Fox8: Watching porn now requires age verification in Louisiana because of new law. Adult sites pull out (😏) of Virginia due to new law.

[Destino]

27 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

If the website wants to be law compliant they can block connections from tor and from known proxy addresses.

 

The security issue with trusting a porn site is legitimate, but at the same time the local sex shop asks for ID, why shouldn’t the online one do that as well.

It’s unacceptable that porn companies are knowingly making toms of money from an audience of minors.  We wouldn’t let a strip club operate with kids in the audience and respond with, “we’re not going to violate are customers privacy by checking IDs!  Their parents should stop them from wandering in here.”  It’s obvious something needs to be done.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

2 hours ago, Destino said:

It’s unacceptable that porn companies are knowingly making toms of money from an audience of minors.  We wouldn’t let a strip club operate with kids in the audience and respond with, “we’re not going to violate are customers privacy by checking IDs!  Their parents should stop them from wandering in here.”  It’s obvious something needs to be done.

 

That's because it's insanely easy for a strip club to determine age without causing an even bigger mess than if they didn't determine age. Most people are completely fine with keeping anyone under 18 from accessing porn, but the ways of doing so can't ignore everything else in service of that goal.

 

[tshile]

Imagine if instead all of this effort, time, and money was spent on actual sexual exploitation of minors. 

[The Sisko]

1 hour ago, tshile said:

Imagine if instead all of this effort, time, and money was spent on actual sexual exploitation of minors. 

A lot more Republicans could get their freak on while bleating about Dems grooming and molesting kids.

 

Oh wait, I think you might have meant something different.😑

[Destino]

1 hour ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

That's because it's insanely easy for a strip club to determine age without causing an even bigger mess than if they didn't determine age. Most people are completely fine with keeping anyone under 18 from accessing porn, but the ways of doing so can't ignore everything else in service of that goal.

 

We can get to the moon, we can solve this.  And to be clear adults being able to access free porn is not a priority when the cost of such a service is kids being raised on ubiquitous porn.  It’s not an essential service.  For the vast majority of time porn has existed, it had a price tag.  We can just go back to that if age verification proves too cumbersome.  Stuff all of it behind a paywall.

[Destino]

1 hour ago, tshile said:

Imagine if instead all of this effort, time, and money was spent on actual sexual exploitation of minors. 

I think the reason we don’t really go after child sex abuse and sex trafficking (and human trafficking in general) all that heavily is because there’s no money to recover,  it’s all cost and no payday.  The DEA is constantly chasing money, and confiscating it, but if a similar sized agency devoted itself to ending what essentially amount to modern slavery, you’d end up with a lot of powerful people embarrassed and no payday.  No other reason makes sense to me because the crimes shock the conscience but the law enforcement response (and not just in the US) is minimal.  
 

if human traffickers start using their slaves to steal from Wall Street…. They’d announce a new glittering human trafficking enforcement agency immediately.

[purbeast]

8 hours ago, tshile said:

Imagine if instead all of this effort, time, and money was spent on actual sexual exploitation of minors. 

A lot of money is spent on it.

 

On a PERFECT segue, I recently found out that Chris Hansen has another "To Catch a Predator" show but it isn't called that.  It's called Takedown and it's on some channel called Tru Blu.  You can find a lot of full episodes on youtube and they are just as great as they were back in the day, and probably better now because of better technology and police interviews.  And many of the people know who he is too since they've seen his show back in the day.

 

 

[The Sisko]

10 hours ago, Destino said:

I think the reason we don’t really go after child sex abuse and sex trafficking (and human trafficking in general) all that heavily is because there’s no money to recover,  it’s all cost and no payday.  The DEA is constantly chasing money, and confiscating it, but if a similar sized agency devoted itself to ending what essentially amount to modern slavery, you’d end up with a lot of powerful people embarrassed and no payday.  No other reason makes sense to me because the crimes shock the conscience but the law enforcement response (and not just in the US) is minimal.  
 

if human traffickers start using their slaves to steal from Wall Street…. They’d announce a new glittering human trafficking enforcement agency immediately.

There's quite a bit of money in human trafficking. It's the second most profitable criminal enterprise in the U.S. Now, the part about some powerful people getting embarrassed makes a bit more sense. The only thing about that is, unless you're a moron like the former Rapist in-Chief, if you've got immense money and power, you're not going to mass market suppliers. You've got a savvy, well-connected curator of the top-of-the-line victims for you to exploit. Think Epstein. So, most of the people likely to be embarrassed by this are local, maybe state-level politicians, religious leaders, well-to-do professionals, and small to medium-sized business owners. Those folks make enough to pay well for it, so there are enough of their suppliers that make enough money for it to be "profitable" for the DEA.

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

[mcsluggo]

am i the only one that has porn WAY down the list of things that i care about kids running into ? (on the internet and elsewhere) 

[mcsluggo]

if you are too inept and/or lazy to  monitor your own kids use of the internet at home....  and the thing that worries you is that they will  will see boobs after navigating past 8chan and neonazis and chat rooms with dudes that are basically a trenchcoat filled with spiders... then you are an idiot.

 

[Renegade7]

46 minutes ago, mcsluggo said:

am i the only one that has porn WAY down the list of things that i care about kids running into ? (on the internet and elsewhere) 

 

I know what you mean, even if others don't like the wording of it...there are far worse things out there then porn...

Edited May 5, 2023 by Renegade7

[Renegade7]

On 5/3/2023 at 1:08 AM, Destino said:

I think the reason we don’t really go after child sex abuse and sex trafficking (and human trafficking in general) all that heavily is because there’s no money to recover,  it’s all cost and no payday.  The DEA is constantly chasing money, and confiscating it, but if a similar sized agency devoted itself to ending what essentially amount to modern slavery, you’d end up with a lot of powerful people embarrassed and no payday.  No other reason makes sense to me because the crimes shock the conscience but the law enforcement response (and not just in the US) is minimal.  
 

if human traffickers start using their slaves to steal from Wall Street…. They’d announce a new glittering human trafficking enforcement agency immediately.

 

My suspicsion has continued to be if we put the resources into catching everyone taking advantage of child sex abuse and sex trafficking, it would gore a crater out of the top levels of our society...think of how many people wouldn't fly out of JFK if they knew how many terrorist threats the government has stopped over the years...that level of "if we really knew, what would happen"...

 

The closest we got to that was Epstein, who clearly didn't kill himself, and they went after his acomplice instead of everyone who had links to make sure they didn't break any laws themselves.

 

There are numbers to suggest there are more slaves now then at any point in human history, @The Sisko is right that somebody is clearly making money off that somewhere...

[Destino]

35 minutes ago, mcsluggo said:

if you are too inept and/or lazy to  monitor your own kids use of the internet at home....  and the thing that worries you is that they will  will see boobs after navigating past 8chan and neonazis and chat rooms with dudes that are basically a trenchcoat filled with spiders... then you are an idiot.

 

If porn were just boobs, this thread wouldn’t be soaked in terror at the idea that hackers could discover what videos they’re watching.  That greater threats exist online is irrelevant.  We have to handle more than one problem at a time and progress is often uneven and disordered.  We can’t stop fighting for paid school lunches because mass shootings exist.  We do both, we fight all the fights, and win where we can.  
 

[The Sisko]

11 hours ago, Destino said:

If porn were just boobs, this thread wouldn’t be soaked in terror at the idea that hackers could discover what videos they’re watching.  That greater threats exist online is irrelevant.  We have to handle more than one problem at a time and progress is often uneven and disordered.  We can’t stop fighting for paid school lunches because mass shootings exist.  We do both, we fight all the fights, and win where we can.  

Clearly McSluggo is the one person in the US, perhaps the world who’s never seen internet porn. There’s a little more than boobies out there. Some of it is rather innocuous, but there’s obviously much, much worse and there’s no way in hell kids should be seeing that stuff.😬

 

In a perfect world, parents would keep their kids away from porn and other internet dreck they won’t be able to unsee. However, I know from personal experience how hard it is, in fact, damn near impossible, to monitor kids and keep them away from stuff they shouldn’t see online. I know we weren’t entirely successful but I think we at least reduced the level of harm. That’s the best we could do and we had the money, time, motivation, and a modicum of computer literacy. Unfortunately most parents don’t have some or all of that, which is why we need something like the EU Digital Services laws, not just for kids, but for everyone. But then as always, we don’t need to emulate those commie Europeans. FREEDOM!! WOOO HOOOO!

[ixcuincle]

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/youngkin-signs-law-requiring-stringent-age-verification-for-porn-sites/article_355606ec-f254-11ed-9413-33aac56e9acb.html

Gov. Glenn Youngkin signed a bill Friday night that requires users to verify they are 18 years old through advanced verification methods to enter pornographic websites.

He said this is in an effort to protect children from being exposed to adult content. Under the bill SB 1515, adult websites must require users to provide government-issued IDs, biometric scans or submit to age verification software.

[purbeast]

Sad that we can do stuff like this to stop children from watching porn, yet we won't do anything to stop them from getting slaughtered in mass shootings.

[ixcuincle]

lol july 1st the sites just pop up like "ARE YOU OVER 18? SUBMIT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND DRIVER'S LICENSE SCAN SO WE CAN VERIFY"

 

whenever some state entity wants to know my PII for "age verification" 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by ixcuincle

[bearrock]

Lol at the idea that this will actually stop kids from getting their hands on porn, but whatever,  don't really care one way or another.

 

But if we are putting porn behind age check, I have a long list of online sites and activities that should be put behind an age check too (from hate speech to defacto gambling that is so prevalent in online gaming today).

[China]

The Porn Patriot

 

This week, a coalition made up of people who make adult entertainment and people who simply enjoy it filed a federal lawsuit to block a Louisiana anti-porn law that requires users to verify their ages through government-issued IDs. Among them is Elizabeth Henson, a 38-year-old military wife who is standing up for her constitutional right to watch porn while her husband is away (and when he’s not, too). Already being hailed as a hero by the feminist website Jezebel, Henson recently relocated from Texas to Louisiana with her husband, who’s in the Coast Guard. As she shared in a declaration accompanying the lawsuit, she got involved in challenging Act 440 (also known as HB 142), which took effect in January, upon discovering that without a Louisiana ID, she couldn’t look at porn in her new state.

 

Hanson spoke to Slate about why she decided to take up the cause of protecting her fellow military spouses’—and everyone’s—access to smut. This interview has been condensed and edited for clarity.

 

Heather Schwedel: Could you tell me how you first found out about Act 440 (and its related legislation)?

 

Elizabeth Henson: It was less than a week ago. Basically, my husband went back to his prior unit to close out on our other house. We’re still in the process of moving. But I’m now here in Louisiana permanently. So I went online to try to use porn and ran into the block on the website telling me that I had to use LA Wallet [an app that porn sites use to verify users’ ages using their state IDs].

 

I downloaded LA Wallet and started messing around with it, but I soon realized, “Oh, this only works with a Louisiana license.” But I’ll never have one of those. So I texted some friends, and I was like, “What is up with this?” They were like, “Oh, yeah, that’s a thing here.”

 

You’re not going to get a Louisiana ID because you’re planning on keeping your Texas one, right?

 

There are laws that allow military service members and their spouses not to have to switch our legal residency every time we move because that would be a financial burden, not to mention annoying. But it does mean I will never have a Louisiana license, so I literally can’t comply with the law even though I live here.

 

How long have you and your husband been together?

 

We have been married about four-and-a-half years. We met when we were both on active duty and we were stationed in the same city. I’m a veteran now, and he’s still active.

 

What is his schedule like? Are you two sometimes apart for long stretches?

 

It’s pretty variable depending on what’s happening with the Coast Guard. Right now, in his current role, he’s around all the time (though we’ve been apart on and off for the last two months while we move). But during times like, say, a hurricane, he gets deployed to provide support. Sometimes, the Coast Guard has ships that go out for three months.

 

What makes porn an important part of your relationship?

 

For one, you can use it kind of like a date night, like you would movies, right? When it’s been a hot minute, you need that sort of intimacy. It’s a way to bring that back into the relationship despite the distance from one another. Being able to share that intimate moment can really be satisfying. It’s good for your mental health and for keeping that part of your marriage alive.

 

I know lots of people, both active-duty military and military spouses, who use porn, and I don’t think I’m uncommon. I’m not the only military spouse that gets separated from her spouse. Imagine being out at sea for three months … pornography helps, let’s just put it that way. You’re alone, they’re alone, everybody needs to blow off some steam. There are also some people who get stationed in, say, Bahrain, and they’re gone for a whole year. People in the Army and the Navy have their own deployment times, often for months or years at a time. Porn honestly makes a big difference.

 

How do you think being able to have that intimacy impacts morale and mood for people in the armed forces, or just for couples in general?

 

I don’t know about anybody else, but at least for me, that intimacy is an integral part of the human experience. Just being able to connect with other human beings matters. It’s just important whether that’s sexual or not. That connection is just so important to well-being and mental health.

 

Click on the link for the fuil interview

[ixcuincle]

About 5 days until this goes into effect. Not much known on how they will implement this or if all my beloved frequented sites will just pop up verification the second July 1st passes. The kicker is that nobody is going to be that guy that repeals a porn law, so even when Youngkin leaves office the successor will probably keep this **** around.

 

Who is campaigning to make porn more accessible to people? It's not a good campaign slogan.

 

It's like Japan and why porn is still censored there. The rules are archaic (and introduced by Americans!) but nobody wants to be that legislator that opposed depixelation !

[Captain Wiggles]

1 hour ago, ixcuincle said:

It's like Japan and why porn is still censored there. The rules are archaic (and introduced by Americans!) but nobody wants to be that legislator that opposed depixelation !

 

One of the reasons Japanese porn is so bizarre is because of them censor laws. 🤷‍♂️

 

I'd totally run for office on a Make Porn Great Again campaign. 

[dunfer]

Kids access to so much info, images and video is not a good thing. I remember me and my friends watching movies on cable when our parents werent home just because within that 2hour window some boobs were shown. If I had access to pornhub when i was 11....you wonder why some kids are ****ed up nowadays

[spjunkies]

Just now, dunfer said:

Kids access to so much info, images and video is not a good thing. I remember me and my friends watching movies on cable when our parents werent home just because within that 2hour window some boobs were shown. If I had access to pornhub when i was 11....you wonder why some kids are ****ed up nowadays

 

Kids will find it one way or another. I remember trying to watch scrambled Spice and Adam & Eve when I was that age. There's no going back now, the best thing going forward is to educate and hope they understand what sex is.

 

You can only hide reality for so long. 

[Captain Wiggles]

Porn bad. Guns good. Classic conservative bull****. Let me know when porns the number one killer of children in the US. 🤪