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Fox8: Watching porn now requires age verification in Louisiana because of new law. Adult sites pull out (😏) of Virginia due to new law.


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Would you give your ID to a porn site?  

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  1. 1. Would you give your ID to a porn site?

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The porn industry has been around for a while and in today’s digital age business is booming. When Laurie Schlegel isn’t seeing her patients who struggle with sex addiction, she’s at the Louisiana State Capitol. 

 

The Republican state representative from Metairie passed HB 142 earlier this year requiring age verification for any website that contains 33.3% or more pornographic material. 

 

“Pornography is destroying our children and they’re getting unlimited access to it on the internet and so if the pornography companies aren’t going to be responsible, I thought we need to go ahead and hold them accountable,” said Schlegel. 

 

According to Schlegel, websites would verify someone’s age in collaboration with LA Wallet. So, if you plan on using these sites in the future, you may want to download the app.

 

“I would say so,” said Sara Kelley, project manager with Envoc. “I mean, I think it’s a must-have for anyone who has a Louisiana state ID or driver’s license.”

https://www.fox8live.com/2022/12/28/watching-porn-now-requires-age-verification-la-because-new-law

 

 

DVDs and magazines about to make a comeback in Louisiana

 

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It's pretty easy to get around with VPNs.

 

I'm nervous of the notion porn sites and or the government can now directly link individuals to the porn they watch, even couples porn.

 

Only a matter of time until that blows up in like the worst way imaginable for anyone actually doing it.  For that alone, the idea of scaling it up doesn't sound realistic at all.

 

Piracy is the natural reaction to any scaling up of this type identification process.

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46 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

There absolutely must be a way of keeping children from accessing porn. Don't think this is the way to do it, though. I thought they used to do age verification with credit/debit cards?

 

 

We verify ages to drink, gamble, buy insurance, enter strip clubs, buy cigars, rent cars, and for a very long while to buy porn.  Suddenly it’s a bridge too far?  Makes me wonder just how ****ed up the porn is people are watching that they need to make absolutely sure it’s never tied to them.  
 

I’m not sure this is the solution, but there must be a way.  I don’t just mean that it must be possible, but also that it must be done.  We’ve been terribly irresponsible for long enough.  We can have our fun without raising kids on smut.

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Detailed age verification is dumb. The whole "By checking this box I indicate I am over 18" should suffice. If adults want to see men [REDACTED] women up the [REDACTED], as is their natural right when they turn 18, why should they have to verify?

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1 hour ago, Renegade7 said:

It's pretty easy to get around with VPNs.

 

I'm nervous of the notion porn sites and or the government can now directly link individuals to the porn they watch, even couples porn.

 

Only a matter of time until that blows up in like the worst way imaginable for anyone actually doing it.  For that alone, the idea of scaling it up doesn't sound realistic at all.

 

Piracy is the natural reaction to any scaling up of this type identification process.


Not to mention the notion of porn sites gaining personally identifiable information on every customer. 

15 minutes ago, Destino said:

We verify ages to drink, gamble, buy insurance, enter strip clubs, buy cigars, rent cars, and for a very long while to buy porn.  Suddenly it’s a bridge too far?  Makes me wonder just how ****ed up the porn is people are watching that they need to make absolutely sure it’s never tied to them.  


How many of those places give the state knowledge of what your buying, and give the merchant permission to retain your data?  

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26 minutes ago, Larry said:


How many of those places give the state knowledge of what your buying, and give the merchant permission to retain your data?  


I buy my liquor from a state ABC store, does that qualify?  Also, is this law even doing that?  I’ve yet to see a breakdown of what data is retained and who gets its, or even what third party providers are handling it and how.  
 

Are we saying that it’s impossible to consider anything but continuing a status quo in which virtually every child in the US has unlimited access to porn?

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39 minutes ago, Larry said:


Not to mention the notion of porn sites gaining personally identifiable information on every customer. 


How many of those places give the state knowledge of what your buying, and give the merchant permission to retain your data?  

 

5 minutes ago, Destino said:


I buy my liquor from a state ABC store, does that qualify?  Also, is this law even doing that?  I’ve yet to see a breakdown of what data is retained and who gets its, or even what third party providers are handling it and how.  
 

Are we saying that it’s impossible to consider anything but continuing a status quo in which virtually every child in the US has unlimited access to porn?

 

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Kelley added there are other ways websites could ask you to verify your age if you cannot access LA Wallet. She added that although some personal information will be required, companies must not retain personal data after complete verification.

 

“It doesn’t identify your date of birth, it doesn’t identify who you are, where you live, what part of the state you’re in, or any information from your device or from your actual ID. It just returns that age to say that yes, this person is old enough to be allowed to go in,” explained Kelley.

 

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1 hour ago, Destino said:

 

We verify ages to drink, gamble, buy insurance, enter strip clubs, buy cigars, rent cars, and for a very long while to buy porn.  Suddenly it’s a bridge too far?  Makes me wonder just how ****ed up the porn is people are watching that they need to make absolutely sure it’s never tied to them.  
 

I’m not sure this is the solution, but there must be a way.  I don’t just mean that it must be possible, but also that it must be done.  We’ve been terribly irresponsible for long enough.  We can have our fun without raising kids on smut.

 

Like I said, it used to be done with a credit/debit card...didn't get charged (or you got charged like one cents) but the financial institution your card is connected to already verified your info, including your age.

 

Also, drinking, gambling, strip clubs, rent cars are all done in person. Showing your ID while you're still holding it and having one person check your D.O.B. is less risky than transmitting a copy of your drivers license online and having it in electronic form and accessible to pretty much anyone who wants it. I've had my passwords and indentity stolen several times in the past, and it wasn't from showing my ID to the bouncer at the strip club lol...

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1 hour ago, Destino said:

 

We verify ages to drink, gamble, buy insurance, enter strip clubs, buy cigars, rent cars, and for a very long while to buy porn.  Suddenly it’s a bridge too far?  Makes me wonder just how ****ed up the porn is people are watching that they need to make absolutely sure it’s never tied to them.  
 

I’m not sure this is the solution, but there must be a way.  I don’t just mean that it must be possible, but also that it must be done.  We’ve been terribly irresponsible for long enough.  We can have our fun without raising kids on smut.

 

Times are different now, anything done on the internet can be assimilated into these digital profiled that are being created on us by these tech companies and data warehouses.

 

For many people this could impact, it's the fact of looking at porn period, not what kind of porn.  And entities that collect this data don't do any better a job protecting it then the medical matters their algorithms infer on us and can also be legally purchased.

 

This is part of a larger data privacy failure in this country more then anything else.  If people want to take compromise on validating age for online porn, look at GPDR in Europe in regards to our overall online data to tack this conversation onto.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

Also, drinking, gambling, strip clubs, rent cars are all done in person. Showing your ID while you're still holding it and having one person check your D.O.B. is less risky than transmitting a copy of your drivers license online and having it in electronic form and accessible to pretty much anyone who wants it. I've had my passwords and indentity stolen several times in the past, and it wasn't from showing my ID to the bouncer at the strip club lol...

 

The private clubs in NC scan your ID into their computers and store them for their membership records. They're required to by the state in order to operate as a private club. There usta be consent forms you'd need to sign as well. Sposidly all of that was in the process of being repealed. Idk tho as I haven't really been frequenting many establishments since Covid.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said:

 

The private clubs in NC scan your ID into their computers and store them for their membership records. They're required to by the state in order to operate as a private club. There usta be consent forms you'd need to sign as well. Sposidly all of that was in the process of being repealed. Idk tho as I haven't really been frequenting many establishments since Covid.

 

 

Well, damn lol...it's been a long while since I've been in a strip club (and never been in one in NC) but when I did last attend the age verification was the door guy looked you over real quick and then asked for ID if you looked like you might be under 20 😂

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21 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

 

Times are different now, anything done on the internet can be assimilated into these digital profiled that are being created in us by these tech companies and data warehouses.

 

Do you think internet activity isn’t already included in these digital profiles?  Everyone accessing adult material on their phones for example… that device tracks everything.  Your search history is the least of it, and there’s no easy reliable way to know which apps are doing the same thing and which companies are buying that information.  
 

privacy is a memory at this stage.  

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17 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

Well, damn lol...it's been a long while since I've been in a strip club (and never been in one in NC) but when I did last attend the age verification was the door guy looked you over real quick and then asked for ID if you looked like you might be under 20 😂

 

I moved to New Orleans when I was 18. Not many places checked IDs then and this was just after they raised the drinking age back to 21. 

 

First strip club I went to was Big Daddys on Bourbon Street. Nobody checked IDs and there was a sheriff's deputy standing at the end of the bar. I sat at the stage n ordered a drink. 🤣

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10 minutes ago, Destino said:

 

Do you think internet activity isn’t already included in these digital profiles?  Everyone accessing adult material on their phones for example… that device tracks everything.  Your search history is the least of it, and there’s no easy reliable way to know which apps are doing the same thing and which companies are buying that information.  
 

 

Using your device to look at porn is not the same as directly tying your unique identification information like drivers license # directly to what porn you look at specificly and when.  

 

Using applications like Tor make it much harder for this inference, especially Tor-based browsers that already have default settings regarding history clearing and limiting to outright eliminating cookie functionality.

 

Some people have no idea what I'm talking about here and are arrogant enough to look at kiddie porn from their work computers and think theyll get away with it.  

 

10 minutes ago, Destino said:

privacy is a memory at this stage.  

 

That doesn't make it right, and I know this because Europe didn't accept this the way so many in our country already have.

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