Skyward72 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Rather then take the take the #5 pick, if we trade down, what can we expect to get? I know there are a couple of teams with mulitple #1 picks like the Pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 maybe... lez c after combine. that is wut is gonna be important. we have to see if first-round talent we are targeting slips. for example if randy starks, a mid-round pick, now slips to the second then that is a reason not to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I don't think so, this is a draft with some truly elite talent in it and so I think you stay at #5 and hope to land a perpetual Pro Bowler, if it was a year in which there is no real difference between the top 10 and the top 25 then I think you look at trading down but thats not the case this year, at least I don't think it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I disagree, there are a couple of real good defenders (Udeze & taylor) who could really help the squad. Both of these guys will carry top 5 grades. IMO, if we trade down, we can get 2 servicebale players, but not different makers. Now if both Udeze and taylor are gone, I would welcome a trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I would stay at the 5 position for Taylor and Taylor only. I just don't think Winslow is a good enough blocker for Joe's scheme. Taylor will make an immediate impact. Sorry Iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauss Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I would stay at 5 and take a chance of getting a playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I dont see safety being that important with this coaching staff. Gibbs has never had all pro type safety usually smart and hard hitting. I think were going D-linemen or trade down but not a safety but I do like Taylor and his playmaking ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I say trade to New Orleans for the whole draft and a 1st rounder next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Where's Ditka when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 the pats are the only team with multiple 1rd picks this year. and they are too late. it's not worth trading for one this year and next, cuz you never know what you'll be getting next year, and its almost certain it won't be a top 5 pick. we have to stay at five and pick the BPA no matter who that person is. taylor if all goes according to plans, fitzgerald, one of those tackles (iowa, arkansas) and yes even eli if he slips to us. we have to draft the BPA with a #5 pick. sure we don't need eli or the tackles, but imagine how flexible we would be if we did, trade wise, cap wise, and FA. I love ramsey as much as the next guy, but imagine what kind of saftey and then some, you would get if you traded him. or if we traded samuels, not only would we have some quality players, but the rookie is sure to make alot less then samuels and that would open us up in FA. same theory with gardner. sure taylor is what we need and he may be a stud, but going with a BPA is gonna give us 1. a rookie stud 2. fill alot more of our needs through trade and 3. almost certainly free up alot of cap room to sign more studs in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Rumor has it that Ditka is now a wig model. If the scouts have found a few jems expected to go in the later rounds then I'd take the risk and trade out of the 5th pick in the draft to stockpile picks in the later rounds. Not that much of a risk really. Plenty of high picks have been busts so may as well increase your odds of getting a decent player by adding picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Hmm trade a Mercedez for a Saturn and a Yugo with a really good paint job? Uh No. Gibbs is an offensive minded guy which is ok but it is time we address the defense. The philly offense has nothing to do with them being in 3 straight NFC championship games as much as the defense. And there is not a dawkins type on our team. It is not that difficult to fix the TE and running back situation in free agency. And grab a couple of D linemen Enough of the big splash on offense other wise don't cry when we have a KC/ Denver moment when the defense cant make stops when they need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Glory Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Udeze is the # 5 pick. Get used to it gentlemen. Sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer. Udeze is the obvious answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_good_brotha Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Originally posted by tex Rumor has it that Ditka is now a wig model. I thought he was a spokesperson for Viagra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I would like Udeze to be a Redskin we need a D linemen more then a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Originally posted by a_good_brotha I thought he was a spokesperson for Viagra. It's Evitra. And he looks like he's happy with his new job. Just look at the smile on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 We have one safety under contract. Who should we resign? Terrell or Iffy? And are we really comfortable with our remaing Safety who take the most horrible angles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I'm thinking that there is somebody very attractive to the Patriots come draft day at that 5 slot, maybe a Reggie Williams, a Roy Williams, or a Steven Jackson. What we could hope for is a trade down and pick up a Randy Starks or a Tubbs for DT, and hope that Jones slips to the bottom of the round. Plus, maybe we could wiggle a decent player out of the Pats: 2 1st's and say Dan Klecko or Asante Samuel for the opportunity to pick somebody your organization (talking about the Pats) is really high on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSkipper Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Originally posted by earl the pats are the only team with multiple 1rd picks this year. and they are too late. I ran the numbers based and found that the only teams that could offer us multiple picks for our #5 are...................... The JETS and the PATS. The Jets could give us their 1st #13, 2nd #45, and 5th #140 for our #5. The Pats could give us their two first rounders #21 and #32 and their 2nd #52. The only players probably worthy of a move up are Fitzgerald/Roy Williams (whoever is available), Manning or Roethesburger (if available) or a left tackle. The Pats don't really need much, so I don't see them moving up. But the Jets, they need a WR to replace Coles. Conway didn't cut it and Chrebet is done. Wouldn't it be great if we could reunite with old Terry Bradway in NY for a draft day trade. They get Roy Williams the WR from Texas and we end up with the twelfth pick, and two second rounders. Now that could help fill out our Defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Originally posted by a_good_brotha I thought he was a spokesperson for Viagra. I've heard that. Guess he needs the work.:rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey T Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Original quote by NavyDave:Hmm trade a Mercedez for a Saturn and a Yugo with a really good paint job? :rotflmao: I agree with the analogy. Draft the best BPA for need. Our most immediate need is on the D side, ergo Taylor is the BPA for our need. Winslow may be a luxury we cannot afford. A lot of this will play out after the combines. Let's hope we can address some of our DL needs during the FA period, then after seasonal cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 BPA doesn't take into account need, so you can't draft BPA for need. You would only be drafting BPA, no matter what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Originally posted by TheSkipper I ran the numbers based and found that the only teams that could offer us multiple picks for our #5 are...................... The JETS and the PATS. The Jets could give us their 1st #13, 2nd #45, and 5th #140 for our #5. The Pats could give us their two first rounders #21 and #32 and their 2nd #52. The only players probably worthy of a move up are Fitzgerald/Roy Williams (whoever is available), Manning or Roethesburger (if available) or a left tackle. The Pats don't really need much, so I don't see them moving up. But the Jets, they need a WR to replace Coles. Conway didn't cut it and Chrebet is done. Wouldn't it be great if we could reunite with old Terry Bradway in NY for a draft day trade. They get Roy Williams the WR from Texas and we end up with the twelfth pick, and two second rounders. Now that could help fill out our Defense! Nothing says all the picks we could possibly get for the 5th pick in this years draft have to come this year. A high first rounder next year works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Bell Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 i say trade down a few spots ( maybe the falcons or texans who both seem to want taylor), get udeze , then in the second round get either michael turner or greg jones and then chad lavalais from the trade down, hes got great work ethic, hes a good person ( know this from his espn story he had championship week), and hed be a great motor to have in the trenches... hed be a good skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor42 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I would rather have two first rounders for the #5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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