broohaha Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 the one person on the eagles i feel bad for is andy reid. the guy is a total class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Hogwash It looked to me that he threw in the towel once McNabb went out. Threw in the towel? My God, I don't know what game some of you were watching. Detmer took the team right down the field, converted a 4th down and was within 10 yards of making it a 14-10 game with 5 minutes left. That's hardly giving up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Poor Play calling and clock management... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 The funny thing is... Earlier in the year i was saying that our team was effect by the loss of Patrick Ramsey, and I felt we were atleast a 500 team with him in the games. All the crow fans came over and said... last year when mcnabb went down they still won with their 2 backups, and they could do fine without mcnabb. Now they can't win without him? stupid crows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Let me ask you this Blazer, how would you feel if Jim Johnson was your Head Coach next year? What if he brought in an Offensive guy to create an offense for McNabb and not the shambles that Reid runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Hogwash Poor Play calling and clock management... Where? They hurried to the line, they ran twice effectively, once not so. They got an offensive pass interference penalty and overcame it, including the unwise run. They were in position to be in the game for one last drive until Staley stretched his route and Detmer got pressured. If Staley runs it right, he gets a 5 yard completion and the Eagles have a chance at a TD or at least a FG for a 14-6 game. The defense stuffed Carolina on 4 plays and the offense got the ball again. From my recollection, they ran the ball once (maybe twice) in the final 7 minutes when they shouldn't have. Other than that, the ball was going down field and they were moving the ball effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Mcnabb is in the wrong system, the wco is holding back Mcnabb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Bufford Redux Let me ask you this Blazer, how would you feel if Jim Johnson was your Head Coach next year? What if he brought in an Offensive guy to create an offense for McNabb and not the shambles that Reid runs? Bufford, I wouldn't really like it. I just get the feeling that Johnson is meant to be a career assistant. He excels at his job as DC. I do believe in the Peter Principle and Johnson as HC would put him over the top in my opinion. As to Reid's WCO offense: it's what we're stuck with. It does work as long as McNabb has other playmakers besides himself. Throw in Westbrook and it's a different game yesterday. He scores on Staley's drop in the first qtr. Add in a real WR, and the Eagles offense becomes formidable next season. McNabb at QB. Buckhalter/Westbrook at RB LJ Smith in the slot at TE Mitchell at slot A real WR. Thrash or Pinkston at #2 A decent, though not great O-line That's not a bad offense. McNabb, Westbrook and a real WR can score from anywhere. Smith/Mitchell provide ball control, WCO passing. Westbrook/Buckhalter provide flexibility at RB, both on the ground and through the air (WCO). Westbrook can be split out for a different look. It's not Rice-Taylor-Craig, but those guys will put up points in spite of King Andy. I'd still prefer a more down the field passing attack with a Moss-type WR, but I have to be realistic. The Eagles will never do it. They'll pick up a journeyman and proclaim the problem is solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Reid can't adjust to the talent on his team, and it's killing them. That, combined with the reluctance to bring in a top FA WR means that they're no better than second best against a tough opponent who like them has reached the NFC Championship Game. Their window of opportunity may be closed now given the changes in the division. You know that neither the Cowboys nor the Redskins are going to have uneventful offseasons, and the Giants won't be far behind before Coughlin's system is in place and producing. The division has gotten tougher around the Eagles and yet they've stood pat and still have nothing to show for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 does it really matter? the pats would embarass the eagles. to be honest i think loosing in the NFC championship may have saved them from being embarassed in the superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkatz Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Thats a pretty good post redman. The Eagles have a great front office but they seem to soley focus on improving the defense. Andy Reid loves to tweak his offense and adjust at halftime and put in this defense. But after a third straight championship loss I think it is time he realizes he needs some offensive firepower and cannot win without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Nah, I'm not gonna go in there and blame Andy Reid. Thats too easy. The eagles were definately in this game. If not for those drops a lot of their drives are not killed. If not for those picks, they score a lot more points. What happened is that McNabb got hit that one time and couldn't throw right after that and that jus killed his game. What I was thinking the moment that Troy Aikman said that he's gonna have problems throwing on the run, is that he is no longer the best QB on the team. McNabb could only be good as a pocket passer, which he is not. So they should have put in Koy Detmer then. But its all in vain now as they've lost a third time. Dare I say Ha Ha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Kao Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I watched most of the game, and I agree with blakman211. McNabb should have been pulled sooner... a LOT sooner. That and Philly's lack of firepower at WR doomed them. They have a collection of guys who could all fill the role of a 3rd, 4th, or 5th wideout, but not really anyone who can be a legitmate #1 or #2. Well, Westbrook is good, but he was injured and not playing... they need more depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Pinkston is the best WR on the team, and he made an absolutely horrible and inexcusable mistake on that INT. He's no better than a #2 WR. Thrash is no better than a #3, and Mitchell sometimes looks like a #2 and sometimes like a #3. They need a legit WR threat, but they continue to refuse to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Blazers21 I do believe in the Peter Principle and Johnson as HC would put him over the top in my opinion. Who or what is "The Peter Principle?" :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by VT Shockoe Joe Who or what is "The Peter Principle?" :paranoid: I was wondering that myself. Maybe he's not hung like Reid is . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by VT Shockoe Joe Who or what is "The Peter Principle?" :paranoid: http://www.bartleby.com/61/4/P0220400.html From Webster's: "The theory that employees within an organization will advance to their highest level of competence and then be promoted to and remain at a level at which they are incompetent." There was a book written about this in the '60s or '70s. Johnson is at his highest level of competence as a DC. If Reid leaves and he's promoted to head coach or leaves and gets a head coaching job elsewhere he will move to a level where he is incompetent. This is just my opinion, of course, but you can see it all around the league. Norv Turner anyone? Richie Petibone? Fortunately, in the NFL, you don't remain at your incompetent level for too long, and you have a chance to step back to your area of expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Your's have principles?? I've always considered mine amoral at best. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Tarhog Your's have principles?? I've always considered mine amoral at best. :laugh: Trying to add some intelligent conversation to this board and you Redskins fans just bring it down to adolescent levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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