Fan4life Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Okay all, I have a curiousity that wont go away. If we cannot trade or get more picks with our #5. And we are stuck there. The way JG loves character players. How can we past on 3 talented WR with great character. Well 2 of them at least. with R Williams and Fitzgerald . Both are going to be studs. how can we past on them? NOt to mention the big ass M Williams from USC. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Another person that sees the light Actually though Williams can't come out yet and has not plans too. USC is going to be a beast again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 I mean really, its not like its Mike Westbroke or Jester Howard ya know. At least 2 of the WR in the top 10 picks are studs. You can't ignore that. I dont know...just seems hard to past for JG staff. They like character for sure. And those 2 are decent people and Alot of talent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Fan4life They like character for sure. And that is what Fitzgerald is, he is very well grounded with someone with his talent, sort of like the anti-Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 We have a talented group of wide outs as it is. we need defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Hogwash We have a talented group of wide outs as it is. we need defense. THANK U!!! i can't believe u people are even considering a wr when its our defense that totally sucked!!! Gardener had a bad year because he was prett much allowed to do whatever he wanted under Spurrier's careless reign. He had a thousand yard season jus a season ago, and trust me, if there's anyone that can get him to play to his potential, its Joe Gibbs. Draft Sean Taylor, there are NO, i repeat, NO d-linemen in this draft worth a 5th overall pick. We know Taylor is gonna be a beast, and we need all the headhunting machines we can get, cuz the NFC East is gonna be stacked! Black and Blue, hardnose, warzone football baby! forget Finesee! did u see that hit Rodney Harrison put on Brandon Stokley in the AFC champ game! With a better d-line and a safety like that we'll be top-5 d at the least for years to come!!!! ---------------------------------------------- 0-16, 16-0, skins fan till i die!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunner Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Absoutely, Draft Taylor, look for some D lineman. We desperately need to address our D. See Pats and Panthers!!! Offense sells tix, DEFENSE wins championships! :hammer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Fan4life Okay all, I have a curiousity that wont go away. If we cannot trade or get more picks with our #5. And we are stuck there. The way JG loves character players. How can we past on 3 talented WR with great character. Well 2 of them at least. with R Williams and Fitzgerald . Both are going to be studs. how can we past on them? NOt to mention the big ass M Williams from USC. thoughts? How can we pass on them?? Easy, because we don't need them. Our WRs are probably THE ONLY unit that really needs no tinkering. Look I agree with you guys in that those WRs you mentioned ARE studs on and off the field, no argument here but we just have too many other needs. How many gams did we loose in the 4th qtr? We have NO pressure from the from 4. Did you watch the games this and last weekend? MAN I wish we could have a DL as good as Carolina! Apparently we're gonna pay Champ. To me, that is just flushing money down the drain if we don't upgrade the DL. We're wasting money and LaVar's potential by not providing him a decent DL in front of him! There is nothing wrong with our WRs. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Simple as that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 I just have this nightmare of what happen to R MOss back when he was passed on. Look what he did to all those teams that thought he wasnt a stud. One of those WR will make some team REAL happy! why not US?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Why not us? Because we don't need a wide receiver, that's why. We need to draft defensively... My vote goes to 1) Taylor, 2) Udeze, 3) Wilfork. Does everyone keep forgetting we have Coles? Gardner is an ok #2 and McCants and Jacobs are up and comers... I love Fitzgerald, but we just don't need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by KDawg Why not us? Because we don't need a wide receiver, that's why. So if Moss was available and we had Gardner and McCants you would pass?? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Yes... I would... not enough balls to go to Coles and Moss, is there? One of them would want to leave when their contract was up, or perhaps even before then. No thanks. The Vikings can keep Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by KDawg Yes... I would... not enough balls to go to Coles and Moss, is there? One of them would want to leave when their contract was up, or perhaps even before than. No thanks. The Vikings can keep Moss. You have both of them for over 5 years and I guess you don't remember what made the past Gibbs teams do you??? Monk, Clark, Sanders, Fun Bunch, etc...... Gibbs loves to stretch the field, and with Fitzgerald and Coles, who are you going to leave one on one?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by KDawg Yes... I would... not enough balls to go to Coles and Moss, is there? One of them would want to leave when their contract was up, or perhaps even before then. No thanks. The Vikings can keep Moss. I just think with the WAY JG is running his team. There will be less selfishness. And more of a team game. And It just be REAL nice to get a stud across from L Coles. There are sooooo many DL and DT avail through the 1st and 2nd round. And we can still get a Defensive player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 We need Taylor in our D Backfield, so we can have a Roy Williams, or John Lynch type of Jack-Hammer Safety. We can fix or D line with free agents, Kearse, Sapp, Smith, those kind of guys. All we really need is 2 D Linemen. Noble and Wynn are good, so if we ger another DE and DT we should be set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Hogwash We need Taylor in our D Backfield, so we can have a Roy Williams, or John Lynch type of Jack-Hammer Safety. We can fix or D line with free agents, Kearse, Sapp, Smith, those kind of guys. All we really need is 2 D Linemen. Noble and Wynn are good, so if we ger another DE and DT we should be set! well, I think Bowens and Iffy are damn decent players. Who just been moving in ando ut of different defensive scheme. with the consistency of Greg Williams and his style. you'll be suprise how affective those 2 will be next yr. thats why I dont think we are in trouble at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 jbooma, yes, I would pass on Randy Moss. BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED HIM. We need defense. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 jbooma, I remember exactly how it was built... Like it or not, Clark and Sanders or even Brown weren't considered to be "star" receivers, they were stars, but not alot of people considered them to be. They didn't have egos... Todays wide receivers other than Marvin Harrison are about as humble as Eagle fans after choking three years in a row... In other words, they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Taylor is better than Bowen IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 yes we need defense, and yes we need a safety, but if we draft fitzgerald, imagine coles, larry and mccants. then take a breath, calm down, and imagine what kind of safety we could have in a trade for gardner. think about it. there are only a handfull of safeties out there you could trade for a WR like gardner, but there are a ton of WR's out there you can trade for a good safety. its like supply and demand. you have to go with the BPA because talent is in demand. every team needs talent, and yet you want to neglect the most talented player because you don't need him? that's like passing up on a hummer for a motorcycle, because you already have an explorer. but how many motorcycles could you get if you traded in the explorer? with a top five pick you have to draft the BPA no matter what position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Err, what? No one is going to take Rod Gardner for a safety... especially one better than what we got now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 are you serious? sure we can't trade for a guy like roy williams, but we could get a solid safety and TE for a WR like gardner. and if not that, then we could package gardner with something else to fill another need like, RB (henry). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I guess I could ask you the same question... Are you serious? the Henry trade would be somewhat realistic, but a WR for a safety? Very doubtful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talent Wasted at a Desk Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by Hogwash All we really need is 2 D Linemen. Noble and Wynn are good, so if we ger another DE and DT we should be set! ---------- ...I agree that DL deserves the most attention, but I'm interested in the Noble comment. Is he healthy? When he went down, I thought the consensus was that he would retire. Besides, even if he can play, I wouldn't want to go to war next fall without solid DT backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRock Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Jeez...I'm debating wether to take taylor or not because we need so much help on the dline..but my goodness. OFFENSE? :doh: Only player i'll take on offense is drop down some spots and take kevin johnson or steve jackson.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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