Riggo-toni Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Assuming McCants doesn't get swept away by a big offer elsewhere a la Derrius, who will have a better year in 04 under Saint Joe, Rod or DMac? I'll bet dollars to donuts(even though I'm diabetic:silly: ) that DMac will have more TDs, but it remains to be seen how he'd fare if he were always going against the #2 CB instead of the nickel back. "Darkerian" has better hands, almost as much speed, and better instincts. I think the real question is can he get initial separation quickly enough to be a quality #2 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I think I would choose darnerian over garder, just seems to have just a little more talent in his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 DMac will have a better year; he seems to get open a bit better and he has the ability to make the circus catches. That said, McCants also does his work from the slot, which gives him more room to work with. If he's the #2 receiver, he may find himself in a different environment. Either way, it's based on who wants to work harder; and I see that title going to McCants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 If Rod can get back to his 2002 form, then McCants will be playing for a #3 position with Jacobs. Gardner has all the tools to be a "Monk" type of player in Gibbs' ofense. If he doesnt live up to his potential, he should be cut enxt year and Mccants or Jacobs can be the #2 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sippin2020 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Not that Rod is that much better, but DMac has no separation ability. He's great in the back of the endzone and that's it. Rod proved that he could be a good player in this league 2 years ago. 1,006 yards I believe. Not too shabby. He was obviously overshadowed by Coles this year, but I think Gibbs will find a way to utilize him to his fullest potential. That being said I think Gibbs will help DMac tremendously as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Something else to consider... Given the frequency of the singleback formation in Gibbs' offense..the slot reciever stands to have a very big year. That said, unless he is moved to the #2 WR, McCants, or whoever runs the slot, will have a solid year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 We could easily be in a 3 receiver set which means they both could start. I think Gardner would have good numbers but McCants also it's like who do you take Monk or Clark? One strengths the field the other gets the tough yards over the middle. Gardner should get a lot of passes next year and not get lost in the shuffle like he did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I haven't seen mcCants getas many penalties or drop as many balls as Gardner. I dont think that stands good for Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Gardner will have the better year. He is simply the better receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCS:BraveCaringSoul Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I'm a Mac guy. PC's suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Originally posted by sippin2020 Not that Rod is that much better, but DMac has no separation ability. He's great in the back of the endzone and that's it. Rod proved that he could be a good player in this league 2 years ago. 1,006 yards I believe. Not too shabby. He was obviously overshadowed by Coles this year, but I think Gibbs will find a way to utilize him to his fullest potential. That being said I think Gibbs will help DMac tremendously as well. actually he runs 4.4s. And just looks slow because of his long strides. similiar to moss and owens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I like Big Macs, but not as much as this guy does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I love DMac and hope we hold on to all 4 (Coles, Gardner, DMac, and Jacobs) WRs. I would like to see us move them all around so all of them have the opportunity to be in the slot and face favorable matchups. I think that McCants definitely benefitted from being the #3 guy this past season. If we could get Gardner some snaps from that position, I have no doubt he could be just as effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 With JG running the show, I wouldnt be suprise if you see the new Millenium of the Posse! And He will bring out the best out of DMac and Gardner. They just never had any motivators or consistency in any system. we'll be suprise for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Gardner has a 70 plus 1000 yard plus season McCants had 27 for 320 in a pass happy offense their is no compairing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Gardner is faster and stronger, not to mention much more experience. But, I think McCants is a better 3rd WR than Gardner is a 2nd WR, if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanathos19 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Everything considered, Darnerian is better. He's worth less that Rod, catches more TD's, and seems to be more consistent. As has been mentioned, it'll be interestign to see how he will fare against a #2 corner all season, as compared to a LB or a nickel back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 With the vote so close, I'm hoping we get a lot of production out of BOTH guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Darnerian so far is a one-trick pony. He's virtually worthless to us outside the red zone. I attribute that to his relative lack of speed and athleticism when compared to Rod. Not to say he can't improve because he is still quite raw, but he's looking an awful lot like Derrius II right now. Rod has more talent; whether he taps into all of it remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 gardner should get more touches, but mccants could get more TD's coming from the slot. i think if we run the 3 wr set, mccants and jacobs will alternate the slot depending on the opponent and the situation. with two big guys, two speedsters, and 2 big speedsters (patrick johnson, cliff russell) joe gibbs has alot of versatility with his wide outs. i do expect him to cut one guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 D Mac isn't worthless he makes first down catches also and when gardner rode the bench he wasnt that bad either. Gardner has visions of a L Coles contract dancin in his head. D Mac can be resigned to a decent midlevel contract plus with him growin up a skins fan and from the area I see him not being that difficult to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 When Gardner rode the bench, DMac was invisible. I remember that game, and I remember wondering where the both of them were doing while Coles was the only reciever getting open. Gardner is still the better reciever among the two. McCants works hard, and he even Smoot has noticed his development over the season. Yet Gardner is still faster, stronger, and better at catching deep passes down the field. McCants may have better hands, yet I've seen him drop his fair share as well. The real question should be, will Jacobs come in and usurp the #2 spot from both of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Even Spurrier who is notorious for switching WRs never benched Gardner in favor of McCants. McCants reminds me of Darrius Thompson, everyone on the board loved the underdog, but when he went away it became clear he really wasnt that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Not that Rod is that much better, but DMac has no separation ability. Neither did Monk. As a possession receiver, it's more important to be able to run post-catch. At this stage, I think Gardner's better at it. He runs hard, like a RB. McCants got better hands right now, though. I think Gardner will be more consistent under Gibbs than he was under Spurrier, so I think the opportunity is there for him to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkatz Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I really dont see how the two are comparable. The only thing similar about their stats are TD's and still Gardner is better. Rod Gardner has only gone up against #1 and #2 corners while McCants has gone against nicke backs. In starting duty Spurriers first year McCants sputtered while Gardner faced doubles teams constantly and put together a fine year. I am actually very big on Darnerian, I love the guy! But Gardner is a better ball player and has proven himself by having three SOLID (not great by anymeans but solid) years. If he regains the form he had his sophmore year Gardner could be the best #2 WR in the game. Remember the one-two punch we had with Westbrook and Connel that one year? Haha, good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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