CT: Increasingly under fire as potential health hazards, gas stoves could be banned in 2023, top federal official says: ‘It’s a real possibility’

[skinsmarydu]

^^^ and got some version of "doxxed" over a stove argument 

[TradeTheBeal!]

Pretty thin line from anti-vax to actively consuming lead.

[Corcaigh]

There are a couple of facts here:

 

(1) cooking over open fires in the home leads to very bad health outcomes. 
 

(2) There is a small amount of pollution from

gas appliances that is essentially eliminated by proper ventilation.

 

Here is the first statement on the California Air Resources Board page on the subject 

 

Cooking can contaminate the indoor air with harmful pollutants, but range hoods can effectively remove them.

 

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/documents/indoor-air-pollution-cooking

 

 

Edited January 13, 2023 by Corcaigh

[Xameil]

This whole argument just proves that you can make any stupid issue political.

 

I swear some of these "Top Scientists" are all sitting in a room and joking around with what absurd issue can we bring up to start a political outrage. 

 

The open flame issue is not new. I think it was about 10 years ago, the same aegument was being brought up over charcoal.

 

You ****ing people just need to be outraged over something. Its like both sides are the "causeheads"

 

Lets see who gets that reference

[The Evil Genius]

I mean.. who doesn't feel for the 1% who overwhelmingly own the market share of gas stoves in the US? Elite coastal people have needs too..

[Xameil]

9 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

I mean.. who doesn't feel for the 1% who overwhelmingly own the market share of gas stoves in the US? Elite coastal people have needs too..

Well, i dont care either way. But....as i said this is nothing new

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/is-grilling-with-charcoal-or-other-heat-sources-carcinogenic#13

 

Theyve been going after open flame cooking for years

[The Evil Genius]

[The Evil Genius]

 

[Bang]

So now they want science?

Seriously, they should just announce liberals are planning to ban drinking battery acid and let these idiots poison themselves.

 

~Burp

[LD0506]

Own them libs!

 

[China]

@mistertim

 

How Gas Stoves Became the Latest Right-Wing Cause in the Culture Wars

 

A suggestion that U.S. regulators could consider banning gas stoves has sparked right-wing opposition and memes.

 

There’s a new political firestorm lighting up Washington, and it has nothing to do with inflation or the new congressional leadership. Instead, all eyes are on gas stoves.

 

The common kitchen appliance was thrust into the spotlight this week after a Democratic member of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), an agency charged with protecting the public from dangerous household products, told Bloomberg News gas stoves could potentially be banned due to their health hazards. The conversation triggered a sharp rebuke from the oil and gas industry, but also many Republicans who used the issue to push back against what they say is Democrats’ overzealous environmental regulation.

 

The agency clarified on Wednesday that there is no plan to ban gas stoves in the near future and that it is only “researching gas emissions” and “exploring new ways to address any health risks.” But that didn’t stop conservatives from pushing a narrative—sometimes joking, sometimes not—that federal agents are going to come into your home and rip out your gas range.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

 

[LD0506]

[Cooked Crack]

This is supposed to be in favor of gas stoves?

[Bang]

That steak looks *GASP* terrible.

 

~Bleah

[China]

9 minutes ago, Bang said:

That steak looks *GASP* terrible.

 

~Bleah

 

Steak?  Oh, is that what it is?  Looks like shoe leather to me.

[PleaseBlitz]

I thought it was refried beans. Lol. 

[China]

The forgotten gas stove wars

 

Forty years ago, the federal government seemed to be on the brink of regulating the gas stove. Everything was on the table, from an outright ban to a modification of the Clean Air Act to address indoor air pollution. Congress held indoor air quality hearings in 1983, and the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) were both investigating the effects of gas appliances.

 

Backed into a corner, the industry that profits from selling consumers natural gas for their heating and cooking sprang into action. It filed comments to agencies disputing the science. It funded its own studies and hired consultants to assess the threats it would face from further regulation.

 

To prove that voluntary action was effective and regulation unnecessary, utilities produced their own literature for consumers, like Northern States Power Company’s warning that “Homes Need Fresh Air During the Heating Season.” And it nervously eyed media reports, like Consumer Reports’ conclusion in 1984 that “the evidence so far suggests that emissions from a gas range do pose a risk” and “may make you choose an electric one.”

 

The research on gas stoves’ health effects was “provocative, not conclusive,” concluded a 1984 Energy Bar Association report drawn up by gas industry consultants.

 

Ultimately, the US did not pass new regulations. Instead, natural gas became even more embedded in American homes and lives, in 2020 supplying fuel to 70 million homes. All the while, scientists continued to warn that gas can produce a range of emissions and pollutants: nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, formaldehyde, hydrogen cyanide, and particulate matter, among others. The methane from gas is a growing contributor to climate change.

 

Now, the US runs the risk of repeating history, and natural gas utilities find themselves in a similar position to the one they were in four decades ago. We have dozens of studies and better quantification of exposures and risks than ever, but the industry, dependent on selling fuel to tens of millions of homes, is reprising an age-old playbook used by any industry that finds itself on the defense over public health.

 

Click on the link for the full article