tshile Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Given the MAGAs propensity to be projectionists, calling for dna and drug tests - makes me wonder 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, EmirOfShmo said: This is some funny ****. There are a lot of stupid ****ing people out there... I love that reporter's reaction after she cut off the interview. Watch it again, the poor woman sounds like an exasperated mom who is trying to keep it together in public while about to go nuclear. I think we've all had enough of maga and Trump. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Applies to politics as well. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 22 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Applies to politics as well. I'm not sure who said it (I frequently see it attributed to Twain, but its never sourced): "It is easier to fool someone than convince them that they've been fooled. For the first you only have to overcome their intellect. For the second you have to overcome their pride." 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I had a family maga ask me recently “You think I’m stupid don’t you?” “Yeah.” Nothing was said in return. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 5 hours ago, Fan since a Fetus said: I had a family maga ask me recently “You think I’m stupid don’t you?” “Yeah.” Nothing was said in return. Whenever someone says that to me (defensively), I always tell them that "Curiosity is a necessity for intelligence and I've asked a lot of questions, but I haven't had the need to ask someone else's opinion of my own intelligence." Edited June 25 by Simmsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 At least one of my cousins in PA is a Trumper. Her father was a Rush Limbaugh fanatic. He even traveled to New York to be in the audience for Limbaugh's show. My aunt taped it and the were so proud to show it to my mom and I when we visited. It was the most disgusting piece of video that I've ever seen. So when I asked her in 2020 who she was going to vote for, she said that she hadn't decided yet. She'll probably vote for Trump again. That's why I'm so glad my parents moved to Northern Virginia so I learned to think for myself, and learned about politics early on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I thought he was jacked up Joe? Make up your mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) Arizona election worker arrested after allegedly stealing security fob for voting tabulator in Maricopa County https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/24/politics/arizona-election-worker-arrested-maricopa-county I guess this is what Lara Trump meant when she said they'd be watching the vote counting...by engaging in their own fraud. Edited June 25 by BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Trump grew the national debt about twice as much as Biden, study says Donald Trump is the self-proclaimed “King of Debt.” That extended to the national debt during his time as president — and is poised to continue in a possible second term. A new analysis released Monday by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) found that Trump approved $8.4 trillion worth of new 10-year borrowing during his full term. Excluding funding tied to COVID-19 pandemic relief, namely the CARES Act, he still approved a whopping $4.8 trillion in debt. The bulk of that impact — just over three-quarters — came from bipartisan legislation, according to the budget watchdog. Besides the CARES Act, the biggest contributors to the national debt were Trump’s tax cuts and the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2018 and 2019, which suspended the federal debt limit for two years and lifted spending caps by $320 billion. His rival, President Joe Biden, hasn’t been shy about adding to the national debt either. In total, the incumbent added $4.3 trillion to the debt over the first three years and five months of his presidency, including relief tied to the pandemic. But after taking out the impact of the American Rescue Plan (ARP), his total contribution falls to $2.2 trillion, or less than half what Trump added. Just 29% of Biden’s contributions to the net 10-year debt came from bipartisan legislation, such as the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, primarily because of Republican opposition to the ARP. Click on the link for the full article 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I have to give the (legit) media some credit, they're really jumping on this "Trump might drop out" idea that is going around. I've seen several news outlets basically call him out as a **** brained loser if he does, but Fox News is already building him several exit ramps. Two more days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, Simmsy said: I have to give the (legit) media some credit, they're really jumping on this "Trump might drop out" idea that is going around. I've seen several news outlets basically call him out as a **** brained loser if he does, but Fox News is already building him several exit ramps. Two more days. Now when he doesn't drop out, how will this alter your perception of the "legit" media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 10 minutes ago, Jabbyrwock said: Now when he doesn't drop out, how will this alter your perception of the "legit" media? I think the words "might" and "if" play important roles in his post. Not to mention, past actions and current comments would lead most reasonable people to think Trump dropping out is definitely a possibility. Can't really blame news outlets for talking about what that would mean. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 10 minutes ago, Jabbyrwock said: Now when he doesn't drop out, how will this alter your perception of the "legit" media? It doesn't, my problem is with everyone else. Trump dropping out isn't just some pipe dream that is being speculated, him and his team have given legitimate concerns with their words and actions about debating. I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but compared to other candidates this is unheard of and It should be reported. Let's not act like Trump bailing at the last second is out of his character. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Trump when asked about banning contraception: “We’re looking at that, and I’m going to have a policy on that very shortly and I think it’s something that you’ll find interesting...I’m coming out within a week or so with a very comprehensive policy.” That was 5 weeks ago. Has anyone read his very comprehensive policy? And if so, did you find it interesting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 43 minutes ago, Jabbyrwock said: Now when he doesn't drop out, how will this alter your perception of the "legit" media? Why would it? it seems the point is to set the stage so that if he does drop out he’s mocked and ridiculed, so that he doesn’t drop out ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jabbyrwock Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 55 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: I think the words "might" and "if" play important roles in his post. Not to mention, past actions and current comments would lead most reasonable people to think Trump dropping out is definitely a possibility. Can't really blame news outlets for talking about what that would mean. 51 minutes ago, Simmsy said: It doesn't, my problem is with everyone else. Trump dropping out isn't just some pipe dream that is being speculated, him and his team have given legitimate concerns with their words and actions about debating. I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but compared to other candidates this is unheard of and It should be reported. Let's not act like Trump bailing at the last second is out of his character. 22 minutes ago, tshile said: Why would it? it seems the point is to set the stage so that if he does drop out he’s mocked and ridiculed, so that he doesn’t drop out ? Well I guess I have my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 5 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Followup question to every one of those quotes: "Do you feel the same way about Donald Trump?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 If or when Trump drops out, I hope Biden shows up and answers questions. Show the world that a real president doesn’t back down and isn’t spineless 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 49 minutes ago, Jabbyrwock said: Well I guess I have my answer. I don’t expect it to do or mean anything but it seems (to me) they’re trying to get ahead of him dropping out Trump sets narratives and runs with the one that makes sense (to him) in the moment. He’s been laying the groundwork to drop out. Just like he’s laying the groundwork to explain why he looks awful in the debate. it’s slightly refreshing to see an effort by someone to get ahead of it - not sure it’ll matter though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) In some cases, Trump attended a debate. In others, he bailed. He didn't participate in any Republican party debates this election cycle. He dropped out of one of the debates against Biden in 2020 because it was remote. So he's not a lock on going to any this time. The fact that they are turning the mics off when it's not their turn and immediately after their turn to speak he's not going to like. So he might go to this one and pass on any others. Edited June 25 by LadySkinsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 5 hours ago, Jabbyrwock said: Well I guess I have my answer. Well, to be fair, I was posting on my phone (which I hate) when I was supposed to be working and I feel that I didn't explain myself as clearly as I should have. Please, let me try again: The first mention I heard of Trump dropping out of the debate was from Fox News, telling Trump he should back out. We all know that Fox has red telephone access to Donald Trump and directly effect his actions. It goes both ways, (Trump speaks and they try to spin his nonsense into silk). After Fox started saying it, Trump and his staff started saying it and thats when I started to think it could happen. I've heard many different hypothetical, yet crazy, outcomes that could also happen. Trump is unpredictable, anything can happen. I don't think any modern president has ever said they were going to drop out of a debate, Trump has said it and done it. So, I'm not saying you have to agree with me, I'm just saying that my feelings aren't unfounded. I honestly don't know what Trump is going to do, but he hasn't instilled much faith in many people that he will go thru with this. I think he set the expectations to low for Biden and now the Trump campaign realizes they won't win this debate and backing out might be a better look than Trump getting demolished on live TV by Sleepy Joe again. I don't want the MSM to report that Trump IS going to drop out, we don't know that. I want them to report on what he is saying about dropping out and why. If a presidential candidate is so unworthy, cowardly and inept that he can't handle a debate, something that EVERY candidate in the last 60 years has been able to show up for, the public deserves to know. The bonus is getting ahead of Trump if he does drop out so he can't control the narrative, I'm seeing more and more coverage of this on MSM when it was mostly independent news channels on YouTube. Also (pure speculation), I'm now hearing that Trump has not done a single late night event since the 8pm CNN town hall over a year ago (not sure how true that is). Word on the street is he doesn't have the juice to stay up that late, a "Dimed Up Donny" might make an appearance as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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